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On December 23 2016 02:21 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 02:17 disformation wrote:On December 23 2016 02:14 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
can we lynch both of them? hedge are bets That won't really work due to majority lynch. Either you bandwagon me or we all jump ship to LS. See with posts like this i kinda feel he is just completely lost in this game without teammates / a coach. Like is that possible to fake? How am I "lost"? I mean I can entertain the thought of being seen as scum, but passing on a lynch is always bad, right? If we lynch without confidence there's a low% chance that we ML. If we don't lynch at all there's a 0% chance of hitting scum, and mafia won't NK themselves either.
ignore the scrubs that are not on LS.
Can you tell me why Rels and Sicklucker are not a mafia team?
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On December 23 2016 02:21 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 02:17 disformation wrote:On December 23 2016 02:14 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
can we lynch both of them? hedge are bets That won't really work due to majority lynch. Either you bandwagon me or we all jump ship to LS. See with posts like this i kinda feel he is just completely lost in this game without teammates / a coach. Like is that possible to fake? How am I "lost"? I mean I can entertain the thought of being seen as scum, but passing on a lynch is always bad, right? If we lynch without confidence there's a low% chance that we ML. If we don't lynch at all there's a 0% chance of hitting scum, and mafia won't NK themselves either.
Since there can always only be one lynch SL obv made a joke.
You seemed really lost in your earlier postings of "no idea what to do". And missing that there are only 2 scummers... and so on. Btw how can you miss that there are only 2 scummers, but notice that we have no clue about the setup in the very first post?... whatever. Or is it whatever. I dont even know at this point.
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On December 23 2016 02:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 02:21 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 02:17 disformation wrote:On December 23 2016 02:14 Kmatt wrote:On December 23 2016 02:13 sicklucker wrote:
can we lynch both of them? hedge are bets That won't really work due to majority lynch. Either you bandwagon me or we all jump ship to LS. See with posts like this i kinda feel he is just completely lost in this game without teammates / a coach. Like is that possible to fake? How am I "lost"? I mean I can entertain the thought of being seen as scum, but passing on a lynch is always bad, right? If we lynch without confidence there's a low% chance that we ML. If we don't lynch at all there's a 0% chance of hitting scum, and mafia won't NK themselves either. ignore the scrubs that are not on LS. Can you tell me why Rels and Sicklucker are not a mafia team?
The obvious answer would be that Rels was super open about how SL is townie despite not having any hard read on him day1. He later eases into SL being potential scum but not scummy enough to vote on. We could WIFOM it all day but it seems to me that neither of them are working towards the same goal. I don't think there's any proof that they're not a team but that's not how burden of proof works anyway.
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Or for a simpler answer: I don't think SL is scum so he can't be on the team.
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I actually want to see what rels and slam say to all this stuff.
absolutely dont mind today being between kmatt and ls.
both are heartily invited to keep posting stuff, to help me make up my mind.
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On December 23 2016 01:38 Holyflare wrote:
Ummm didn't you just call me mafia kmatt? Also wtf happened to your sl read??
It looks like you're just bandwagoning along for the hell of it
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I mean koshi you're all over the place on rels/ls but you're going to ignore the fact that kmatt has lied about the night thing potentially since he's actually posted at night and played a game here before while posting at night.
He had no scum reads because he forgot his actual list. I had to remind him of sicklucker which he drops like a lead balloon for absolutely 0 reason despite maintaining it's scummy?
He mentions me as a scum read but hops on any wagon possible despite TOWN READING ls on day 1 and then making a throwaway comment to hop on.
He leaves the thread after doing nothing.
So much shit here.
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Vote Count - Day 2
Kmatt (4): sicklucker, disformation, Holyflare, LightningStrike
LightningStrike (2): Koshi, Koshi, Kmatt
disformation (1): Rels, Koshi
Rels (0): Koshi
Not voted (1): Alakaslam
It looks like no one will be disqualified at the moment.
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 2 ends in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).
The voting thread is here and only votes in the voting thread will be counted.
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Mighty fine no lynch we are sitting on here.
i feel like i've hit a brick wall.
kmatt feels like half like he has no idea whats going on, half like he is just putting whatever into the thread what he thinks the person he is talking to wants to hear.
i feel like he played way better his last game, but that was like a year ago, so he could have legit just forget stuff.
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and all the ppl I want to hear more from are posting jack.
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This game is fucking dumb
"oh exo you're mafia"
Exo exits thread
"oh kmatt is mafia now"
"lol bye guys no night posting"
Kmatt leaves thread doing 0
"oh ls rels definitely mafia"
Ls rels disappear.
Plz.
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scrolling a bit through LS filter. He was also super not here for a lot of D1.
0 idea how/why/if his reads progressed D1 because of that.
LIke:
On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning. LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please. Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case.
No idea where the SR on Kmatt and SL come from. He explains his Slam read. I am guessing he SR Kmatt, because he had his meta read on ExO_. Would like to not having to guess that.
He also was mega waffly on Kmatt of that Kmatt vs SL thing very early.
On December 20 2016 01:20 LightningStrike wrote:
I honestly still a little confused on Kmatt regarding his sicklucker comment which I did press him on but didn't gain much on except talking about mechanics. I don't got a big conclusion on him yet as he hasn't posted much would like to see how he interacts with ExO and others atm before I make a judgement call.
On December 20 2016 01:24 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay so Kmatt did explain his intent about sicklucker it more clear but still a little weird tbh unless he just trying to get the game rolling.
random super waffly post on rels:
On December 21 2016 07:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:29 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:26 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 07:25 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:23 LightningStrike wrote:On December 21 2016 07:21 Koshi wrote:On December 21 2016 07:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Guys I really do think Slam is the better lynch here over ExO since I had read some of ExO's past games and ExO seems to be playing his town meta and Slam hasn't done much other than agreeing with people on stuff outside of his talk about rels and some stuff in that post but that was it. We should really lynch Slam over ExO due to my reasoning. LS give me your top 4 names that could be mafia please. Slam, Kmatt, sicklucker if doesn't prove he is town by day 3, then idk honestly I been asking people what the case was on dis since everyone talked about him being scummy and all but no one mention a case. I think Rels is more likely mafia than sicklucker. Maybe. Hmm why you don't like Rels? I might of skimmed over it when I did my catch up post. He is a dumbass. For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough. Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely. Okay I did find the post you had on Rels in your filter regarding that. Fair enough. Dunno if it exactly makes him scum but will be worth to revisit later.
Ofc no revist to speak of as of now.
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On December 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
I mean koshi you're all over the place on rels/ls but you're going to ignore the fact that kmatt has lied about the night thing potentially since he's actually posted at night and played a game here before while posting at night.
He had no scum reads because he forgot his actual list. I had to remind him of sicklucker which he drops like a lead balloon for absolutely 0 reason despite maintaining it's scummy?
He mentions me as a scum read but hops on any wagon possible despite TOWN READING ls on day 1 and then making a throwaway comment to hop on.
He leaves the thread after doing nothing.
So much shit here.
In all honesty. I started the day doing random shit because I didn't want a stale day waiting for a guy that might not show up. Wasting us a day.
I don't know where we are now.
My own feelings say Rels/LS but it makes more sense it is LS/Kmatt.
Problem is that both sicklucker and Rels are pointing fingers at 2 people I think are town (hf & disfo) and somewhere I can see them be a team very maybe? Even though the more logical solution is both town? If 1 of them is mafia the other one is playing really badly I think.
atm I don't see hf or disfo be mafia. hf based on activity and game progressing. disfo based on his last 160 posts. If they are mafia I am ok with losing to them because they simply played way better than the average townie.
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yeah, i kinda just want one of ls/rels/kmatt to come back into thread and dump a real nasty town rainbow.
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LS is mafia because he is doing what a lot of "bad" mafia players do. Which is create very strong reads at random points through the game and focus solely on those reads. But never really showing progression or evolution in their reads.
Rels is playing really strong mafia and I can only call him mafia because I think he pushes mafia agenda. He ignores too many important moments, he has waffled , he has shown stupidity in how he reads people, and he has not convinced me of a single read so far. Or shown me something I agreed with, something original, even something small. Last time we were town together I could easily talk to him and feel progression in my head. This time we just fight. I don't think this is town Rels. I have already shown examples of everything I said here. But I can repeat.
Kmatt is thougher. But I don't see the mafia agenda yet and I don't have meta. I think he is not "molded" yet by our playstyle. He brings his own game and I don't know if that game is mafia, it might just be not so good town. For example the overreaction after the flip into the silence kinda fits the fact he thought he could give a small reaction and then had to be silent for 24h. Also the fact that he just leaves for 24hours fits the "bad" vibe we get. Did he really decide to lie about this as mafia? I don't think so. I just think he is being honest. And tbh, I felt he was the townie person in the ExO vs Kmat thing at the start. Maybe they were both town and it showed more on Kmatt?
Like... I can't really pin down anything scummy on Kmatt except odd and bad play. But in my world hopping on this LS wagon is pro town. That changes when LS flips town but I don't think he will.
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Also the first time I called LS mafia during the night, when he went from biggest townread to mafia read, and I said "sorry buddy", he ignored me. I think mafia shot me and he hoped I would go away.
The second time he reacted to me, not so long ago, he was instantly combative and a bit mean, he didn't try to salvage our relation but instead tried to discredit me. Which felt really off.
So for me LS is lock mafia atm. Second one I don't know yet. Disformation and Sicklucker had a moment somewhere in the thread, right before I voted ExO. I think those 2 were helping each other progress their reads, it felt TvT.
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On December 23 2016 07:01 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 23 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote:
I mean koshi you're all over the place on rels/ls but you're going to ignore the fact that kmatt has lied about the night thing potentially since he's actually posted at night and played a game here before while posting at night.
He had no scum reads because he forgot his actual list. I had to remind him of sicklucker which he drops like a lead balloon for absolutely 0 reason despite maintaining it's scummy?
He mentions me as a scum read but hops on any wagon possible despite TOWN READING ls on day 1 and then making a throwaway comment to hop on.
He leaves the thread after doing nothing.
So much shit here. In all honesty. I started the day doing random shit because I didn't want a stale day waiting for a guy that might not show up. Wasting us a day. I don't know where we are now. My own feelings say Rels/LS but it makes more sense it is LS/Kmatt. Problem is that both sicklucker and Rels are pointing fingers at 2 people I think are town (hf & disfo) and somewhere I can see them be a team very maybe? Even though the more logical solution is both town? If 1 of them is mafia the other one is playing really badly I think. atm I don't see hf or disfo be mafia. hf based on activity and game progressing. disfo based on his last 160 posts. If they are mafia I am ok with losing to them because they simply played way better than the average townie.
why are me and rels the same person in your mind? I havent even said I town read him in awile or made any comments on him
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yeah I can remember talking with SL a bit and that felt pretty good.
Don't think it is impossible for him to be scum, but really unlikely.
So I really think it is 2 of Rels/LS/Kmatt.
And I agree Rels is really good if he puts time/effort into the game.
Kmatt just confuses the living hell out of me atm. Like cant figure out if this is how he rolls as town or if he is trying to yolo wtf his way through another day.
though to be honest, after scrolling a bit through LS filter again I really didn't like most of it.
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I wish we just could lynch both of kmatt and LS today. xD
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but no way ill kill rels before ls and kmart. no way in hell we do that
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