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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 21:54 GMT
#1861
ZzzzzzZZzzzz getting annoyed.
if you guys want to really ML me, make that today.

preferably with good reasons, but whatevs.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 21:57 GMT
#1862
Like I have a huge case on Rels that all of yall ignore.
Slam is my #2 scumread. HF has actually good points on him.

Unfortunately I don't know ppls alignments and I still dont really understand what went on with page 91. So I'm just sitting here, hoping we even get a majority on someone.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 27 2016 21:59 GMT
#1863
who cares what went on with claims?

sl fake claimed medic and that's all you need to know
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:03 GMT
#1864
Had to think about that for a moment, but okay.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:03 GMT
#1865
more like whatever. but okay.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:19 GMT
#1866
wow thats a big case on me
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:39 GMT
#1867
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] looks very suspicious by vca alone. votes dont lie

Actually that's a good point for me being town. I don't look bad as scum. Check out my last scumgame where I bus Tumblewood D2 and get a lot of towncred.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Focused on a few ppl. Has mentions of most here and there, but pretty eh ish. Example: not much on LS at all.

Same as above. I don't forget to mention my teammate as scum.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Focus on me for whatever reason all game long. waffle into defending into suspicion into case. Can indicate mafia agenda, esp in a game where ML are hard to get. hint for scum: if you want to ML me, do it early.

I don't see how me evolving my read on you if scum indicative. Your sarcastic comment doesn't change anything about it.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Also constantly brings bad meta on me, but thats probably karma for me getting ExO_'s meta wrong.

What bad meta ? You buddy a lot as scum. You bused FF in the dark tournamenet game and I think your also bused HTS.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] Because of these it doesnt really feel like he is playing the game on towns side. At all.

There is no point in this point.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] The drunk post were pretty horrible as either alignment, too.

And in this one.
On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote:
[*] The mindmeld with SL? Rels just accepted the mindmeld with thanks. Easy pocket easy game.

Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town.
On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote:
1) Sticks around a while to consolidate if majority is needed. Easy to do for scum, esp if all options are town.
2) Given his filter I am not sure why he doesnt want me over ExO_ lynched.
3) Seems pretty unwilling to reconsider things. More likely to come from scum.

1) So if it's something I would also do as town, why is it in a list of things that makes me scum ?
2) Cause I thought exo was more likely scum that you. Which I think is quite clear in my filter why.
3) I do that as town as well as scum. And you know it. For example in the last game I stayed on exo and fought for his lynch D1 even though he was there until deadline in this case. In the game before that I stayed on NU. And on the game before it was on Lunatic. I odn't change my vote easily, and you obsed enough of my games to know that.

On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote:
1) Doesnt Check LS meta from the game where LS broke alignment despite saying so
2) Final post + vote on kmatt 20mins after HF posted a very good post in Kmatts defense
3) Implies he doesnt like Kmatt filter. Vote post includes only the wifom/no sense stuff and nothing from his filter.

1) yep I never had time to do that. Which again, is something so obviously scummy if LS ever flips that I would never do that as scum.
2) I didn't understand the HF post until he quoted it again later.
3) This makes no sense. I don't imply anything other than why I'm voting Kmatt in this post:
On December 23 2016 10:32 Rels wrote:
Yeah Kmatt is scum.
The first dumbtell was so INCREDIBLY AWESOME he hsould have stopped there. 2 dumbtells in a row, on such stupidly easily verifiable things is too weird to be a coincidence.
His reads don't make sense. They are not logical. He's scumreading LS for an itneraction with exo, and that is it; he's saying himself that he's hedging a bet on it. He's saying rels / LS could be the team because ... no reason, just 'cause Koshi yelled about it.
He thinks Slam is town because "I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two.". This is a weird read, but most importantly the same situation to his main scumread too.
The only reason he thinks disfo is town is because of: "What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo." This is a bad read, but that's not a problem for a noob to make a bad read: the problem is that AGAIN it applies to his main scumread.

sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 27 2016 22:40 GMT
#1868
rels your reactionary lazy play is kind of scummy bro
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 27 2016 22:40 GMT
#1869
altho disinfos posts didnt have much I found substance
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:42 GMT
#1870
This case on me was bad disfo. You know me a lot, you obsed me a lot, and you almost always correctly read me. Here you listed a lot of things that you SHOULD know doesn't make me scum. In contrary, I'm scum when I'm too right, when I'm replying to every message to appear active and when I'm constantly nitpicking on logical mistakes people make; not when I focus on some people more than others, and especially not when VCA makes me look bad.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:43 GMT
#1871
On December 28 2016 07:40 sicklucker wrote:
rels your reactionary lazy play is kind of scummy bro

I play reactionary 'casue I have had 0 time to play since I left Paris. Now is the first time since then I'm on a real computer
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:45 GMT
#1872
On December 27 2016 22:16 disformation wrote:
So Slam.
Super AFK. No idea what/where his reads are from. Wish he would have expanded on the LS/Kmatt thing yesterday.
Wish I knew who he was going to vote today. Wish he wouldnt have backed off of LS in one of the posts I quoted.

sooooo you listed 1000 things that are wrong with me and 5 posts from Slam that contained one that you found townie but you're unsure ?
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:46 GMT
#1873
On December 27 2016 22:40 disformation wrote:
so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam.

Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on.
Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to.

Meant to quote this post. Why are you so unsure about this choice ? It sounds way more straightforward reading your cases
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:49 GMT
#1874
On December 28 2016 02:33 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 20:19 Rels wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=65#1299
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=66#1320

Slam I don't understand your play here. You say you're catching up and mention that the vote is between LS and kmatt. Then you say "the day was decided before I got there" and leave the thread without giving your thoughts on LS or kmatt. Why didn't you take a side on kmatt / LS ?


why are you attacking slam when disinfo is mafia?

Cause I found these two posts werid and I want to know why he was thinking that the day was over
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:52 GMT
#1875
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Actually that's a good point for me being town. I don't look bad as scum. Check out my last scumgame where I bus Tumblewood D2 and get a lot of towncred.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Same as above. I don't forget to mention my teammate as scum.

"Oh I simply dont do that as scum" isnt a very good defense. Just sayin'.
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
I don't see how me evolving my read on you if scum indicative. Your sarcastic comment doesn't change anything about it.

You are focusing a lot of your time and effort on me. And with a scummy narrative ever since you got over your initial waffle post. Also attempt at deflection noticed.
On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
What bad meta ? You buddy a lot as scum. You bused FF in the dark tournamenet game and I think your also bused HTS.

This game is nothing like DT. Therefore bad meta. Hint: look at how I bussed them.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town.

On December 21 2016 05:28 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 05:25 sicklucker wrote:
On December 21 2016 02:22 Rels wrote:
SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum


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Point still stands.

On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote:
1) yep I never had time to do that. Which again, is something so obviously scummy if LS ever flips that I would never do that as scum.
2) I didn't understand the HF post until he quoted it again later.
3) This makes no sense. I don't imply anything other than why I'm voting Kmatt in this post:

1) see above.
2) see above.
3) I meant another post, but I think I got that wrong. -.-
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
December 27 2016 22:53 GMT
#1876
SL / HF I fucking hope you know what you're fucking doing 'cause if one of you is scum I will be really mad at the other. It looks like you're doing a fucking swap play. Won't comment more on it 'cause I think I got it and you're both town but let it be known that if one of you has been outplayed he's a fucking moron
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1877
So can we afford an ml?
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Kmatt
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1019 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1878
These posts are kind of throwing me for a loop here.

Rels: You think Disinformation is mafia and SL is town

Disinformation: You think Rels is scum and SL is town

SL: Rels is scum and disinformation is town

Did I get that all straight?
We CAN have nice things
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 27 2016 22:54 GMT
#1879
On December 28 2016 07:46 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2016 22:40 disformation wrote:
so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam.

Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on.
Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to.

Meant to quote this post. Why are you so unsure about this choice ? It sounds way more straightforward reading your cases

Cause I dont know your damn alignments?

Its kinda hard to tell if you we are pants on head casing each other and its afk lurk slam or Im just right on you.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
December 27 2016 22:55 GMT
#1880
*can we afford to ml
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
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