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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 09:26 GMT
#224
On June 14 2017 18:11 ruXxar wrote:
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On June 14 2017 16:33 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 15:27 ruXxar wrote:
On June 14 2017 13:40 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 08:04 Fecalfeast wrote:
This deadline is nice for me.

##vote koshi


:/


":/" what?

Why don't you like HF voting koshi?


The deadline is what's killing me.


What about it?


The time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 09:27 GMT
#226
On June 14 2017 18:09 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 14 2017 17:49 Koshi wrote:
Bwaaaaaaaaa. Almost always I make a "first confirmed town post + I add my gameplan"


Yeh so now you didn't make one and no game plan.

3P doesn't have a game plan because they dunno who to side with yet. Aka you are 3p. Aka lynch koshbagmcgoo.


Best case 2017 :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 09:30 GMT
#231
BH opening I see..
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 09:31 GMT
#233
On June 14 2017 18:31 sicklucker wrote:
da hell are you newb


Yes.

+ Show Spoiler +
No.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 09:34 GMT
#238
On June 14 2017 18:32 disformation wrote:
hmmm... cop with a random check at the start of the game?
hmmmmmmmmm... like dunno. cop with a random green check at the start of the game doesnt sound too far fetched imo.

cop with a red at the very start of the game is really nasty for scum. esp. since pre game it was kinda implied that a lot of ppl wanted "weaker" and less swingy power roles.
doesnt help that the check is on someone who has a history of not showing up or afking a bunch.


I think he's doing the BH thing of just making a random post on a random target.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 10:49 GMT
#263
What, are you claiming Koshi?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 11:29 GMT
#278
On June 14 2017 20:22 Koshi wrote:
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On June 14 2017 19:49 Holyflare wrote:
Wow i got him boys.

Rayn comes in with the defence. Totes mafia too.

btw if you type things like this, one might think you are just throwing suspicion around and not solving the game.
You can't call me 3p, and then call rayn mafia with me. I guess you can. But it doesn't make sense.
And I am pretty sure my play will not match mafia meta.


Thanks for the laugh :D It's a good point though. WTF is that argument even

I thought you were claiming Survivor earlier but apparently not.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 11:30 GMT
#280
On June 14 2017 20:24 Holyflare wrote:
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On June 14 2017 20:17 Koshi wrote:
On June 14 2017 20:13 Holyflare wrote:
But I am town though. I'm gonna destroy all anti-towns.

Why am I anti-town?


Started all depressing.

My push made you realise you didn't start with your town meta.

Got cased super hard by yourself and me about not following meta.

You've done nothing to push game forward.

Absolutely no 투혼.

3P/mafia koshi.


Hm, well, that's better than the earlier case.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 11:45 GMT
#297
On June 14 2017 20:35 Holyflare wrote:
Let's get 2 wagons on rayn and koshi. Gogo.


If you're right, I'll worship you as God. So much out of so little :D

I guess I could go for rayn. Should be interesting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 11:54 GMT
#309
On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.


Yeah, rayn is being very lackluster. I don't even know what mind comes up with this post to defend Koshi. At that point, Koshi was only accused of being 3P....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 12:03 GMT
#315
On June 14 2017 20:58 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2017 20:54 Xatalos wrote:
On June 14 2017 19:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:47 Holyflare wrote:
On June 14 2017 18:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have a slight problem with disformation's Koshi "read". I'll elaborate tonight as writing posts on phone is pain in the ass.


The problem is you're bad at reading between the lines. Get on holyformation's level.

The problem lies with the "maybe later" part. Like depending on what Koshi posts after does the scummy(?) part become more or less scummy to him or what?

I dont think what you and him said makes Koshi mafia.


Yeah, rayn is being very lackluster. I don't even know what mind comes up with this post to defend Koshi. At that point, Koshi was only accused of being 3P....


Good sheep, good vote. I'm proud of you.


I'm glad to serve.

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"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 12:17 GMT
#331
Still at work. I'll be online more in the evening I think.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 17:59 GMT
#568
Meh, rayn is still MIA.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:01 GMT
#569
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:06 GMT
#573
On June 15 2017 03:02 Vivax wrote:
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On June 15 2017 02:58 darthfoley wrote:
On June 15 2017 02:31 Vivax wrote:
They both look fairly scummy atm, but Koshi is way more posty while it's really hard to fish something out of Ruxxar. I get the feeling he's in the thread all the time but holds back from posting more on purpose.

That said, I'd switch to Ruxxar with enough followers. But right now the Koshi wagon is big and big wagons are what we need.


Why do you need more people to join a wagon before you commit? There's plenty of time left in today. If you want a ruxxar wagon, make it happen. This looks like useless hedging


Cause five wagons with 2 people each isn't a threat to anyone.

Day 1 is forging a club of townies to smack people with who think they can get away with anything.


Ruxxar seems like a fine lynch to me. There were basically several red flags already in his short filter. I'll elaborate in a bit.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:12 GMT
#574
Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:14 GMT
#576
+ Show Spoiler +
I mean, if 3P, the huge wagon could make sense, but scum Koshi shouldn't have gathered such a huge wagon easily IMO.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:27 GMT
#593
On June 15 2017 03:15 darthfoley wrote:
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On June 15 2017 03:01 Xatalos wrote:
DF: I wasn't the only one who missed Skynx's main point initially. After he explained further, I actually agreed that it looked worse for ruxxar than disfo. So what's the issue?

And I wouldn't really call my filter "filler".


Well I would, which is why I did. My point is that mafia are often looking to misconstrue people's posts and throwing around suspicion.

@ Vivax. It's not that he didn't have reads, it's that he seemed to be ignoring the major event in the thread at the time. It's fine to be not super committed to early D1 reads, but I felt like the "I have no idea what to make of this" was a cop out to people's legit questions about it.


Well, it's just an inaccurate description... Maybe I have some not-so-important posts, but certainly not only those..

Besides, I just don't see what's bad about the Skynx events. Skynx's points on disfo caught my attention more than his underlying point to bring attention to ruxxar, that's all. He was later forced to elaborate and only then did it become clear that ruxxar was where his main focus was (I guess it was possible to notice by reading his original post more carefully, but I digress).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:30 GMT
#597
On June 15 2017 03:16 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2017 03:12 Xatalos wrote:
Btw could someone condense the case on Koshi? I get the fact that he said some 3P-sounding things earlier on, and isn't playing to his town (or scum?) meta... Still the huge wagon makes me wary.

From what I gathered:

His meta is off and he acknowledged that it is off. He stated he will not look like his mafia meta this game. He seems to be fishing for scumreads and openly admits to it in thread.

Annul thinks he(koshi) should have included annul in his list post because he based a read on vivax on a read vivax gave to annul.

He went back and forth on btdt and he isn't pushing the thread forward. He jumped on palmar for no reason.

This is what I remember from other people's posts none of these points are mine.

I personally disagree that claiming to know your own meta is scummy and I think he has made some decent posts and one or two not so decent posts.


Hmmm... Well I guess 3P is plausible given the weird points. Seems like there are better bets though, like ruxxar, or maybe rayn, so the huge wagon seems overkill.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
June 14 2017 18:34 GMT
#599
On June 15 2017 03:17 Fecalfeast wrote:
I forgot rayn was in this game lol what were the points against him?


For rayn, it's mostly just that he's been very lackluster/passive so far. The worst thing that stood out to me was how he just talked about "Koshi not being mafia" though everybody was speculating about Koshi being 3P at that point. It's like he didn't even read what people said about Koshi and made his conclusion anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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