EPT##Vote raynpelikoneet
Get smart or die.
[N] TL Mafia LXXV - Page 5
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##Vote raynpelikoneet Get smart or die. | ||
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On June 20 2017 16:37 disformation wrote: i really didnt like rels spending his time near eod throwing shade in my direction. like he was knowing i was not gonna get shot. though i as scum would have waited until after the day post. wish he spend that time looking for scum. though obv biased. will reread grack and rels once more later and decide then. maybe ill just vote rels to have a second wagon. That never happened. I don't think you're scum. | ||
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On June 20 2017 16:47 ruXxar wrote: I'm curious too see who's gonna push for a second train. I have a feeling rels might try to get something going on some low profile towns people. Maybe rayn like he was alluding to yesterday. Why ? + you know who I have a feeling is scum, I had a list yesterday. Gotta read filters to see if I stand by them or not but you know where my mind is right now | ||
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On June 20 2017 16:50 disformation wrote: @lazyhand: in the nsm game that ended yesterday you had a fairly big filter, that was pretty town. this game i feel like you stopped playing at a certain point and just started trolling. also from the nsm: this game: this is kinda the feeling I had reading BH filter yesterday. Not exactly this, that's a good find, but the fact that he didn't push the game forward with all his BTDT posts. | ||
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On June 20 2017 16:50 ruXxar wrote: Good morning ^^. Have you changed your mind about lynching grack? nope. Why do you vote him ? | ||
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* call me scum and don't vote me * tells me to vote him I wanna scumread him | ||
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I loled IRL reading your exchange with FF | ||
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On June 20 2017 17:14 disformation wrote: aight. well. does the realization that chezitwo replaced marv change your read on him? also would like some reasons for those reads. yep, he's back to total null. I had this huge feeling that he had TMI defending marv like that, but it turns out that since he's his replacement he has TMI on his slot. p: Rest are feelings I had catching up, will see if they hold when I read filters during my lunch break. | ||
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On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: No Rels, you don't get to do this. First of all, your post on Eversince. There is a reason you started with this line: I do not care you later figured out you were wrong in this conclusion. It doesn't matter. It matters that your original conclusion is completely illogical and there is always a reason you posted it in the first place, because that's what people do, even if they don't think things through. So i am trying to figure out why you originally came to this conclusion. Here's what i can think of: 1) You fucked up because you know Eversince's alignment (mafia) and made a bad judgement call of what people do think about the post. 2) You fucked up because you know Eversince's alignment (town) and because TMI you came to "correct conclusion". 3) You originally posted that as town because ????? Now you haven't explained why (3) ? Obviously you're gonna claim that's the case regardless of your alignment. Saying "i corrected myself later" doesn't cut it because i don't care about it. I care about what was your original thought process, why did you originally think it makes Eversince town, because as i said, there IS a reason why you originally posted what you did. I have explained 3. It's literally the part you erased after the part you quoted. I didn't "figure out I was wrong in this conclusion", I just thought it was less strong than I initially thought. I still think it's a small town indicator. On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Secondly there is this disformation thing. The fact is all about this game is what mafia would or wouldn't likely do. You are literally trying to discredit my read JUST by saying "you can't assume what mafia would/wouldn't do". That's fucking retarded since that's literally what this game is about, and nothing else, since by your logic any alignment can post anything they ever want and you can never figure out anything based on what people say/do. Basically, i don't care if you disagree with my conclusion, you are allowed to do that. But you're not really doing that, you're saying i am mafia because of me coming to a perfectly logical conclusion. That's pretty fucking fishy Rels, and i happen to know you do these shit cases on me as mafia, it happens on almost every game you're mafia in. I don't fucking know how to explain this in words that other people can understand, and why what Rels says is super duper dumb and incorrect, but please read it with thought. There is nothing unsmart in what i said. There is everything unsmart and wrong in what Rels says here. Yep I didn't expect you to make that conclusion as town. Literally my first thought reading the red check + disfo's reaction was thinking about if it made disfo town or not. And it does not. And that you can't see it is bothering me. And why are you talking to me, but in the middle switching to talking to others ? On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now let's believe Rels is town and actually believes in what he says on what i talked about above. Then there is this thing: This is a post Eversince made. Since you, Rels, are so against the line of thinking "what would mafia most likely do" why aren't you interested at all in this post?? It doesn't make any sense since she made a fucking post that is literally filled with nothing but "this is what i think mafia is doing". Why do you treat Eversince differently than you treat me when i approach the game from the same perspective? Here's another one: This is my early read on Fecalfeast. This is me saying "i think if Fecalfeast is mafia he most likely would have reacted differently to df's opening". Again this is the same thing. Funnily enough this is in the pretty much ONLY post i had made when Rels called me town!!! So i really really have to ask, why does Rels treat me differently than he treats me when i approach the game from same perspective than i do???? This whole stuff above is insane also because you can go to any game i have played ever and this is always how i form my reads. Rels not only fails to realize i am doing what i always do as town, but also even treats myself in a different manner when it comes to different people. I hold you to a much higher standard than ES. Your FF meta read has nothing to do with your disfo-is-not-partner-with-Xata read. And the fact that you're accusing me so much instead of probing me is bothering me. As town you're asking questions and laying traps. On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Then there is the Chezitwo read. Rels literally said Chezitwo is mafia because of what marv has done some other time. The he backpedals from the read with: You really couldn't "figure this out" earlier??? REALLY?!?!? And you're fucking calling me unsmart.... Your point ? On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: And then there is the annnul vote thing. I don't literally care what annul said about his Xatalos vote. I care about the fact that it is factually incorrect a vote on Xatalos will most likely get him to vote for sicklucker, regardless of what annul thinks. And by that, it makes your conclusion (and vote) extremely stupid - i am talking about the reasoning here, not that you voted for annul in itself. (I don't really blame anyone for voting for annul just because they voted for him.) Because it is true. Because if annul was mafia and wanted Xatalos to vote for sicklucker you don't fucking play around "blackmailing him", you just vote for sicklucker instead and try to plead to Xatalos. That is what mafia would do most likely. You should be smart enough to realize that. Makes no sense. annul votes Xata. annul makes a post begging Xata to vote SL. I call out that post. That's plain and simple. You're getting complicated with a story that looks pretty but is only one possibility. It is not logical. On June 20 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote Rels Now here's what's gonna happen if you're town Rels: You stop calling me unsmart because if i am unsmart in how i have played and it makes me mafia then you're 100x mafia. If you think i am mafia at least TRY to make a fucking case based on what i have done. You're gonna explain these things. Then you're gonna get onto your level because right now i will need people to work with me and those people i am looking into are you/Palmar/disformation/Chezitwo/Ruxxar. But mostly you and Palmar, and sadly right now i think you're probably mafia and Palmar is not playing. Maybe he will wake up from his weekend hibernation soon. I'm gonna push you until one of us is dead OR you start solving the game instead of just posting weird things and asking pointless questions. | ||
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On June 20 2017 18:50 beentheredonethat wrote: He spent the last 2-3 pages with painting a beautiful "btdt is scum" narrative, culminating in a "NEVER UNVOTE HERE" fake-rage so he doesn't have to end up on Grack. Disagree. On the contrary disfo's angry posts cements my townread on him. I would expect him to be more ironic and mocking as scum when he knows he has much more power than you. | ||
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'cause in the narrative where she's scum with Xata and came to save him EOD1, it's more likely that she was fake AFK and faked entering the thread to save him. That what was said against her. | ||
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On June 20 2017 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: And no Rels, you're the one making no sense here. Annul is making sense. If i have to explain why it makes you super unsmart. lol the ego I'm sorry for calling you unsmart. Now let's continue with the game | ||
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ruxxar I would very much like an answer to this: | ||
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On June 20 2017 19:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I still don't understand this. You basically just went back in circles and said the reasoning is the same you earlier said is not actually a reasoning to call him town for it. Can you explain it in words i can understand? We have concluded she probably didn't fake her entering the thread. But why is misreading/misremembering something a towntell, even slightest? Because i don't see why. 'cause it was a tense EOD, and if I made a big post pushing the balance towards or against her partner she would have remember. Maybe. As said it is not super strong, just an indicator. | ||
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On June 20 2017 19:49 beentheredonethat wrote: I'm on page 11. I have to admit that his N1 looks very good, especially asking the vig shot to be directed towards Xata. However, Xata doesn't die, so either vig didn't shoot or mafia has a protection mechanic or the roleblock got lucky? Hm, speculations. I'd say scum has a protective mechanic looooool never scum. BTDT is never ever scum. This is him solving the game right there. Speculating that the scumteam might have a prot role 'cause it fits with his belief that disfo is scum. I'm never ever voting him. Sry BTDT but I'm not convinced at all by your case. Apart from point 1 which is what annoyed me about disfo at the beginning. But the rest is him being disfo. Doesn't make him scum. | ||
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On June 17 2017 01:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: this post. it is all over the place, starts from nothing and ends up on nothing. idk how to explain it more clearly. On June 17 2017 01:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Meh i am bad... The post doesnt actually explain anything (in how he got where he did), it just repeats what he did... On June 17 2017 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: But Rels has nothing to give us so far. Have you, disformation? Havev you, Eversince? Why, after you realized your reason to scumrad me is wrong, I continue to be a main scumread ? You've played plenty of games with me where I give nothing early. Why the call for me being killed just after ? On June 17 2017 03:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Xatalos is mafia too. Shoot Xatalos, or Rels.. but Xatalos. On June 17 2017 03:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: rels sicklucker xatalos disformation skynx tumble btdt kill into this list and win. | ||
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And HF is killed N1 despite being a likely doc protect. + it might be pretty ironic for me to say that against him. But at EOD1 I doubted my vote hardcore because of some annul posts and almsot switched to Xata. SL might be the best player at reading those situations, but he didn't switch, and didn't even show it made him think. Like, I would have expected him to play at least like he described I did: On June 16 2017 21:15 sicklucker wrote: na rels is alright his logic was good he looked hesitant at the end too + after that I become one of his main target despite being one of his main townread for no reason other than "let's lynch in the annul wagon". I think I wanna lynch SL. What's good too is that if he's town it should become obvious. | ||
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On June 20 2017 20:46 disformation wrote: also explained earlier why not tw today quote ? I'm almost out of time so I can't read his filter now | ||
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On June 15 2017 00:18 Tumblewood wrote: believing the claim requires not realizing that sl just made that up. and if rux or disfo are mafia then they should figure that out because it doesn't reconcile at all with the information that they have. i think there's a corner case of this where they're mafia with eversince, but i figure they are still probably town. and if sl is mafia... idk, at least disfo is kinda scrubby and might take it as a legit fakeclaim this is kinda townie Nothing else stands out of to me as town or scum. The activity is bad ofc though. I want him to play more. | ||
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On June 20 2017 20:58 disformation wrote: really need to learn to play like tw or bh and just give no fucks. i actually think i did a somewhat acceptable job of that this game b4 today. lol if this is fake I'm gonna hate you so much p: | ||
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