[M][N] A Simple Game of Mafia - Page 3

On December 14 2017 04:20 Oatsmaster wrote:

I don't think koshi or ve is mafia, they are just trying extremely hard to look town.
Which isnt a tell one way or another.

On December 14 2017 04:53 Koshi wrote:
I am playing Heroes. Also voting Palmar I think.
It's not that I don't believe in the Oats lynch. He is a fine lynch.

On December 14 2017 00:44 Palmar wrote:
The case is this:

As I was reading the back and forth and trash talking between conversion, hf, koshi etc, I started wondering "right, so some of them may be mafia, but they all care. If I am mafia, I let this happen but still feel the need to post". So I started thinking about people I remember posting, but don't remember if they said anything of value. I 100% admit that the first person I could think of filling the description of my supposed mafia was forumite. So I decided to read his filter, and that is when I said he's 99% mafia.

The strong theme in forumite's filter is that he says stuff that mostly is just there to be around. It's not particularly investigative or contentious, but it is there. I'm gonna give a bunch of examples:

I already had noticed this post:



the reason it's scummy is because he specifically announces it's not his 1st pick. So any illusion of it actually being a pressure vote or whatever else bullshit you can think of is already shattered. It's completely pointless. In fact, he even apologizes for making this vote when I call him out on it.



Right, you can in theory argue that all this, and every post up to this in his filter is just trolling. The rest of his early filter are mostly random shitty questions with some tiny mechanics or role discussion thrown in. Like while I'm editing this a bit for effect, below is literally everything Forumite contributed to the game early on.












None of this is actually valid scum hunting. None of this seems designed to lead anywhere. There is no follow up, no thread. Just random shitty questions. I kinda remembered this yesterday, so this post here:



which is just a continuation of the same bullshit really struck me.

He continues to sort of mull over the conversion thing which is actually the first thing he kinda follows up on, but again the tone seems super mild and overly diplomatic:

Why, for example, does he repeatedly ask people to explain the case on Conversion or says he doesn't follow it. It's super clear (I think I quoted koshi's point about conversion and called it good yesterday). This is just a result of forumite either not reading the thread, or just posting shit so he can talk about stuff while pretending to know nothing about it so it's not suspicious that he's actually not contributing anything to the discussion at hand.

He does end up making a call on Conversion's alignment, while still inviting more discussion on it without actually pushing his own alternatives all that much.

To summarize, it's the mindset in forumite's posting that makes him mafia:

1) He asks questions with no intention to follow up or investigate the answers.
2) He makes alignment calls with no intention of using that information to move the game in a different direction

It's a rather good case.

On December 14 2017 05:04 Conversion wrote:
I didn't ask you to give me more reasons to called you tunneled as fuck onto me, I asked you to tell me who my scummates were if I flip scum and who is scum team if I flip town

On December 14 2017 04:57 darthfoley wrote:




So I somehow became "way more likely" to flip mafia than Koshi without posting anything between the times of these two posts, after saying "df looking better" than Koshi.

That is some really scummy fucking shit. Also the push back off of Conversion and the fact that Conversion never got more than 3 votes is sus as shit

On December 14 2017 05:12 Conversion wrote:
I'm not going to split hairs with you because you can't read apparently.

my big post was stated to be: "If I believe DF/Koshi are town because x," not "DF/Koshi ARE town because X"

then I said if I get lynched today, there is a chance that there is a mafia between you and Koshi. and if there is a mafia between you and Koshi, I see Koshi being more mafia than you. then I thought about it more as Koshi posted and you were at work, and thought eh maybe now in my head DF is more mafia than Koshi in this hypothetical situation

for someone so eager to call people's posts garbage, your reading comprehension lacks. by a lot. like an almsot laughable amount

On December 14 2017 05:19 Conversion wrote:


it was a possibility case that I was spilling to the thread to get feedback. to paint me as scum because I apparently called you two scum at that point is just dumb because that's not what I was saying in my post

On December 14 2017 05:21 Koshi wrote:
darthfoley is a lost boy

On December 14 2017 05:24 Arya321 wrote:
I sort of here I trying to do a take home test atm but I don't think Koshi made that many game excuses as scum but it been a long time.
@DF I know you are tunneled atm but imagine if Conversion is town in your world: Who would be scum?

On December 14 2017 05:08 darthfoley wrote:


You're dodging an obvious logical inconsistency in your posts. There actually can't really be a logical progression because I did not post at all between those two posts, but your opinion went from Town: DF >> Koshi to Scum: DF >>>>>>>> Koshi

If you flip scum, i'll look at anyone who tried to divert lynch to Oats or had shit reasons to join Oats wagon. Koshi is also not out of the realm of possibility to be your partner. HF less likely.

If you flip town, I think there's probably some white-knighting from someone. I actually think HF is more likely to be town than Koshi.

On December 14 2017 05:27 Arya321 wrote:

So nothing changed from that post? Okay....

On December 14 2017 05:28 Holyflare wrote:
Ls you aren't the slightest bit concerned at the oats wagon forming this quickly yet every other game you play and this happens you say something. What gives?

On December 14 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:
Koshi is town. Mafia was lynched D1.
That's how we roll.

Now. I still stick to my 4 names.

But why were you so mad df? I just don't understand. You are obvious town. But still so angry.



I said a million times I am fine with this lynch because we are lynching the 3 people I think are mafia.




Kinda knew it seeing Oats awake so late :D

On December 14 2017 05:38 Conversion wrote:
I am also happy you, DF, and Koshi failed. and whoever else