• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 12:55
CEST 18:55
KST 01:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202542Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up5LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments3[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced58
StarCraft 2
General
Clem Interview: "PvT is a bit insane right now" Serral wins EWC 2025 TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy Would you prefer the game to be balanced around top-tier pro level or average pro level? Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays $5,000 WardiTV Summer Championship 2025 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars
Brood War
General
How do the new Battle.net ranks translate? Which top zerg/toss will fail in qualifiers? BW General Discussion Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced Nobody gona talk about this year crazy qualifiers?
Tourneys
[ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Cosmonarchy Pro Showmatches [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 1
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition Does 1 second matter in StarCraft?
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Bitcoin discussion thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread 9/11 Anniversary
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 757 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #1 - Page 94

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 92 93 94 95 96 108 Next
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 21:54 GMT
#1861
ZzzzzzZZzzzz getting annoyed.
if you guys want to really ML me, make that today.

preferably with good reasons, but whatevs.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 21:57 GMT
#1862
Like I have a huge case on Rels that all of yall ignore.
Slam is my #2 scumread. HF has actually good points on him.

Unfortunately I don't know ppls alignments and I still dont really understand what went on with page 91. So I'm just sitting here, hoping we even get a majority on someone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
December 27 2016 21:59 GMT
#1863
who cares what went on with claims?

sl fake claimed medic and that's all you need to know
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:03 GMT
#1864
Had to think about that for a moment, but okay.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:03 GMT
#1865
more like whatever. but okay.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:19 GMT
#1866
wow thats a big case on me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:39 GMT
#1867
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] looks very suspicious by vca alone. votes dont lie

Actually that's a good point for me being town. I don't look bad as scum. Check out my last scumgame where I bus Tumblewood D2 and get a lot of towncred.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Focused on a few ppl. Has mentions of most here and there, but pretty eh ish. Example: not much on LS at all.

Same as above. I don't forget to mention my teammate as scum.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Focus on me for whatever reason all game long. waffle into defending into suspicion into case. Can indicate mafia agenda, esp in a game where ML are hard to get. hint for scum: if you want to ML me, do it early.

I don't see how me evolving my read on you if scum indicative. Your sarcastic comment doesn't change anything about it.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Also constantly brings bad meta on me, but thats probably karma for me getting ExO_'s meta wrong.

What bad meta ? You buddy a lot as scum. You bused FF in the dark tournamenet game and I think your also bused HTS.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Because of these it doesnt really feel like he is playing the game on towns side. At all.

There is no point in this point.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] The drunk post were pretty horrible as either alignment, too.

And in this one.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] The mindmeld with SL? Rels just accepted the mindmeld with thanks. Easy pocket easy game.

Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town.
On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote:
1) Sticks around a while to consolidate if majority is needed. Easy to do for scum, esp if all options are town.
2) Given his filter I am not sure why he doesnt want me over ExO_ lynched.
3) Seems pretty unwilling to reconsider things. More likely to come from scum.

1) So if it's something I would also do as town, why is it in a list of things that makes me scum ?
2) Cause I thought exo was more likely scum that you. Which I think is quite clear in my filter why.
3) I do that as town as well as scum. And you know it. For example in the last game I stayed on exo and fought for his lynch D1 even though he was there until deadline in this case. In the game before that I stayed on NU. And on the game before it was on Lunatic. I odn't change my vote easily, and you obsed enough of my games to know that.

On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote:
1) Doesnt Check LS meta from the game where LS broke alignment despite saying so
2) Final post + vote on kmatt 20mins after HF posted a very good post in Kmatts defense
3) Implies he doesnt like Kmatt filter. Vote post includes only the wifom/no sense stuff and nothing from his filter.

1) yep I never had time to do that. Which again, is something so obviously scummy if LS ever flips that I would never do that as scum.
2) I didn't understand the HF post until he quoted it again later.
3) This makes no sense. I don't imply anything other than why I'm voting Kmatt in this post:
On December 23 2016 10:32 Rels wrote:
Yeah Kmatt is scum.
The first dumbtell was so INCREDIBLY AWESOME he hsould have stopped there. 2 dumbtells in a row, on such stupidly easily verifiable things is too weird to be a coincidence.
His reads don't make sense. They are not logical. He's scumreading LS for an itneraction with exo, and that is it; he's saying himself that he's hedging a bet on it. He's saying rels / LS could be the team because ... no reason, just 'cause Koshi yelled about it.
He thinks Slam is town because "I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two.". This is a weird read, but most importantly the same situation to his main scumread too.
The only reason he thinks disfo is town is because of: "What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo." This is a bad read, but that's not a problem for a noob to make a bad read: the problem is that AGAIN it applies to his main scumread.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 27 2016 22:40 GMT
#1868
rels your reactionary lazy play is kind of scummy bro
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 27 2016 22:40 GMT
#1869
altho disinfos posts didnt have much I found substance
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:42 GMT
#1870
This case on me was bad disfo. You know me a lot, you obsed me a lot, and you almost always correctly read me. Here you listed a lot of things that you SHOULD know doesn't make me scum. In contrary, I'm scum when I'm too right, when I'm replying to every message to appear active and when I'm constantly nitpicking on logical mistakes people make; not when I focus on some people more than others, and especially not when VCA makes me look bad.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:43 GMT
#1871
On December 28 2016 07:40 sicklucker wrote:
rels your reactionary lazy play is kind of scummy bro

I play reactionary 'casue I have had 0 time to play since I left Paris. Now is the first time since then I'm on a real computer
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:45 GMT
#1872
On December 27 2016 22:16 disformation wrote:
So Slam.
Super AFK. No idea what/where his reads are from. Wish he would have expanded on the LS/Kmatt thing yesterday.
Wish I knew who he was going to vote today. Wish he wouldnt have backed off of LS in one of the posts I quoted.

sooooo you listed 1000 things that are wrong with me and 5 posts from Slam that contained one that you found townie but you're unsure ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:46 GMT
#1873
On December 27 2016 22:40 disformation wrote:
so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam.

Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on.
Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to.

Meant to quote this post. Why are you so unsure about this choice ? It sounds way more straightforward reading your cases
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:49 GMT
#1874
On December 28 2016 02:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 20:19 Rels wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=65#1299
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=66#1320

Slam I don't understand your play here. You say you're catching up and mention that the vote is between LS and kmatt. Then you say "the day was decided before I got there" and leave the thread without giving your thoughts on LS or kmatt. Why didn't you take a side on kmatt / LS ?


why are you attacking slam when disinfo is mafia?

Cause I found these two posts werid and I want to know why he was thinking that the day was over
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:52 GMT
#1875
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Actually that's a good point for me being town. I don't look bad as scum. Check out my last scumgame where I bus Tumblewood D2 and get a lot of towncred.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Same as above. I don't forget to mention my teammate as scum.

"Oh I simply dont do that as scum" isnt a very good defense. Just sayin'.
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
I don't see how me evolving my read on you if scum indicative. Your sarcastic comment doesn't change anything about it.

You are focusing a lot of your time and effort on me. And with a scummy narrative ever since you got over your initial waffle post. Also attempt at deflection noticed.
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
What bad meta ? You buddy a lot as scum. You bused FF in the dark tournamenet game and I think your also bused HTS.

This game is nothing like DT. Therefore bad meta. Hint: look at how I bussed them.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town.

On December 21 2016 05:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 05:25 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 02:22 Rels wrote:
SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum


[image loading]


[image loading]

Point still stands.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
1) yep I never had time to do that. Which again, is something so obviously scummy if LS ever flips that I would never do that as scum.
2) I didn't understand the HF post until he quoted it again later.
3) This makes no sense. I don't imply anything other than why I'm voting Kmatt in this post:

1) see above.
2) see above.
3) I meant another post, but I think I got that wrong. -.-
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:53 GMT
#1876
SL / HF I fucking hope you know what you're fucking doing 'cause if one of you is scum I will be really mad at the other. It looks like you're doing a fucking swap play. Won't comment more on it 'cause I think I got it and you're both town but let it be known that if one of you has been outplayed he's a fucking moron
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1877
So can we afford an ml?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1878
These posts are kind of throwing me for a loop here.

Rels: You think Disinformation is mafia and SL is town

Disinformation: You think Rels is scum and SL is town

SL: Rels is scum and disinformation is town

Did I get that all straight?
We CAN have nice things
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1879
On December 28 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 22:40 disformation wrote:
so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam.

Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on.
Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to.

Meant to quote this post. Why are you so unsure about this choice ? It sounds way more straightforward reading your cases

Cause I dont know your damn alignments?

Its kinda hard to tell if you we are pants on head casing each other and its afk lurk slam or Im just right on you.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2016 22:55 GMT
#1880
*can we afford to ml
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Prev 1 92 93 94 95 96 108 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15:00
Open Qualifier #2
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Hui .309
BRAT_OK 122
UpATreeSC 101
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 4523
Rain 3167
Shuttle 2380
Bisu 2279
Flash 1303
firebathero 976
Mong 911
EffOrt 874
Horang2 815
Mini 700
[ Show more ]
Larva 542
Soulkey 395
ggaemo 349
Snow 197
Hyuk 154
ZerO 144
Barracks 133
hero 117
Soma 98
Dewaltoss 93
PianO 79
TY 70
Movie 64
Rush 60
sSak 44
sas.Sziky 42
Killer 40
Sharp 32
sorry 31
JYJ26
Aegong 23
scan(afreeca) 15
Terrorterran 13
SilentControl 6
[sc1f]eonzerg 3
Stormgate
TKL 201
Dota 2
Gorgc6858
qojqva4101
Dendi2535
syndereN445
XcaliburYe222
League of Legends
Reynor67
Counter-Strike
ScreaM2469
fl0m2098
flusha440
kRYSTAL_64
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox472
Other Games
singsing1903
KnowMe495
Lowko411
crisheroes260
Fuzer 197
oskar139
Trikslyr56
QueenE43
B2W.Neo35
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 98
• davetesta43
• iHatsuTV 13
• Dystopia_ 9
• Hinosc 7
• IndyKCrew
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix15
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 3784
• WagamamaTV658
• Shiphtur282
League of Legends
• Nemesis5547
• TFBlade1199
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
7h 5m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
18h 5m
Stormgate Nexus
21h 5m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
23h 5m
The PondCast
1d 17h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
CSO Cup
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
Wardi Open
5 days
RotterdaM Event
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
Thunderpick World Champ.
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.