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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:11 GMT
#1421
On December 23 2016 01:01 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 00:52 Kmatt wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:51 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:43 Koshi wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:41 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
It's Rels and LS.

Me and Rels being partners? Oh please where you got this idea from?

There is nothing that connects you 2 except that you are both mafia.

Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly:
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Why haven't you bothered to find mafia this game LS? I thought you wanted to help me make town great again? You have done nothing. Even your D1 vote Slam just happened because I on that moment wanted to lynch Slam, if I wanted to lynch anybody else you would have went with that probably.

Where is your scumhunting? Where is your read progression?

Even on ExO. There is no progression. It is just you using meta and sticking to that.


I can see why you don't like LS this late in but why Rels? I saw a few people comment on him as I got caught up.

I have already explained it but I will repeat because I have said a lot of random things already as well:

- Rels is mafia because he is more likely pushing a mafia agenda over a town agenda. As you can see, he is pushing disformation for a while now, and his latest case (albeit it not being bad, but mafia can make an ok case from time to time) is a great example of how a mafia is solely able to focus on 1 thing to both look town and further the mafia agenda.

Rels is missing key ingredients in his play that make him town, this is a bit harder to explain but a townie most of the time is able to discuss multiple things at the same time and can freely discuss his reads and ideas over a game. Rels has not yet shown this. He isn't playing bad as mafia but he is not able to really look town.

The best thing is his waffle on Disformation D1, how he townread him but not really, how hard he sold his towncase while it was pretty bad and just based on 1 thing that was even incorrect. But then when he saw the opportunity to call disformation mafia he took it and is simply not letting go anymore.

I can give more reasoning over why he is more likely mafia over town. But I am pretty sure we are reaching a point in which he is not town anymore. For example during the night. Him calling me mafia in case he died so dramatically showed that he had 0 feeling with what was really happening in this game. As town, he would never feel that, that was super unnatural.

Okay point 1. I had seen decent cases from scum onto townies before but why you think it was him pushing mafia agenda?
Point 2. I actually need to check his filter more on this.
Point 3. People change their mind all the time although it could oppterunistic so again I need to check his filter for it.
Looking for your other stuff for sicklucker and Kmatt now.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:13 GMT
#1422
On December 24 2016 02:06 Koshi wrote:
And can you look really deep in your soul and tell me why you really raged earlier?

Because I saw all the votes on me and couldn't be bothered to be rationale about it and let it all out on you. I now trying to find your stuff on Kmatt and sicklucker.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 23 2016 17:14 GMT
#1423
Ls why do you think kmatt is still definitely mafia after he's dumb telled twice?
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:15 GMT
#1424
Ugh I don't see anything about Kmatt past Day 1 Koshi or anything about why sicklucker is scum from you Koshi.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:16 GMT
#1425
On December 24 2016 02:13 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:06 Koshi wrote:
And can you look really deep in your soul and tell me why you really raged earlier?

Because I saw all the votes on me and couldn't be bothered to be rationale about it and let it all out on you. I now trying to find your stuff on Kmatt and sicklucker.

The correct answer was: "I was trying to cheat myself into getting an easy townread"

As both alignments tbh.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:16 GMT
#1426
On December 24 2016 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Ls why do you think kmatt is still definitely mafia after he's dumb telled twice?

I can see mafia dumb tell shit espcally from MD who dumb telled a couple of times in Stars Wars The Mafia Awaken hence why despite his dumb tells he could still be mafia.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1427
On December 24 2016 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I don't see anything about Kmatt past Day 1 Koshi or anything about why sicklucker is scum from you Koshi.

No I haven't typed anything about sl.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:17 GMT
#1428
On December 24 2016 02:00 Koshi wrote:
LS do you have any reasons to think HF being mafia? And not meta wise. Just from this thread.

Nothing from the thread it just meta about how long he normally lives as town other mafia.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:18 GMT
#1429
On December 24 2016 02:17 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Ugh I don't see anything about Kmatt past Day 1 Koshi or anything about why sicklucker is scum from you Koshi.

No I haven't typed anything about sl.

Okay I thought my eyes were fooling me when I was checking your filter.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:19 GMT
#1430
On December 24 2016 01:59 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:52 Koshi wrote:
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.

Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because
1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town.
2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi.

about 2.

From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer.

Exactly we should vote him then!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:20 GMT
#1431
On December 24 2016 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 01:59 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:52 Koshi wrote:
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.

Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because
1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town.
2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi.

about 2.

From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer.

Exactly we should vote him then!

But why? There is still no proof in this thread except PoE and gut feelings.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:22 GMT
#1432
On December 24 2016 02:16 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:14 Holyflare wrote:
Ls why do you think kmatt is still definitely mafia after he's dumb telled twice?

I can see mafia dumb tell shit espcally from MD who dumb telled a couple of times in Stars Wars The Mafia Awaken hence why despite his dumb tells he could still be mafia.

You think he posted 3 names intentionally as mafia day 3 and then only when somebody said there were 2 mafia he went for the credit? Impressive plays.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1433
EBWOP

I meant D1. He posted 3 names for mafia D1 when he was under no pressure, to use that dumbtell D2 when he was under pressure.
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1434
On December 24 2016 02:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2016 02:19 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:59 Koshi wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 24 2016 01:52 Koshi wrote:
LS. Could you please post some freaking analysis on why we should lynch sicklucker? Like... Why are you not doing that this game. I do not understand why you ended up on sicklucker.

Well it's because no one wants Kmatt so I rather go to my 2nd scum which is sicklucker. The reason sicklucker is scum because
1. He didn't try hard at all even during the night which he normally starts tryharding as town.
2. The fact that he still haven't by this point tryharded and no really doing anything fits his scum where if he thinks one of his teammates are in trouble he stops which point when I was up for lynch he decided then to start posting. You saw this in Cell Millionaire and in our last game together Koshi.

about 2.

From what I remember sl plays as mafia only when it benefits him. So him starting to play now and not when Kmatt is up for lynch shows town is getting closer.

Exactly we should vote him then!

But why? There is still no proof in this thread except PoE and gut feelings.

Like I told you he wasn't really tryharding this game and the way he came back when I was the main wagon fits his scum meta how he stops try harding if he teammates are in trouble or being up for lynch.
Here was his last post before I was the main wagon:
On December 23 2016 10:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 10:10 Rels wrote:
On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Lynch Rels. He is mafia.

##unvote
##vote Rels

Come on. We finally had a moment where we talked about something this morning and you're back to THIS
You're very very very annoying this game. The worst thing is that I don't even think you're a likely scum. At all. And that annoys me the most.


he woundlt be koshi if he was not terrible tunneling some town. usually its me feels bad man

Then he posts this after I became the main wagon:
On December 24 2016 00:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 23 2016 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
for real if there's a cop in this game plz speak


someones paranoid about me being mafia

Coincidence? I don't think not. Lynch him!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 23 2016 17:23 GMT
#1435
But ls his dumb tell was that there was 3 mafia and his list at the start of the game had 3 mafia. You think that's faked? He made a whole game fake dumb tell?
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:24 GMT
#1436
You realize you are saying that you are his teammate right?
I had a good night of sleep.
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:26 GMT
#1437
On December 24 2016 02:24 Koshi wrote:
You realize you are saying that you are his teammate right?

No he is likely with Kmatt based on the timings of that post and then the post when I became the main wagon. He started to post more.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:27 GMT
#1438
On December 24 2016 02:23 Holyflare wrote:
But ls his dumb tell was that there was 3 mafia and his list at the start of the game had 3 mafia. You think that's faked? He made a whole game fake dumb tell?

Very possible. Especially he he gets a veteran player to coach him up to do it.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 23 2016 17:30 GMT
#1439
HF and Koshi sheep me boys!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 23 2016 17:34 GMT
#1440
I don't know atm.
The problem is. I don't think there is anything you can do to make me change my read.

Due to SL his silly buddy attempt on Rels I don't think they are a team anymore.
I had a good night of sleep.
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