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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:14 GMT
#371
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#374
On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

Such a drag with you this game...

Again.. Why would he move his vote from Rels to you if he is mafia? Why bother? Clearly something happened and he liked it and decided to move his vote, knowing I was fighting about you with Rels there is a big chance something did change for him and he swapped his vote around.

It is more likely he is town for this, than mafia. Also, the way Alakaslam came in the thread voting Rels with actual reasoning is pretty good stuff. It is true that Rels is a wafflemaster this game and that there is a very prudent feeling behind his posts and that we all like our shit easy. Posts like "I think X is obvious mafia and reason Y and Z proof that". Nothing like that from Rels. Alakaslam saw that and voted Rels. I am ok with it.



Anyway. Why you can't make thoughtful posts bothers me. Light some fireworks in your ass and type things that are out there. So I can see you are actually thinking about things.


On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

Also the bolded........ Almost nothing there except 1 post about Kmatt maybe being town which was fine. But the other post was him completely ignoring my bad "town case" on Exo and asking why I had a feeling he could be mafia....... While Exo is his nr 1 "certain" scumread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:26 GMT
#375
On December 20 2016 20:21 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:01 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:44 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote:
^^ ok

See vote thread

Goodnight people

On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:09 Rels wrote:
On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote:
Rels is too unsure in the wrong places.

Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot.


Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote.

(I did this at 2AM but whatever.)

What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ?

some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing.

I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator.

Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through

like what could I even mean

Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded.


Expand on it?

I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural

That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say.

So I guess I am disagreeing with slam here. Imo Rels posts sounded good until he starts talking about me.

Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:16 disformation wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:14 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 20:13 disformation wrote:
one thing confuses me about slam.
He jumps into the thread, with an bad vibe on rels and votes him, over rels post on me. Which I can kinda understand.
Then Rels changes the conclusion on me and Slam unvotes Rels and votes me. I don't think Slam has ever mentioned me besides "yo rels I dont like your stuff on disfo"?

Your point?

*sigh* should probably said so the first time. xD

I am not 100% sure cause his points on rels arent bad and I might be biased.
But I get a bit of an opportunistic feeling of of this. As in: he might not be looking for scum, but for an ml.

What the fuck am I even doing this game. xD

scumclaiming in my eyes. It's really annoying.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#376
On December 20 2016 18:07 Koshi wrote:
Disformation / Rels should maybe be lynched into. Sicklucker as backup?

Who are the terrible towns?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:30 GMT
#377
pls stahp being terrible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 11:35 GMT
#379
On December 20 2016 20:32 disformation wrote:
hardclaiming terrible town. maybe the others can cc me and we fight to the death?

Good job going for the easy answer on that post and completely ignore the analysis I made on Alakaslam being more likely town for that change of vote. Which is the opposite conclusion you had on that "event".


Such a drag.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:05 GMT
#400
I am not pushing you. Last games you can always be mafia and therefore always up for lynch. It's the baddies that leave you alone for "meta reasons".
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:25 GMT
#415
On December 20 2016 21:22 sicklucker wrote:
but you are voting me over scum reads. literraly pushing me

pressure and pushing is something completely different.
And I would not shed a tear if you would die.
Although this mindmeld thing with Rels is interesting.

Now I can lynch you before Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:26 GMT
#416
On December 20 2016 21:23 sicklucker wrote:
koshi I dont mean to be mean but your the worst person at reading me. in my first 3 games against you I was mafia in all of them and you gave me strong town reads. Since then with the exception of last game I have always been town and you always think im mafia at some point ;p

These are probably lies so I don't give a fuck.

Last game you were mafia and I correctly put you near the top of my list. The games before that I was 3 times mafia and it was you who townread me. And then the games before that are already 8 months ago so fuck off.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:26 GMT
#417
Ohno. I was even 4 times mafia in a row.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:30 GMT
#418
9.disformation
5.sicklucker
2.ExO_
8. Kmatt
6.Rels
7.Holyflare
1.Alakaslam
4.LightningStrike


I am here atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:33 GMT
#419
I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:34 GMT
#420
On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote:
On December 20 2016 08:34 Rels wrote:
I was disliking the push on ExO at first because I witnessed first hand that ExO can be heavily tilted as town. But exo might be scum actually.

On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote:
I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo.

On December 20 2016 18:57 Rels wrote:
I don't know if I want to lynch disfo. There are things in his filter might indicate him as scum (not his hedging, he's known to do that as town): his first post, his "HF point on me is good" post, his very bad reasonning on SL on Slam. But there are things that are good like this post:

These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would.

The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling.

You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that.



your right thats why my rels holyfalre and kmatt are town and your just a bad scummer =]

On December 20 2016 21:19 sicklucker wrote:
or just a bad!

On December 20 2016 21:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 20:30 Koshi wrote:
pls stahp being terrible.


Calling me mafia into the double backdown. good stuff.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:34 GMT
#421
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 12:58 GMT
#426
On December 20 2016 21:37 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 21:34 Koshi wrote:
Like who is mafia with Exo at this point?

More likely someone not voting ExO_

ughhhh. you keep doing this thing in which you refuse to play the game and think further. Why can't you give some fucking analysis instead of this shitty one liner.

Or

Can't you go look if sicklucker his posts add up around Rels. I feel like he already read everything before he "mindmelded" with Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:07 GMT
#429
Everything is wrong on Disformation. It's insane.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:11 GMT
#430
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:21 GMT
#433
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#436
On December 20 2016 22:23 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:11 Koshi wrote:
I can see so many easy partners with disformation as well.

How Rels waffled 2 times on disformation, and even in his Exo vote said something about disformation. Or was that another post?

Sicklucker same. He just forces the pressure away from disformation and puts it somewhere else on a very unnatural way .


I had the feeling the lynch needed to be within these 3 names quite early and for some reason they all 3 can't push away the feeling they are mafia. Rels was the closest.

since I am town. that should make them more town, since they legit dont know my aligment?
doesnt make much sense for them to waffle about me as scum right? just line me up as a ML?
though rels is kinda doing that with his waffling...

If you are town. This is what is happening:

Town is pushing a ml (Koshi and HF)
Mafia is pushing a ml (Exo)


Now mafia can still be within many names. Some more likely than others.



But it is fucking time to put on your big boy shoes and somehow show that you are solving this game. And you do that by showing that every post you make, even if it is only 1-2 lines.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
December 20 2016 13:26 GMT
#437
On December 20 2016 22:25 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2016 22:21 Koshi wrote:
disformation, if you are not mafia, there is without a single piece of doubt, mafia within Rels/Sicklucker. Maybe even both.


I stopped believing Exo is mafia.


That's a terrible thing to do.

Sure, but I need to live in that world right now.
I had a good night of sleep.
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