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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
June 14 2017 14:01 GMT
#421
On June 14 2017 22:56 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:54 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:51 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:47 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:46 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:42 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 22:28 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:21 sicklucker wrote:
alright boys im hard claiming cop with a red check on eversince.


This makes it real simple.
Lynch eversince.
If green, lynch sicklucker.

Guaranteed 1 scum down.


How is this an intelligent plan at all?

#3 to say that
(I think, maybe more)

darth comes on the town pile.



If he's the third person to say it why is he town??


TIL you can only have one person make a claim and one other person agree with the claim before any other people become suspect

So passive aggressive

but for real, my impression is that darth is catching up and quoting and posting where he deems it appropriate. super gut feeling but I think it's town. not only does he think the same about ruxxar as I do, he also doesn't like Xata apparently and I don't like Xata, too


That's a much better explanation though.

The idea is "darthfoley is coming to the same conclusion as I do before knowing my conclusion". I don't know if he is faking the "I'm catching up post by post" thing but I think he's not. Super gut-feeling.


It's only 10AM in Atlanta where I am right now. I went to bed at like page 8 and woke up to 19-20 pages. Yea, I had to catch up. I guess I could do that as either alignment
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 14 2017 14:02 GMT
#422
Also before the question comes up none of them are locked in as pairs or whatever.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 14 2017 14:03 GMT
#423
Though I think aside from btdt weird hf v rayn post I like most of his posts ehhh
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 14:06 GMT
#424
i like df's post about xata.
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 14 2017 14:06 GMT
#425
On June 14 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Hi friends,

I am taking a super simplified approach this game so my posts are not misconstrued.

Rayn is possible scum, his posts lacked the real fire and drive I am use to seeing amd his defense of koshi was bad. His responses to hf were also sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town.

Btdt has me scratching my head currently, on one hand I did like the posts that koshi pointed out. But one post that was basically fear mongering about hf scum capabilities over rayn left me feeling a bit empty and concerned about his game state.

Ruxxar seems to be commenting on things in a hit and miss style while not really engaging in many back and forth(?). If that makes sense. I'd probably not say scum necessarily but I don't like him.

Xata isn't really being inquisitive or post. Also seems to just want to go with the flow, sort of see this coming from scum xata just super boring.

FF, disf are both sorta strong town reads though. Hf is sort of a moderate to low.

Besides that idk what I'm doing

I did not do any fearmongering.
+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +

On June 14 2017 22:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:36 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.


not commenting on B, when B is the most common thing in the thread, is essentially ignoring B.

In order to not achieve levels of irony, I think HF is more likely to be town than rayn atm. Rayn doesn't seem nearly as aggressive or standoff-ish right now. He's basically just defending himself and not really pushing back at HF. Like there's a difference between answering every question you're asked and just saying "fuck you, i'm not answering any more of your shit." I don't sense the passion + Show Spoiler +
or rage
that I usually associate with typical town rayn.

I've liked a few of the inconsistencies HF has pointed out in rayn's play.

Like in a HF vs. Rayn world I'd always lynch HF over rayn simply because of scum capabilities
but right now HF is doing everything and having good points and rayn is not here

So far I like HF's "lets wagon koshi and rayn" thing. Koshi's defense feels lackluster, like he's not interested at all. which matches his initial approach (where he said "*pats HF on the back of his head*").

And rayn didn't react at all.
Both are capable of leading town.
Both don't.

On the contrary. I am saying "HF is a good scummer. But so far, he seems super town. The other two guys with the good town reputation though are not living up to it", which is basically what you say about rayn - "sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town."

Why are you agreeing with HF on Rayn but putting him on a "moderate to low" read? Doesn't make sense. The hf vs rayn because of Koshi thing is basically why you scumread rayn. Why not townread the guy who brought it up initially?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 14:06 GMT
#426
I'm pretty happy with df, btdt, skynx, annul as townreads for the time being.

Damdred kind of going for the hands off approach leaves him at null, I think his latest post would be easy to make as either alignment.

@ Ruxxar

On June 14 2017 22:32 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 16:32 Skynx wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:57 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:38 disformation wrote:
good morning everyone!

omw to work yada yada etc.

agreeing with ruxxar that green colour is best colour.
dont understand why xata is voting rayn.
hf had first post so hes basically conf. town.
might sheep onto hoshi later.
df's "wooohooo" post sounded a bit fake, i conclude he still had a bad mood.

hrre is hoping for a slow day at work.


Strong first post. I like

You like this post? Can you elaborate why or you just felt like posting?

Cuz he agrees that green is good, good shit there.
First post conf town, goos shit there.
Xata and HF both voted in same pattern but he sheeps one but doesn't understand the other??
Comment on DF is fine but he can easily back down from anything that soft so it doesn't really matter.

Very good post here.


It's not the content as much as the tone and structure.
Lighthearted tone with not too much polish/concern.

I'd give that a slight town read.


Do you think that disfo is the only one who fell into that category by that point? I think there's a lot of people you could have applied that to.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 14 2017 14:09 GMT
#427
On June 14 2017 23:00 Damdred wrote:
Hi friends,

I am taking a super simplified approach this game so my posts are not misconstrued.

Rayn is possible scum, his posts lacked the real fire and drive I am use to seeing amd his defense of koshi was bad. His responses to hf were also sort of to tame and accommodating to make me see town.

Btdt has me scratching my head currently, on one hand I did like the posts that koshi pointed out. But one post that was basically fear mongering about hf scum capabilities over rayn left me feeling a bit empty and concerned about his game state.

Ruxxar seems to be commenting on things in a hit and miss style while not really engaging in many back and forth(?). If that makes sense. I'd probably not say scum necessarily but I don't like him.

Xata isn't really being inquisitive or post. Also seems to just want to go with the flow, sort of see this coming from scum xata just super boring.

FF, disf are both sorta strong town reads though. Hf is sort of a moderate to low.

Besides that idk what I'm doing


I am offended, you take that back. I'm null at best.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 14:10 GMT
#428
Does anybody know why sicklucker took Eversince as copcheck example? ( and I know it is fake)
I had a good night of sleep.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
June 14 2017 14:10 GMT
#429
Why didn't you take a stance on koshi, damdred?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 14:12 GMT
#430
On June 14 2017 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody know why sicklucker took Eversince as copcheck example? ( and I know it is fake)


They are twin brothers
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 14:13 GMT
#431
On June 14 2017 23:12 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 23:10 Koshi wrote:
Does anybody know why sicklucker took Eversince as copcheck example? ( and I know it is fake)

They are twin brothers

If that is true I am content
I had a good night of sleep.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 14:14 GMT
#432
uh I thought eversince was of the female variety.
so twin brother would be fairly hard to accomplish
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
June 14 2017 14:14 GMT
#433
also: is your 3p power to tell fake claims from real claims? =D
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 14 2017 14:15 GMT
#434
@HF I have feelings about koshi. I don't think he is mafia, could potentially be third party, possibly town. In either case I don't have anything super strong to say he is town.

I do think if rayn is scum koshi can't be, but I'd rather not be bad and rest on that yet.

@btdt, I still think that first sentence is borderline if not fear mongering. Even if you say all the rest that first sentence gives you enough wiggle room to go back on all of the rest. I don't like it. And as for low on hf, he's burned me enough for me to not be in absolutes.

Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 14 2017 14:19 GMT
#435
That one Koshi post on btdt is pretty good, he can be town for now. Just doesn't fit any mafia agenda, just town trying every corner.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 14:20 GMT
#436
I think that Xatalos is being lazy and trying to have fun at worst, but not scummy btw.

If the meta holds true he will have one of the largest filters and it will more or less look like that. As mafia he posts in a more constructed way.

I'd give him a slight townread for light heartedness even.

Ruxxar on the other hand, don't like how he explained his disfo + 1 away. There's plenty of people he could have townread with that reasoning. So I'd like to know where he'd end up if he tried applying that same heuristic to anyone.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
June 14 2017 14:20 GMT
#437
Well. If everybody enters like Damdred this is going to be interesting. Alas we will not be that lucky.
I had a good night of sleep.
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
June 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#438
Ruxxar, Xata, sl all null for now, yet to see a nice contribution or anything ti.

I like disfo and HF for town right now, they are contributing pretty good.
Koshi might be 3p but he is doing pretty good as well, I'm not lyncing him at any rate.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
June 14 2017 14:23 GMT
#439
On June 14 2017 22:39 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 22:36 darthfoley wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:28 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 21:14 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:55 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 beentheredonethat wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:50 annul wrote:
On June 14 2017 17:53 disformation wrote:
@koshi: if you are SK 1v1 me at night!


soft veteran claim?

blue hunting?


is it really hunting if someone uses a line like that

Why ignore the hf vs. rayn because koshi thing though?

hey annul


who says i am ignoring it? commenting on A does not equal ignoring B.


not commenting on B, when B is the most common thing in the thread, is essentially ignoring B.

In order to not achieve levels of irony, I think HF is more likely to be town than rayn atm. Rayn doesn't seem nearly as aggressive or standoff-ish right now. He's basically just defending himself and not really pushing back at HF. Like there's a difference between answering every question you're asked and just saying "fuck you, i'm not answering any more of your shit." I don't sense the passion + Show Spoiler +
or rage
that I usually associate with typical town rayn.

I've liked a few of the inconsistencies HF has pointed out in rayn's play.

Like in a HF vs. Rayn world I'd always lynch HF over rayn simply because of scum capabilities
but right now HF is doing everything and having good points and rayn is not here

So far I like HF's "lets wagon koshi and rayn" thing. Koshi's defense feels lackluster, like he's not interested at all. which matches his initial approach (where he said "*pats HF on the back of his head*").

And rayn didn't react at all.
Both are capable of leading town.
Both don't.


Damdred do you really think this is fearmongering?

And what would he be fear mongering for when he's siding HF?
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
June 14 2017 14:24 GMT
#440
On June 14 2017 23:15 Damdred wrote:
@HF I have feelings about koshi. I don't think he is mafia, could potentially be third party, possibly town. In either case I don't have anything super strong to say he is town.

I do think if rayn is scum koshi can't be, but I'd rather not be bad and rest on that yet.

@btdt, I still think that first sentence is borderline if not fear mongering. Even if you say all the rest that first sentence gives you enough wiggle room to go back on all of the rest. I don't like it. And as for low on hf, he's burned me enough for me to not be in absolutes.


Yeah I'm pretty sure nobody else has every said that HF's scumgame is good.
Like, you even imply it in the bolded part.
So if you insist on me fearmongering here you'll have to admit that you're doing it too, just in a more subtle way.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
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