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Vote Count - Day 1
Koshi (5): Holyflare, disformation, beentheredonethat, Vivax, annul, ruXxar, Vivax
ruXxar (3): Fecalfeast, Xatalos, Vivax
Xatalos (3): darthfoley, Koshi, Skynx
raynpelikoneet (1): Xatalos, sicklucker, Tumblewood
marvellosity (1): Koshi, Tumblewood
sicklucker (1): Palmar
Palmar (0): Koshi, Skynx
beentheredonethat (0): Koshi
Eversince (0): sicklucker
Not voted (8): Rels, Damdred, VayneAuthority, raynpelikoneet, AMG, marvellosity, Grackaroni, Eversince
Half the Sky is getting ready to throw Koshi out of her whiskey bar.
Day 1 ends in at 23:00 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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Is this some sick joke? I am still on 5.
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That's what you get for ignoring me.
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On June 16 2017 01:05 ruXxar wrote:
Tumbleweed just climbed up on my scum list.
Things are getting clearer now.
Tumblewood is not mafia because he wrote a weird townlist.
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On June 16 2017 00:04 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote marvellosity
What is this irrelevant vote?
You just want to be seen as not being on the wagon when we lynch a town?
This vote looks too much like posturing for a good endgame vote filter.
Place your vote somewhere it matters or explain why we should all hop in the marv wagon.
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I can't be online much until EOD today.. I think I'll be online like 1-2 hours before the deadline and then just have to sleep. Anyways, here are my main reads so far (some people have posted nothing / barely anything so they've been basically ignored in my memory, who knows, would be dice rolling on them).
1) ruxxar: Has a decent amount of posts, but mostly they've been red flags or questionable at best. No spirit of scumhunting so far, just random comments with unbelievable reasoning (like "strong first post!" -> "I didn't like the content, it was just townily unpolished" - ask yourself, does this sound like an excuse thought after the fact of posting a random comment or a genuine thought process? how is it "strong" if it's townily bad?, very, very meh).
2) rayn: Can still easily be scum. He's a very sneaky scum, and I'm still quite confused by his Koshi commentary. Hope he'll explain that soon(TM).
3) annul: I'd have expected so much more after hearing about his reputation (although it seems to be years ago). There's just nothing to write home about in his filter. Nothing extremely scummy, but just no scumhunting, pushing the thread forward or anything. More like reluctant sideline commentary on some things he picked to comment about, things he could easily do as scum and should've done more than that as town.
4) Koshi: Not really sold on him being our best lynch. There was just nothing that I saw screamed "lynch now!", only slightly concerning points in a large amount of activity. TBH some of the discussions on Koshi have went over my head too as I've been reading the game very lacklusterly from my phone etc. In any case, when someone referenced the Koshi case to me earlier it didn't really cause me to want to vote for him.
4) FF: I'd say town. I just had a pleasant feeling reading his posts since the start, felt like he posted what he actually wanted to say and it made sense.
5) HF: Probably town too. Even if he exaggerates a bit in his cases, he's pushing the game forward and doing stuff all the time. Apparently it's also been his intention to generate discussion with stronger than usual pushes. Just feels more like a town game plan to hyper push and focus the attention on himself and his surroundings. As scum there would be easier targets for that than Koshi or rayn or Vivax etc. too, if the intention was to get people mislynched.
6) Vivax: I think what I liked about him earlier was his meta read on me. It felt honest rather than trying to just curry my favor or alternatively spread suspicion on me. Well, I may be biased  Vivax, my main problem with you when I read you sometime today was this post:
On June 15 2017 06:26 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 06:24 Holyflare wrote:
Dunno why everyone hates ever, she's right that it's fucking awful koshi town reads me for a shit fight that in his opinion doesn't make sense. That's my scum meta 101. Yeah why would you hate someone who parrots your misreps of rayn like gospel?
...because, even if you called him out on misrepresenting things, that's one of the more blatant misrepresentations in the game in itself. Ever did not in fact ever "parrot" HF. He just referenced the case on rayn when asked, even though he clearly said he disagreed with it. That's far from parroting, it's the opposite.
That's still bothering me. Not sure if it means scum or town Vivax yet though, I think it's not possible to come from either.
7) Eversince: unrelated to that, he is somewhat lackluster. Not fair to say he's "parroting" or "not having original thoughts" though. Clearly that's false. There are original thoughts in his filter, there's just so little of any content there. Conclusion: ???
Rest: no strong opinions one way or another. This might change if I had time to read their filters, but now I'll have to go for some time.
So yeah, ruxxar/annul seem like our best bets today overall.
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On June 16 2017 01:17 annul wrote:
like isnt it interesting that 2/3 of the people who think i am red are the ones i directly called out before they post their red reads onto me
No it really really isn't.
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Actually I can still be online for 20-30min. AMA
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Actually I can't. Cya guys
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On June 16 2017 02:04 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 04:08 Koshi wrote:
I am obvious town and you can't fucking read me HF. How shit are you then? Just because I didn't open like I used to and now you are fucking reading everything as biased as fuck in some wicked way to proof you can read somebody after 1 sentence while you are so fucking blind it is really hilarious tbh.
This is the thing why I don't buy Koshi's "rage" by the way. Like, when you start a big sentence, people will remember the first and the last thing you said and not the whole rest. The structure used here is "I am obvious town", then blabla reasons "just because", followed up by "you're so fucking blind it's hilarious". Koshi shouldn't put emphasis on WHAT he is. He will always claim town, as anyone would, regardless of actual alignment. But instead, he yells "I AM TOWN", puts the reasoning (which is the IMPORTANT part) right between two seemingly emotional statements I have caught Koshi already as scum D1 and I'm fairly confident here. When I skimmed this morning he looked better but I just skimmed. so, yeah. my vote is good where it's at.
lol
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On June 15 2017 22:09 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 21:21 Vivax wrote:
Do you have any opinion on Eversince, darth? Your argument with HF has gone over my head and it's been clogging up the thread so my only read comes from a quick read of her(?) filter. All the filter is is early defending of rayn against a wagon on him, then moderating HF v. Koshi. I have no idea what Eversince believes of the other 19 players in the game. She feels super disconnected from the thread.
She's on the scummier side, but also perfect example of potential lynch bait. I'm still more comfortable with other people D1 lynch because her filter doesn't feel like she's pushing any sort of agenda tbh
Bold-1: Do you think that it is not alignment indicative in this case? She claimed to have read the entire game when she first started to post, so can't say that it's not trying.
Bold -2: What would you expect the agenda to look like? It can mean different things for different people.
On June 15 2017 22:10 darthfoley wrote:
Also to build off what Skynx/disfo said, why is everyone letting Palmar actively not play the game without putting any pressure on him?
I'd give him a day of holiday within the game for what we did to him in Generic .
Also it's well within his town play to play like that.
On June 15 2017 22:11 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2017 21:30 Vivax wrote:On June 15 2017 09:58 Tumblewood wrote:
##vote raynpelikoneet This vote is so bad that I'm going to TR the tumble for NEI. Updated town list: annul, Koshi ( - points for hipster reads on ES and Ruxx), Damdred, FF, Grack (hedging on this), Vayne (for no other reason that he called eversinces post scummy and it seemed genuine), skynx, btdt ( - points for still being on kosh) Newcomers: TW, rayn , Rels. Koshi I'm not too satisfied with you explaining everything away on ruxx and ES from a town point of view. And if you want Xatalos we need to start getting finding stuff. I already commented on him just sucking up to HF when he tried to sell him that I was posting scummy things (would spew HF town if Xata is mafia actually). Won't be at home for most of this afternoon and evening. Why are you TRing btdt but not me when we basically have the same reads?
For the way he went after Koshi and felt so compelled to spell out the reason for going after Koshi.
And for tone. He seemed very engaged, that's how I'd put it.
I don't judge in everyone if he has the same reads as me either, sometimes I do when I know I'm thinking the same as someone else.
On June 14 2017 21:09 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On June 14 2017 21:07 Holyflare wrote:
Also, nobody is accusing you of being mafia and not having reads. You just are 3P and don't care about them to the same extent to dive and call someone mafia. Waitwaitwait I'm not locked on Koshi being 3p, I'm not sheeping you I think he can very well be scum
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@ Xata
the parroting thing stroke me as more negative than maybe it stroke you cause I fought the notion that rayn defended Koshi from the start just like he did afterwards in his big post.
She used the same words HF used and I believe that when people just take wrong representations from other players at face value and reproduce it in their posts , then they might be mafia.
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Its bothering me that everyone is content sitting on koshi, and no second wagons have been started.
If koshi is really mafia, then he and his buddies are doing a bad job of deflecting onto another common target.
It doesn't feel right.
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something in ryans filter made me think he might be town. since i voted him for reactions I thought id owe it to him to look
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damn i gotta figure out who to vote koshi i hope your filters scummy i wanna vote you
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On June 16 2017 02:28 sicklucker wrote:
something in ryans filter made me think he might be town. since i voted him for reactions I thought id owe it to him to look
who and what?
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its a little disturbing that hf is pushing koshi tho and has 0 votes. thats pretty much what a scum hf would do
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It's a tough decision for me, but tbh I rather wanna vote out tumblewood.
##vote tumblewood
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Koshi still suspect, but he's been contributing way more.
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ya but its more fun to kill active people. im only on page 2 of his filter. heres hoping its bad the rest of the way
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EPT
