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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 16:04 GMT
#252
As it stands now, I'll lynch Malongo or SL.
Maybe Palmar, although my main motivation is that he must not sleep in peace tonight if he wants to live. Vivax is cruel
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 16:36 GMT
#268
What actually happened is you shat your pants while trolling and dropped the facade.
I look forward to seeing you around at 2 AM
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 16:57 GMT
#280
On February 22 2017 01:55 Damdred wrote:
Honestly I would rather kill BM but palmar seems to really believe what he is saying you know


You sound as if you had no reason of your own now, delegating all responsibility to Palmar after saying that I didn't look like my townie self.

Could you elaborate on the latter?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 16:59 GMT
#282
On February 22 2017 01:56 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2017 23:41 Vivax wrote:
You seem untouched by the scumreads on you SL, that's not very characteristic for your town self.
Rayn described it in his own way, and as for me, you are more passionate and confident as town. If you are town tough, calling Koshi scum doesn't help your cause as he looks pretty town to me and the accusation looks random and lazy.


my last few games tho. im used to it


And you stand by a Koshi=scum theory?
He has improved a lot as scum but for now, I'm not seeing it in this game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 17:07 GMT
#290
On February 22 2017 02:05 sicklucker wrote:
ryan def town.Vivax is not obvious mafia yet never lynching day 1. palmar is my bro so i cant be against him this game but might be mafia. so i say we kill the sideliner calling all the easy people scum aka dandred. New guy is townish.


Was just about to ask who you'd lynch if not Koshi.

Damdred you know that Palmar tends to post fake reads at the beginning of the game right?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 17:52 GMT
#299
On February 22 2017 02:28 Damdred wrote:
Liek Vivax do you really think Palmar is scum here?


Palmar always flip flips between lazy and tryhard in his games. If I judge him by his reads, he's wrong on me, and I believe wrong on rayn. But Palmar is bad, so that doesn't mean much either.

On a more serious note, he's still null. And I don't see why he shouldn't be null to anyone else.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 18:27 GMT
#307
What bothers me about Damdred is that a townie never knows if Palmar is serious or not. And if I compare his reaction to rayn's, the clear cut difference is that rayn keeps the option open that Palmar is just being Trollmar, while Damdred takes everything he says at face value while also being aware, upong being asked, that it could just be Trollmar.

Overall I think mafia is much more likely to see the opportunity to lynch me just cuz Palmar said it, and will just jump on the train when Palmar asks for it.

In this scenario obviously, Palmar is always town. So that would be a requirement. I'm willing to go with a conditional townread on Palmar for the time being.

Koshi has me successfully pocketed. I'd expect him to be a bit more careful with his read on me. So I'm not as confident he's town any more.

What I'd like to see is a reason for Koshi abandoning his SL scumread to go after fefe here, as his switch to FF looks rather random for the time being.

I think the lynch should be between SL and Damdred atm. Maybe Malongo, but I'm going to revisit his filter first.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 18:37 GMT
#308
On February 21 2017 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
So palmar shits out the most obscene accusation and nobody is around to comment is it a bad time for europe?


Regarding FF, if he's mafia it's for this cause obscene accusation is a strong choice of words for Palmar just quoting me from another game. I found it funny, FF found it super serious. The difference in reaction is what might have given away a scum FF here, but it's pretty much based on my own reaction and hence subjective.

As for Malongo, I tried seeing things from his perspective. He doesn't necessarily want to lynch D1, ok. He wants us to name someone we would lynch, ok. He picked rayn for meh reasons, ok. To me he just looks like he had a plan, but I keep not seeing the purpose or outcome of that plan. It might have made sense earlier in the game. His tone overall struck me as defensive and occasionally aggressive. But I'm going to see where he takes it from here since most of you seem to think he's town.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:41 GMT
#393
I think rayn is town and if you do too, it'd be a dick move to deny him his D1 lynch when he isn't here. I'm half sheeping a player I thought lost, in this lynch.
Not just that, there are actual reasons for SL to be mafia.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:42 GMT
#395
On February 22 2017 08:41 Koshi wrote:
Good night.


:/ not gonna stick around?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:48 GMT
#402
On February 22 2017 08:43 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 08:42 Vivax wrote:
On February 22 2017 08:41 Koshi wrote:
Good night.


:/ not gonna stick around?

I will for you. But make it fast.


SL voted for himself, I'm afraid I can't make it that fast. Maybe 10-20 minutes until I make up my mind for myself.
My thought was however that you should try to make a compromise and not just drop your vote off onto someone who is a coinflip while half the town isn't here or asleep.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:50 GMT
#403
I'm kinda getting visions of FF and SL being mafia and tempting me into voting Damdred.while SL drops wifom bombs.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:55 GMT
#411
On February 22 2017 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
lol i didnt mean to vote for myself


Why? Don't you want to lynch mafia?
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:56 GMT
#412
On February 22 2017 08:54 Koshi wrote:
The problem here is Palmar. I don't know what he is doing. But the post he made about be being a traitor to the people is something he did as mafia before.


Palmar just came from a tryhard-scum game. His game is going be a troll/lazy game no matter what.
You can discard anything he says for now.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 21 2017 23:56 GMT
#413
His next game*
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 22 2017 00:02 GMT
#422
FF:

On February 22 2017 03:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
FF what are my points on Damdred?


This really needs to be answered since you claim that you are sheeping. And I am not sure what you are sheeping.

On February 22 2017 08:54 Malongo wrote:
I don`t get it SL voting himself means he doesn`t give shit or he is taunting. Vivax you are never leaving ryan`s side?


Does it mean anything to you that SL self voted after he explained it was a mistake? I don't see how you draw conclusions on his alignment from here, so I don't see how it's relevant.

As for rayn, it's his first game on here since ages and I want him to be comfy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 22 2017 00:04 GMT
#424
On February 22 2017 08:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2017 08:56 Vivax wrote:
On February 22 2017 08:54 Koshi wrote:
The problem here is Palmar. I don't know what he is doing. But the post he made about be being a traitor to the people is something he did as mafia before.


Palmar just came from a tryhard-scum game. His game is going be a troll/lazy game no matter what.
You can discard anything he says for now.

I disagree and I find your read stupid.

It is Palmar. If he is town he is going to do something. Even if he trolls. At some point he will do something meaningful. He isn't. He is actively sowing distrust between a lot of people in this thread and you are ignoring him.

That is extremely bad play Vivax.


Palmar has an extremely high % to be mafia. If you want. I can swap to him.



Look at him. Distrust by putting 2 town leaders as mafia. Distrust that I am an "enemy of the people". I have seen scum Palmar do this before.

Do not disregard him because you don't understand his agenda.


When he trolls, it's my policy to disregard him on D1, cause later mafia assume he's a trolling blue or something and shoot him, problem solved.

The only reason he's sowing distrust is that null to scummy elements like FF and Damdred took him at face value.

If I lynch him D1, then for fun, but not in a championship game.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 22 2017 00:18 GMT
#429
On February 22 2017 09:16 Koshi wrote:
Unite on BM. I like you people. We should all stay together.


I will switch if it's me getting lynched at EoD.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 22 2017 00:20 GMT
#431
Or maybe Damdred cause he's sheeping Trollmar, shows up to waffle a little, says I'm scumreading Palmar. And doesn't follow up or seem to care about making the right decision.

On February 22 2017 02:28 Damdred wrote:
Liek Vivax do you really think Palmar is scum here?


On February 22 2017 07:22 Damdred wrote:
I would consider lunch in vivax but idk so kinda comes off a bit town in the exchange about it being me v him.

Mafia could do it I guess but seems more town so far ehhh



On February 22 2017 07:31 Damdred wrote:
Then why won't you change your vote and help him? Or push anyone that has any traction atm besides bm?



On February 22 2017 08:07 Damdred wrote:
I might follow koshi hrmmm

Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
February 22 2017 00:21 GMT
#432
The third quote is to Malongo btw.
I've rarely seen Damdred so happy to just park his vote on me and peace out.
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