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I'm still a tiny bit undecided but for now my vote is staying on him. I started damdred's filter but got interrupted by work. | ||
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I wish rayn wasn't so bad at mafia, maybe we would've had a better shot. | ||
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On February 28 2017 02:31 Fecalfeast wrote: Fuck it's so hard to give a shit about a lost game when you're scumread by people you think are town... What the fuck are you talking about??? | ||
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On February 28 2017 02:41 Fecalfeast wrote: This post makes me think you were just waiting for me to post before you started pushing me That's clearly untrue. The problem is you're way overstating the suspicion on you and the completely unnecessary gloom. You seem to agree that BM is mafia, so why the fuck do you care if both vivax and I state you might be mafia too? If you are correct that bm is mafia you have plenty of time to change that around. | ||
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let's hope it's not snake eyes | ||
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On February 28 2017 08:01 Vivax wrote: Damdreds filter looks pretty good to me initially and then drops off as his read on FF changes for no perceptible reason and he promises to tryhard but didn't show up so far. I'm mostly looking forward to how he handles things later, but I'm pretty set on lynching one of FF or BM today either way and give Damdred some credit for the early game. If I try to ignore how he scumread me at various opportunities, most of the posts seem also to work down different scenarios and aren't really one dimensional scumreads but instead he also thinks of possible mafia interactions. They look like honest thoughts, especially early on. I am slightly paranoid of Palmar but he's been around pushing things forward first. Maybe BM here is town and the easy way out for mafia, but I'm willing to skip that scenario cause I wouldn't be ashamed to lose to Palmar playing like this. So in summary, I'll stick around and see what Damdred + BM do before deciding who to pick between BM and FF. Honestly, i'm slightly mad that I tryhard super much as mafia and everyone wants to lynch me, but I play like a retard as town and everyone is fine with me. | ||
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Well at least, if people would've actually listened to me on day 1 we would've won. But alas  | ||
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Day 1 I had a gut read on vivax and I tried to push it, but people wanted to lynch SL instead. Day 2 I actually didn't intend to push rayn I was just trolling him with that picture. However his overreaction prompted me to believe the line of reasoning that he was showing inherent guilt. In reality he was just obsessed with me because I'm a hunk of a man. Day 3 I punted Vivax being town, based on both his take on the me/rayn situation and well... he showed up. I literally talked to 2 mafia on the last day. My gut reaction to FF's shit was correct, but I didn't step back far enough to figure it out. I'm mad that I wasted day 2 on arguing with rayn. @rayn you seriously need to stop assuming I play in a certain way or do and act in a certain way. You have the completely wrong idea on the way I play probably based on what I did like 4 years ago when I was way more tryhard. I do a lot of "nonsensical" things just to see what happens. Also, I never fuck around with my reads, not even when I'm playing only semi-seriously, I never actively try to lynch someone I don't think is mafia, unless I specifically say I'm doing it. | ||
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Maybe listen more to damdred, who was correct on TvT and wanted to kill fecalfeast a lot. | ||
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On February 28 2017 19:02 Koshi wrote: Explain to me your Vivax read please? Like... I couldn't see it at all. Still can't. On February 21 2017 01:28 Vivax wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512849-star-wars-rogue-1-hype-mafia?page=8 Palmar town: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 06:07 Rels wrote: yo On August 29 2016 06:25 Palmar wrote: 1st page analysis suggests Rels is 100% mafia. Palmar here: + Show Spoiler + On February 20 2017 12:09 Fecalfeast wrote: hi On February 21 2017 00:37 Palmar wrote: I rolled town so I don't have to do anything I don't expect Palmar to behave exactly the same, but at least similarly to that game. Why so lazy? This is what triggered me to start hammering him on day 1 I think. This is the most bullshit attempt at meta I've ever seen. I have started in a million different ways when playing mafia, and this is just a non-sensical observation. He didn't seem to intend to kill me with that, and he definitely knows that he can't bully me into playing (Vivax has maybe melon sized balls, mine have a gravity well). After that it was mostly due to how meek he was on day 1 with me hammering him. If he was town I'd have expected... idk, more sass? more shit flung back at me? He kinda rolled over and took the abuse. So yeah, he made one bad post and that triggered me to sort of try to force him to give me a tone read based on his response to my attacks. But I concede that a) it wasn't the strongest of scumreads, I just gave out a lot of cheap townreads on day 1 which made me ok with pushing it (damdred, you, malongo all got fairly cheap townreads from me on day 1). and b) it was easier for me than anyone else to figure it out because I was the subject of the post where he made a mistake. Like even if I had no strong scumread on vivax, consider the situation, this very much how I saw the game at the time: On February 22 2017 01:32 Palmar wrote: So game looks like this. Town: Palmar Koshi Malongo Damdred Maybe town sicklucker fecalfeast illegal emigrant BIll Murray scum rayn vivax So with 4 people already in my never lynch category, and sicklucker would later be added to that. With me leaning town on fecalfeast (bad palmar!). I only had 3 options to lynch. 1) rayn, who I thought was mafia, but never actively tried to lynch him because despite him thinking I always work like a machine, I sometimes filter myself. (rayn thinks that if I think he is mafia, I will always go balls to the walls to try to lynch him, the truth is, I might very well, as I did this game, decide to reserve the judgement and get more information from him before making a final decision). 2) BM, who was afk and 3) Vivax... who I thought was mafia, and had not particular reservations lynching. | ||
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On February 23 2017 00:49 Palmar wrote: well think about it. Vivax is a dumbass. That's not gonna change regardless of his alignment, thus him being a dumbass is not relevant to his alignment. He can't just magically become smart when he's mafia or town. This is my top scumhunt quote this game. | ||
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On February 28 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote: Yeah that meta post was so incredible shit that I just ignored it. I thought he was joking or something. Trying to gauge reactions. Meh. Fefe I could have lynched if people helped me, Vivax lynch I was 100% against. 1) because I thought he was townie. 2) I thought you were full of shit. 2) is never true But yes, we all played like retards. Maybe malongo was ok, but even then not great. | ||
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On February 28 2017 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: I didnt play like a retard, neither did koshi or aicklucker. Dont blame other people for what you did. Both of koshi and sl were logically more sound than malongo was, as was i. Truth 100%. you tried to lynch townies on day 1 and 2, and promptly got yourself lynched in the process. Nothing about your logic or play was sound. sl got himself lynched, which makes everything about his logic pointless because the main priority of townies in mafia is don't get lynched. That's not to say I was any better, I tried to lynch townies on days 2 and 3 with more information, and failed to push the only good case on mafia on day 1 because I'm bad. That's kind of the point, we were all terrible. | ||
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