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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:27 GMT
#793
apply face to desk. wish i had listened to koshi and ls. -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:28 GMT
#797
well okay then
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:30 GMT
#800
On December 21 2016 10:29 Alakaslam wrote:
I think you guys are Derping.

easy to say from a position where you didnt have any stance on exo all day long.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:31 GMT
#804
*sigh* that was totally not worth staying up for. -.-
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:33 GMT
#806
yeah some updated reads n stuff would be great.

ill go to bed. 02:30 here.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:49 GMT
#821
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 01:50 GMT
#822
now bed for realz.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 02:12 GMT
#836
On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.

okay general thoughts:
at least 1 scum on exo.
i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow).
so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels.
if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff.

out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that.

one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread.

but yeah tomorrow is filter time
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 02:21 GMT
#844
On December 21 2016 11:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote:
On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote:
ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Koshi, Rels, sicklucker, disformation, Koshi
Alakaslam (2): Koshi, Koshi, LightningStrike
disformation (1): Holyflare, Koshi, Koshi, Alakaslam
Holyflare (1): ExO_
Kmatt (0): sicklucker
sicklucker (0): Koshi
Rels (0): Alakaslam

Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes.

okay general thoughts:
at least 1 scum on exo.
i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow).
so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels.
if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff.

out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that.

one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread.

but yeah tomorrow is filter time

Doesn't my entrance recently look hugely like a massive case Of too much information ?

I am expecting to be scum read a good bit. Giving my say to town is worth that.

fair point. was basing thid pn votes.
what i was refering to: ls and koshi eere the only ones really geetting sn other wagon going / thinking exo is towny.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 12:24 GMT
#885
I think its kmatt +1.

partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt.
another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind".

something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right?

will be back later to look at some filters in more detail.

tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 12:26 GMT
#886
especially after slam looks a lot better now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 15:49 GMT
#896
On December 21 2016 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
Alssooo don't think sl and kmatt are a team based on the way kmatt was explaining all sl's towny intentions at the start of the game

good point.
On December 21 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 23:24 Holyflare wrote:
I'm not ruling out kmatt disfo. He seemed pretty weird around the disfo wagon "all the points on disfo are great but this wagon I'm repeatedly having cold feet about is better!"

I am not ruling out LS/HF. But it's pretty low on my probability list.

Overall I think LS is town, but I wish he had more reads in his filter.
Like start of his filter is a bit of interaction/questioning early D1 without conclusions. Though I think that the questions into nothing and him generally not having a lot of formulated reads fit his town meta.

Though I agree that he should be low on the priority list. Would like to see more stuff from him though.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 16:03 GMT
#897
also kinda forgot about that:
On December 20 2016 00:13 sicklucker wrote:
##unvote
##vote Kmatt

On December 20 2016 00:14 sicklucker wrote:
alright gonna bus my newb partner. lets see how this works out
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 16:06 GMT
#898
So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1.

LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that.

Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 16:35 GMT
#901
its super obvious scum is going to nk me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 16:37 GMT
#902
On December 20 2016 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 03:24 Kmatt wrote:
On December 20 2016 03:15 Koshi wrote:
Kmatt don't be disconnected to what is happening right now.


I'm phone posting and it's cold, give me a break.

To be honest I don't like where this is going. Looks like a repeat of my NSM game where I was under scrutiny, NocturneMage questioned me gently before levelling off and got someone else lynched. This sudden interest in disinformation, while justifiable, looks like it has mafia influence.



[image loading]

Oh baby.

btw that was also a pretty good post.
guess what kmatts answer was?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 16:40 GMT
#903
ah nope he actually answered it. Though it is super ahrd to discern. answer was this:
On December 20 2016 03:30 Kmatt wrote:
Nothing that anyone has said about disinformation seems wrong. He's definitely contributing less to the discussion. However, for us to go from being mostly in agreement on Exo to an entirely different case out of nowhere seems worng.



but yeah I guess I have to take a break. getting confused with that many tabs open.

also sl filter not that fun to read.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 17:57 GMT
#911
On December 22 2016 02:21 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 17:28 Koshi wrote:
On December 21 2016 11:13 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 21 2016 10:23 Kmatt wrote:
How you don't know is beyond me unless you skipped 39 pages.

I voted him on his first post, he went super defensive/reactionary and kind of flailed about as pressure mounted. Since then he hasn't done anything constructive and continues to insist how he's VT and how HF is a meaniehead.

This told me sooooooo much

Can you explain this a bit more? Why can't scum!Kmatt think that?

I can see scum!Kmatt lurking and analyse that line out of ExO his defense.

Because if he were scum, he wouldn't gladly inform me I think. He'd yell at me for being go-

Wait

Town would do that

Kmatt is a bit questionable. I got townfeels though.

Aight. Let's see it is not Kmatt. Who is it then?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 19:30 GMT
#949
On December 22 2016 03:32 Holyflare wrote:
If kmatt is mafia I'm safe calling sl town. He also seems not grumpy but he's also self aware of that now so probably means nothing.

I need to look into whether rels has ever mentioned kmatt at all.

He mentions kmatt very early in the post sicklucker mindmelds him for.
Asks a few questions of Kmatt.
Later:
On December 20 2016 18:45 Rels wrote:
Kmatt might be townier that I thought. I didn't like his early posts but that's because I didn't understand the logic. The rest of his filter is pretty natural, especially on exo, and I don't remember Kmatt being a good scum in the last game he played. I will have to reread it at some point to verify that thought.

After Kmatts wall:
On December 21 2016 02:40 Rels wrote:
Kmatt post is pretty good.


Asks Kmatt a few questions at EoD about ExO_ etc.

I think I told Rels that Kmatt was actually pretty good in the last scum game. Not sure if Rels reacted to that. Dont think so.
Oh wait he even links it himself:
On December 21 2016 07:48 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Can someone link the kmatt mafia game?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500060-newbie-student-mafia-xviii?user=Kmatt


but no comment on contents of that game, from what i have seen.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 21 2016 19:33 GMT
#952
still cant really wrap my head around the mindmeld thing.
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