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Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:42 GMT
#3099
On June 20 2017 07:40 Rels wrote:
Chezitwo you know marv well ?

The /in was his last post on TL.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:43 GMT
#3101
On June 20 2017 07:42 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 07:40 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 06:43 Palmar wrote:
Rels is evil!

I have no idea, I haven't read much lately.

I saw darthfoley thinks btdt is mafia, that is an interesting development as I've previously mentioned suspecting both of them. I also should catch up on what sicklucker is doing.

Chezitwo is probably mafia because marv not playing is like 99% because he rolled mafia. Sucks, but replacements are always more likely to be mafia, and in this case it's especially prevalent.

So, are you claiming it is normal for marv to completely vanish from TL due to rolling mafia? Because if you are not you don't have a leg to stand on.
On June 20 2017 06:58 Rels wrote:
but Grack showing he remembered a random post from Palmar means it's likely he's either scum with marv, or not scum. Cause him remembering this random post means he read Palmar's filter (so he's town) or this post stucked to him 'cause marv is his partner. Most likely

Since when does reading filters/remembering things make someone town?

means they're trying to solve the game, or faking it. And my experience playing with scum!Grack don't make me think he's the kind of scum to reread a filter he doesn't need to

That's a very low bar you are setting.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:44 GMT
#3103
On June 20 2017 07:43 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 07:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 07:40 Rels wrote:
Chezitwo you know marv well ?

The /in was his last post on TL.

so ? If he was scum he wouldn't post again for that exact reason. Do you know him well or not ?

Well enough. And if you think marv would stop posting on TL for a month because he rolled mafia then I don't know what to tell you.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:47 GMT
#3107
On June 20 2017 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well i gotta read them at my morning coffee but i hope they are there by then. I am falling asleep rn. In case i got shot make sure Rels posts the cases.

Of course. What a horrible reentrance so far.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:49 GMT
#3110
On June 20 2017 07:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 07:44 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 07:43 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 07:42 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 07:40 Rels wrote:
Chezitwo you know marv well ?

The /in was his last post on TL.

so ? If he was scum he wouldn't post again for that exact reason. Do you know him well or not ?

Well enough. And if you think marv would stop posting on TL for a month because he rolled mafia then I don't know what to tell you.

well he ruined a game because he wanted to be replaced and didn't want to play scum. When Arta told him it was not possible he refused to continue playing.

Yes, that happened once. So? Did he stop posting in all the other areas on TL during all of this? I seriously doubt it.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 22:53 GMT
#3114
On June 20 2017 07:51 Rels wrote:
like, I hated one of your post that was about that, but if you're town you're just defending yourself

How insightful.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:05 GMT
#3126
Those kills really aren't very helpful.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:07 GMT
#3128
gg bruv
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:14 GMT
#3139
On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere

He didn't even argue with BTDT. He just needlessly ranted about it way after it happened.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:16 GMT
#3141
On June 20 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job


If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.

can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.

Let's hope for a cop with some juicy checks then.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:21 GMT
#3149
On June 20 2017 08:19 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:14 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:11 Rels wrote:
BH didn't convince me. Spending all this time arguing with BTDT that went nowhere

He didn't even argue with BTDT. He just needlessly ranted about it way after it happened.

whoa whoa

I prefer to think of it as needlessly lecturing about it after the fact, not needlessly ranting about it after the fact. get your facts straight

Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:14 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:11 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
)= fucking doc not doing their job


If Doc didn't save DF last night, I wouldn't count on one existing at all. There's zero chance that was a vigi shot, everyone who even gave the thread a cursory glance liked DF. I can say this, as someone who gave the thread a cursory glance.

can't bitch about the balance without knowing the setup. But we better have some way to overcome that 2 KP / night.


I predict that we will somehow overcome that 2 kp / night starting night 3. if you can guess how you are a winner

At least you are funny.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:24 GMT
#3156
On June 20 2017 08:22 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:12 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't even know why you are talking about this since you don't even think disformation is mafia...

'cause I don't like you thinking that when I don't. It's not logical to think that it makes disfo super likely town on its own. So I thought maybe there was nothing to it I didn't see. But there is not.

Of course it does. If you have followed the thread sentiment at all you would know that the people in this game who needed town credit less than disformation are/were exactly darthfoley. If what you suggested would be true there is no reason to make the "check" on disformation because literally anyone else who is mafia is a better target for that WIFOM than disformation is. Basically noone in the game thought he is mafia other than me. Why does disformation need the town credit (which would be the reason to claim a check on a scumbuddy) over anyone else in the mafia team?

You're thinking about it in a backward way. Xata was SCUM and you can't use a scum actions to prove someone is town just because "it wouldn't make sense that it did that ???".
And wasn't it you that said exactly that in a QT recently ?

No. I have talked about situations where someone makes a case where "this dude is mafia because this flipped mafia guy ignored him all game (or some other crap like called him town for very bad reasons)".

This is completely different because this situation with Xatalos is a mafia plan and when it is a mafia plan then mafia tries to achieve something with it. If the plan was to claim a check on a scumbuddy - then disformation (now 100% knowing df's alignment) the worst fucking person in the mafia team to claim the check on.

That's literally the opposite situation what you are trying to make it look like i am saying. If you can't understand it then you are just stupid for some reason, or intentionally ignoring the obvious.

First, "now 100% knowing df's alignement" is not interesting 'cause you didn't know that at the time.
Second, that don't make sense. You are doing EXACTLY what you said you wouldn't be doing. Actually, not exactly, but in the essense that's what you're doing it. Cause you don't know what is the scum team. You don't know their plan. Maybe they thought disfo was the best dude to fake a check in 'cause he was in no risk to be lynched. Maybe they were just trying to get a counter claim. It doesn't make sense to conclude that disfo is town from that. Cause maybe that was the goal - and that goal, that you said was not reachable, you're ironically reaching it by townreading disfo.

I don't see this argument heading in any useful direction. Rayns logic makes sense.
How about you 2 talk about different stuff instead.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:26 GMT
#3164
On June 20 2017 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:21 disformation wrote:
reading the op is powerful.


you're looking at this in a too surface-level way. pretending not to have read the op, but in a way that only town could have missed (since scum obviously would be aware of their own kp) is an attempt to build towncred via "too little information" (the opposite of TMI, if you would) without actually contributing to scumhunting or taking part in a significant way. In fact, by spreading misinformation or asking for cop claims, one might say it's quite the opposite in terms of actual help.

Are you seriously considering my line as "asking for cop claims"?
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:29 GMT
#3170
On June 20 2017 08:26 Rels wrote:
getting tired so I will stop reading filters. I think Grack is town for the post I quoted earlier + that post where he called out the overall sentiement that scum had to be in annul's wagon. I thought the same thing reading those last pages.
##Vote raynpelikoneet
Get smart or die.

I think accusing someone of not being smart while basically claiming that there is no mafia on the counterwagon to a mafia is a little rich.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:30 GMT
#3174
On June 20 2017 08:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 08:26 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On June 20 2017 08:21 disformation wrote:
reading the op is powerful.


you're looking at this in a too surface-level way. pretending not to have read the op, but in a way that only town could have missed (since scum obviously would be aware of their own kp) is an attempt to build towncred via "too little information" (the opposite of TMI, if you would) without actually contributing to scumhunting or taking part in a significant way. In fact, by spreading misinformation or asking for cop claims, one might say it's quite the opposite in terms of actual help.

Are you seriously considering my line as "asking for cop claims"?

I think cop shouldn't claim today. What do you think?

Pointless question. It obviously depends heavily on the checks.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 19 2017 23:35 GMT
#3181
I am willing to let BH live for a while if he keeps being hilarious.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 09:28 GMT
#3266
On June 20 2017 16:34 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 16:21 disformation wrote:
next meeting in 10 and i desperately need coffee. cu guys later.


So who do you think, grack or rels?
I feel like they are equally bad, but rels is at least trying, and I like that.
Just for that I'm going grack > rels.

Rels short posting spree yesterday was horrible. But for some reason not necessarily scummy horrible. I prefer Grack right now too.
On June 20 2017 16:37 disformation wrote:
i really didnt like rels spending his time near eod throwing shade in my direction. like he was knowing i was not gonna get shot. though i as scum would have waited until after the day post.
wish he spend that time looking for scum.
though obv biased.
will reread grack and rels once more later and decide then.
maybe ill just vote rels to have a second wagon.

He did not throw shade in your direction but he very pointlessly argued with rayn about you. The whole discussion was a total waste of space.
On June 20 2017 16:43 ruXxar wrote:
I just hope we can get the vote trains going early so that we have good enough time to pressure.

I don't want any last hour clown fiesta vote mixup.

On June 20 2017 18:17 ruXxar wrote:
Lynch grack:
Ruxxar
Disformation
Vivax
Darthfoley
FecalFeast
VayneAuthority
Skynx
Rayn
Eversince
Chezitwo
Sicklucker

No opinion on grack:
Palmar
BTDT
Blazinghand

Thinks grack is town:
Tumblewood
Rels


People voting for grack(automatic town pile for today):
Ruxxar
Fefe


Come get your town reads! I ain't cheap, all you have to do is vote for grack.

Alright then, boss.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 09:30 GMT
#3273
On June 20 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
I am pretty sure disformation is scum.

Yes, he's all over the place, activity wise. But what happened so far? Scum killed activity. They killed HF, they killed Koshi, now they killed darthfoley. The Vivax kill doesn't match the pattern so either he was onto something OR they simply couldn't kill disformation because he's part of the team. Vivax townread me and was super eager to kill Grack - but there's not really something about disfo in his filter, boom my theory falls apart lol

They killed activity, yes. But they also killed widely townread people with threadpull and Vivax certainly fits that description.
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 09:32 GMT
#3277
It is quite likely that mafia thinks they can influence disformation much easier than Vivax or darthfoley. Him not being shot is nothing to worry about (no offense).
Chezitwo
Profile Joined January 2015
United States553 Posts
June 20 2017 09:32 GMT
#3278
On June 20 2017 18:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2017 18:30 Chezitwo wrote:
On June 20 2017 18:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
I am pretty sure disformation is scum.

Yes, he's all over the place, activity wise. But what happened so far? Scum killed activity. They killed HF, they killed Koshi, now they killed darthfoley. The Vivax kill doesn't match the pattern so either he was onto something OR they simply couldn't kill disformation because he's part of the team. Vivax townread me and was super eager to kill Grack - but there's not really something about disfo in his filter, boom my theory falls apart lol

They killed activity, yes. But they also killed widely townread people with threadpull and Vivax certainly fits that description.

Vivax had threadpull? His filter says otherwise

No, it doesn't.
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