On August 18 2017 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cake why do you say if you had to lynch someone you would lynch ritoky but Damdred is your top scumread?
Because Damdred is more dangerous.
You said that at the start of the game, in the first 24 hours. First you say if you had to lynch someone, it would be ritoky. Then, after 3 hours you say your top scumread was Damdred. You said this:
You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.
On August 18 2017 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cake why do you say if you had to lynch someone you would lynch ritoky but Damdred is your top scumread?
Because Damdred is more dangerous.
You said that at the start of the game, in the first 24 hours. First you say if you had to lynch someone, it would be ritoky. Then, after 3 hours you say your top scumread was Damdred. You said this:
You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.
I said Damred was the mafia more likely.
Where did this lying happen inbetween?
Ok this is the timeline
- Cakes believes Ritoki is mafia for his overeacting of clock- - Cakes wants to lynch Ritoki - - Cakes finds later Damdred is more mafia - - Ritoki questions Cake why he wants to lynch him - - Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki -
The lying is that I forgot I posted I want to lynch Ritoki, I calmed down on him because MAYBE I was overeacting fornthe clock thing but even if I forgot I posted that doesnt mean I had quit To think that Ritoki is mafia.
You posted you wanted to lynch ritoky before you said "Damdred was more mafia" so this cannot be true. What was the reasoning you found Damdred mafia for? You can't say "Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki" when ORIGINALLY you said "if i had to lynch someone now it would be ritoky".
On August 18 2017 02:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: Cake why do you say if you had to lynch someone you would lynch ritoky but Damdred is your top scumread?
Because Damdred is more dangerous.
You said that at the start of the game, in the first 24 hours. First you say if you had to lynch someone, it would be ritoky. Then, after 3 hours you say your top scumread was Damdred. You said this:
You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.
I said Damred was the mafia more likely.
Where did this lying happen inbetween?
Ok this is the timeline
- Cakes believes Ritoki is mafia for his overeacting of clock- - Cakes wants to lynch Ritoki - - Cakes finds later Damdred is more mafia - - Ritoki questions Cake why he wants to lynch him - - Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki -
The lying is that I forgot I posted I want to lynch Ritoki, I calmed down on him because MAYBE I was overeacting fornthe clock thing but even if I forgot I posted that doesnt mean I had quit To think that Ritoki is mafia.
You posted you wanted to lynch ritoky before you said "Damdred was more mafia" so this cannot be true. What was the reasoning you found Damdred mafia for? You can't say "Cake then says he found Damdred more scummy but now wants to lynch Ritoki" when ORIGINALLY you said "if i had to lynch someone now it would be ritoky".
The second step of my post says I want to lynch Ritoki, is before i said Damdred is more mafia.
Yes, and i would like to know why you later on said "Damdred is my top scum", which you did.
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote: Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".
It is absurd.
Fucking judge of this thread, not others.
all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...
You weren't my top mafia read but now you are for lying.
I said Damred was the mafia more likely.
That doesn't make any sense. Because your "but now you are" happens AFTER you called ritoky top lynch. you did this: call ritoky your top lynch -> ritoky does stuff (you find scummy) -> you call ritoky NOW your top lynch because the stuff but Damdred was before.
I dont care what you thought yesterday or the day before, i care about what you thought at the time. Because you were basically saying ritoky is mafia because he lied and you knew he lied before he did lie, if your posts at the time make any sense.,,,
On August 18 2017 03:34 ritoky wrote: first time i have ever missed a vote. sorry mods, but i did warn you so a little less sorry.
Why didn't you push your Cake case?
Mate just read my filter. It's got a pretty case on how ritoky returned at deadline and forgot his cake read and voted her for top town powers so I didn't get the vest. He literally did mafia tactic 101.
Wait what? You didn't get the vest? Anyways that's not important. But yeah, that's a point, i went to ritoky's filter and had to stop on the Cake thing, i have no idea what he did on her after that, that's why i asked.
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote: If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid
Well first to the vote Thing.
Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).
If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.
If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)
Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.
As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.
I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.
What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote: i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters
On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote: I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.
So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.
Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof
well get me lynched then bro.
i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here
How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote: town cake rit ff
sorta town rayn conv geript jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here 1der damdred hf es rels
So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.
I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.
Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.
Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.
On August 17 2017 09:08 geript wrote: If the next lynch isn't a group of Rels, Ever, TW or pretty close I may just flip a lid
Well first to the vote Thing.
Like if all three are town the switches do not make a real difference, maybe some of the awkward votes (tumble, rels etc.).
If hopeless is scum I think they got pretty lucky dodging his lynch but the save of tw of him would be equally juicy. Like if this is the case it is a lot more interesting with how the vote swing really the last minute. But if hopeless is sick I think it becomes less likely that read is scum just because of him helping out hopeless near the top and fivi ng him the chance of being lynched.
If Ryan is sick I think the game is stupid and things are worse than I thought. (Unlikely)
Ritoky not voting is interesting, but I don't thinknthatbis alignment indicative atm.
As for your pool I don't think ever should be in quite yet. But maybe soon depending on what she does.
I don't care about the power vote thing because I'm probably dead. Sure, Ever can be replaced in that pool. But I'd be replacing Ever with Cop or you, but overall we have the least to work with between Rels/Ever and I want to be able to lynch into them and I want to keep pressure on them to play. I don't think the value of having you up for lynch right now is there. I don't think Cop will magically or mystically get better/make sense/be towny by being up for lynch. It's super egregious that she was even in the top 3 on D1.
What I care about is this:
On August 17 2017 05:05 Tumblewood wrote: i don't remember why i thought ff was town. but i think he is. so i'm gonna put my vote on 1der for now and speed read both their filters
On August 17 2017 05:08 Tumblewood wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
On August 15 2017 07:38 Hopeless1der wrote: I mean that largely comes down to: have a larger filter than I do, because my filters are usually garbage tier.
So you take a list of everyone in the game available to be lynched and call them town or scum based on filter size.
Do you think that counts as being helpful? To me it looks a lot like you are forcing yourself to make a reads post which makes me read you scummy based just on your list and the explanation thereof
well get me lynched then bro.
i like this post. i like ff's posts more but i like this post. there is probably not a right answer here
How in the fuck does TW go from, "Oh man, I think I remember FF was town but idk why so I'll vote for Hopeless" to "Man FF's posts are good and there's only this one Hopeless post I like" in the course of 3 fucking minutes. How on earth does a Town!TW read and analyze FF's admittedly shorter filter in 3 minutes while also reading Hopeless not at all short filter? It's literally the picture of not caring about who to lynch between Hopeless and FF. It's literally picking up one little thing as an excuse. Afterwards you get this:
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote: town cake rit ff
sorta town rayn conv geript jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here 1der damdred hf es rels
So clearly, he has some reason for why he dislikes Hopeless' posts. A reason which I will remind you that he did not have previously in his posting. It's not like there aren't reasons he can find to have both Hopeless and FF be town and paranoia lynch Rayn. It's not like he stands up to HF making the lynch between Hopeless and FF or goes super tin foil theory. It's not like he makes a (imo reasonable argument) to ignore OGI and just lynch Rayn because he's the scummiest for what he's done.
I just want the judges to actually fucking read what I post and listen to me.
Quoting this because it shouldn't be forgotten. HF's last post is important too. But this is big.
Noone cares about Tumblewood at the time. He has been asked to clear the shit on him and it's up to him so no need to talk about him.
On August 18 2017 02:18 Tumblewood wrote: updated list
town 1der cake rit rayn conv
don't think he's mafia but u can never be sure hf
the mafia should all be in here jealous geript es damdred rels
can you explain your cake and geript read? I'm curious.
i think i already explained my cake read, but the short version is some of her reads are so illogical and her reactions to attacks are so righteous that i don't think she could fake it as mafia. i previously thought geript was kinda town for the angle shooting thing ritoky pointed out, but i haven't noticed geript at all since, so it would make sense that he could be the mafia i'm missing. i definitely need to read his filter again though, i haven't read it in quite a while.
Lol. Clearly I am completely unnoticable
i didn't say i had a good read on you. but if you don't establish yourself as very likely town you go to the PoE pool. that's pretty much how it works.
Clearly he's "caught up." Yet he flat out ignores a huge ass case on him? He flat out tries to say I'm scummy yet has nothing to call me scum for? His townreads are shit.
Of course it's important to bring back up because I'm not going to let him slide a rock solid case under the rug.
Sorry i mean atm. I don't know who thinks he is town.
On August 15 2017 00:56 Holyflare wrote: This post was directed toward Tumblewood. Now Tumblewood is hard defending rayn effectively because he for some reason magics up that town rayn can be passive if he wants???
i'm not hard defending rayn. rayn is null at best for me. i'm just arguing against an attack on what i don't think is grounds for an attack. ta da
On August 15 2017 07:51 Tumblewood wrote: i think 1der is town for his response to this
On August 16 2017 01:35 Tumblewood wrote: thanks euros for the 20 pages while i was sleeping i read half of them and i think cake is the clearest town. i'm also moving 1der into weak town. i appreciate rayn but i'm waffling on him hard. not necessarily defending himself in a townie or scummy way, just very actively. damdred seems like town, but that said i don't know if i've ever played with scum!damdred.
On August 17 2017 05:16 Tumblewood wrote: town cake rit ff
sorta town rayn conv geript jealous
at least 2/3 mafia are in here 1der damdred hf es rels
Hopeless is town, then weak town. Rayn is null then waffle hard because reasons. I don't see any mention of ff from you at all other than an "oh i thought he's towny".
Somehow rayn isn't your vote. Why?
did you notice that ***two days and rayn's mini-blowup passed*** between the posts you quoted
Also you spend your time making a town case on copcake, why? Why do you spend all your time on that but run out of time to look at the 3 people up for lynch and somehow read hopeless in 3 minutes?
i spent my time ***before the lynch pool was announced*** casing my strongest townread because i did not trust the other two as much. and then when i knew who we could even lynch into you announced that you were shooting rayn and so i left for a bit, and then when i came back (admittedly much too close to deadline) i realized rayn wasn't going to die anyway so i speed-read ff's and 1der's filters and came to the conclusion that ff was highly likely town and 1der was less likely town.
I think he means you don't imply your read on me changes between there anywhere.
On August 18 2017 03:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: -> ritoky is top scum -> ritoky lies -> "i thought damdred is most likely mafia but you lied so now you are"
That is not how happened and even in my post said it <_< "Damred was more scum but because you lied HERE now you are more scum"
Is this so hard to understand or do I need to use apples with you?
On August 15 2017 02:45 CopCake wrote: If I have to lynch someone I think I would lynch Ritoki
On August 15 2017 03:41 CopCake wrote: Btw "breaking" "bending" rules is not town aligment tell, like honestlt I can perfectly mimic myself having a badass plan and shit and people would be like "Oh my god that is so meta town cake".
It is absurd.
Fucking judge of this thread, not others.
all my life people told me i use stupid metrics to make reads. all my life i been more right than wrong. even if it is dumb, your top mafia read is about a drawing of a clock....so...
Tumblewood, noone is accusing you of your poe. It is because you said hopeless is something and then, after your 3 minute filter drive you place him onto some completely different place. And if you are town noone knows why.
On August 18 2017 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Tumblewood, noone is accusing you of your poe. It is because you said hopeless is something and then, after your 3 minute filter drive you place him onto some completely different place. And if you are town noone knows why.
pls he was in weak town during early d1. and then much later i restructured my reads to be PoE, and some people had looked townier in that period and some people who had not. i upgraded the people i was now quite confident were town to "town", and the 1der read from earlier did not hold much water later, so i downgraded 1der to PoE.
Why didn't you say that then? The only thing you said was "he made this townie post" and "i don't think there is a right answer here". But he still was in your poe scum and not in null or any upper.
EPT
