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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:16 GMT
#3255
I don't even care if there was a 4-4-4 situation (although the fact that there wasn't speaks for itself too). The fact is, even if there were, Jealous didn't do shit at the time he claims there were a 4-4-4 situation. He did something at the time it doesn't matter a single bit who he votes for. Now he is trying to make it look like there is some super townie reason why he did that, by lying. When the truth is his vote didn't matter shit, and if he is mafia he knows that, and there is no reason why he wouldn't do that as mafia.

It is so simple. At first i didn't think it makes him mafia, i was only arguing it doesn't make him town, but the way he went on and on and on with a simple fucking thing is in fact scummy. It is called completely exaggerating to a situation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:21 GMT
#3260
Yes, it was. He has now given three different reasons why he did what he did.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:24 GMT
#3262
On August 22 2017 05:20 CopCake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 05:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even care if there was a 4-4-4 situation (although the fact that there wasn't speaks for itself too). The fact is, even if there were, Jealous didn't do shit at the time he claims there were a 4-4-4 situation. He did something at the time it doesn't matter a single bit who he votes for. Now he is trying to make it look like there is some super townie reason why he did that, by lying. When the truth is his vote didn't matter shit, and if he is mafia he knows that, and there is no reason why he wouldn't do that as mafia.

It is so simple. At first i didn't think it makes him mafia, i was only arguing it doesn't make him town, but the way he went on and on and on with a simple fucking thing is in fact scummy. It is called completely exaggerating to a situation.


But he didnt alone that, Ritoki thinks the same and HF

They never think that it could be mafiajelaous trying to win HF or mafiajelaous giving prize mafiaHF

Seems like you're not understanding the point here.
The point is, HF and ritoky can misremember, because they were not in that situation.
Jealous is trying to explain why HE DID WHAT HE DID, and he said:
Jealous: Idid that because of X
rayn: that can't be right. or if it is why A
Jealous: A is incorrect because actually i did it because of Y
rayn: why are you changing your story?
other people: well the situation wasn't even suitable for Y
Jealous: Yeah i did it because of Z
rayn: .................

Do you seriously think Jealous DOESNT REMEMBER, TWICE, why he did vote for someone in this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:38 GMT
#3284
(1)
On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
I think both HF and CopCake can be either or; HF for being either tryhard scum trying to eliminate rayn, or tryhard town trying to eliminate rayn. At least HF does things, posts reads, and interacts with people. CopCake is getting a power-up for doing practically nothing but defend rayn and cry. It's like rolling dice.

"i think i am best suitable to get the powerup" (because there is at least a chance the other two are mafia -- basic logic)

(2)
You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again?

I tried shenanigans when i realized the vote is 4-4-4 (this must be a lie because it doesn't fit the voting thread timeline, and completely different from what he actually did during D1)

(3)
I admit I made a mistake, after ritoky ' s post saying it was 4-4-4 I thought to myself "that sounds about right, it was close and then someone had gone off of me so I realized shennanies might be afoot" so while the number might be off by 1 in either direction, the motivation was the same: don't let Cop get the PR.

"I don't mind if Holyflare gets the power up, as long as Cake doesn't" (does this go along with what he said before? no it doesn't. does this go along with #1? no it doesn't. does this go along that his vote switch means something? no it doesn't.)

If this is the truth why didn't he say it in the first place? Not on D1, and not earlier. When someone points out inconsistancies in his story, the whole story changes. "]I admit I made a mistake". I don't believe that. If a townie makes a mistake he doesn't argue with some completely different reasons for pages, and call the other part of the argument sarcasitaclly stupid. Townies want to be as clear as possible.

I think he just made up a story. Got called out, made up another story (this is when i questioned him in "why would you do that as town then if you think HF and Cake have a chance to be mafia). Got called out again, and changed the other story again.

That's it, i can't find any other explanation.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:40 GMT
#3288
On August 22 2017 05:33 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn has pushed the dumbest shit all game and the only thing that makes him town is the mod confirmation.

fuck you. seriously just fuck you.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:53 GMT
#3320
On August 22 2017 05:42 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 05:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
(1)
On August 16 2017 05:29 Jealous wrote:
I think both HF and CopCake can be either or; HF for being either tryhard scum trying to eliminate rayn, or tryhard town trying to eliminate rayn. At least HF does things, posts reads, and interacts with people. CopCake is getting a power-up for doing practically nothing but defend rayn and cry. It's like rolling dice.

"i think i am best suitable to get the powerup" (because there is at least a chance the other two are mafia -- basic logic)

(2)
You're right, shenanigans never happen in TL Mafia games, what was I thinking trying to put up a safety net like that. Definitely more likely that I'm scum who just didn't bother to gain votes when it was 4/4/4. Just had to make sure that my scumbuddy got the PR and not me because... wait... HF, explain that one to me again?

I tried shenanigans when i realized the vote is 4-4-4 (this must be a lie because it doesn't fit the voting thread timeline, and completely different from what he actually did during D1)

(3)
I admit I made a mistake, after ritoky ' s post saying it was 4-4-4 I thought to myself "that sounds about right, it was close and then someone had gone off of me so I realized shennanies might be afoot" so while the number might be off by 1 in either direction, the motivation was the same: don't let Cop get the PR.

"I don't mind if Holyflare gets the power up, as long as Cake doesn't" (does this go along with what he said before? no it doesn't. does this go along with #1? no it doesn't. does this go along that his vote switch means something? no it doesn't.)

If this is the truth why didn't he say it in the first place? Not on D1, and not earlier. When someone points out inconsistancies in his story, the whole story changes. "]I admit I made a mistake". I don't believe that. If a townie makes a mistake he doesn't argue with some completely different reasons for pages, and call the other part of the argument sarcasitaclly stupid. Townies want to be as clear as possible.

I think he just made up a story. Got called out, made up another story (this is when i questioned him in "why would you do that as town then if you think HF and Cake have a chance to be mafia). Got called out again, and changed the other story again.

That's it, i can't find any other explanation.


This is a completely bull shit narrative. Jealous originally says he's the best because he knows his alignment, that's fine.

There is nothing wrong with that. He thinks you and Cake can be EITHER OR!!!! He sarcastically said "so i just didn't bother to gather votes to myself as scum". That's what i questioned him for, if he doesn't necessarily think you or Cake are town, why WOULDNT HE BOTHER DO THAT AS TOWN???? (that was his first "this is why you should town read me). It's completely stupid.

At deadline tw made a copcake town case, Ritoky had just returned and voted copcake, you voted copcake. It looked like bull shit was going to happen. Jealous does the smart thing and realises copcake is a bad vote and hf has pushed smart things and he votes me.

I am not arguing against that. I am arguing, whatever he does at that point, if he is mafia, doesn't matter. Because it literally doesn't. Can you understand the simple fact that where ever Jealous votes when he votes, IT DOESNT MATTER!!! Unless ofc there is another mafia person who is NOT on you and they want to "shennie" onto someone who is NOT you. That's the only scenario where it matters, otherwise it doesn't fucking matter at all. It's a win-win situation because the expectation, 1 minute before the deadline is, that you will get the power up. He either "looks good", or someone who is not mafia does something stupid, and everyone can blame them and he still "looks good".

It's easy to remember in your mind that votes were close and if someone says 4-4-4 you remember it's close then I imagine it's really easy to assume they did basic fact checking to come up with that. It's an easy mistake to make.

No it isn't. It isn't if you are in the situation yourself. And that's not the point. The point is that even if there was a 4-4-4 situation, Jealous' vote change didn't come EVEN FUCKING close to the assumed 4-4-4. It came at the last second when he very well knew what the vote count was because there is a votecount in the voting thread right above it......... Who the fuck even cares if there was a 4-4-4 vote situation 3 hours before the deadline when he votes at the last second?????
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:54 GMT
#3323
On August 22 2017 05:47 CopCake wrote:
Rayn talk to me, ignore Geript and HF for the moment :/

no, i am gonna get drunk and fuck off this bullshit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:54 GMT
#3325
##vote disformation
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 20:54 GMT
#3326
On August 22 2017 05:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2017 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not the only one reading rayn's jealous push as shit right?

It's shit

youre shit
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 21:01 GMT
#3337
On August 22 2017 05:56 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn your narrative is poor. He saw an influx of copcake votes, said wtf is this bull shit and voted to secure me as power up holder. Even in your twisting narrative what you say doesn't make him mafia.

I think it's still towny.

If that was true why does he have to make it so fucking hard to explain it? I don't believe anyone does that as town.

Now i am actually gone. I don't have anything to do today in this game, and i don't care. I am placing my bets on geript being town and that means my vote is settled. I wish you were mafia but unfortunately you're probably not. Have fun next day.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 21 2017 22:32 GMT
#3409
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 00:00 GMT
#3410
wow geript claimed scum
it's geript/holyflare/ritoky
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 00:00 GMT
#3411
lol HF did that after all
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 00:05 GMT
#3412
Koshi even believes it, just too bad to commit. Sorry no Will Smith
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 00:25 GMT
#3414
It's okay noone listens to me anyways, let HF tell how mafia geript is and see wonders.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 00:26 GMT
#3415
bed time, i am better at scumhunting drunk than i am sober.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 09:21 GMT
#3439
Holyflare, the next game we play together i will do the same thing Jealous did to me and we can then see how you will react. After your reaction i will call you a hypocrite.

My case was literally the best case in this game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 09:24 GMT
#3442
Nah, he lied about his motivation for something, i called him out for it.
He called me scum for calling out his bs and later on conceded that it was actually bs.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 09:25 GMT
#3444
Yeah maybe you don't see it because i understand it is hard to follow the argument but that's how it went.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 22 2017 09:26 GMT
#3445
It's kinda alarming that the only person who realized this is ritoky (idk, Conversion maybe too). Even the judges couldn't figure out this is not how townies should act.
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