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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 03:20 GMT
#2721
why do feel to need to check in if your just gonna leave?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 03:23 GMT
#2722
i thought the seahawks game would be over when i got home, but it isn't.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2016 03:35 GMT
#2723
On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Tell me why I'm wrong, then

because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game.

Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school.


That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead?

The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you.

I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that.

Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already?
I'm adorable.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 03:37 GMT
#2724
On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Tell me why I'm wrong, then

because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game.

Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school.


That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead?

The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you.

I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that.

Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already?

oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 03:40 GMT
#2725
because vivax is scum 100% you god damn fool
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 03:45 GMT
#2726
gb, why are you more interested in being right than convincing people why iamp is scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 03:56 GMT
#2727
i caught up in the thread and read bill murray's filter while watching the game. that's a minor level of devotion.

i have concluded that bill murray is pretty useless, but town. mostly cuz he was bragging about the TT wagon and claiming credit for it pre-lynch, which doesnt make much sense for mafia to do when they know town is about to die.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 04:12 GMT
#2728
a tie.....fml
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:18 GMT
#2729
I'm trying to figure out who and/or what to read.
I am around for a while now.

Iamp your thoughts on Artanis/GB/Tolk?

For the record I still feel like Tolk has a higher chance of being town than GB. I believe he truly feels like he is a useful member of the town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:22 GMT
#2730
Jeez did I call Lunaticman a fun-sucker already?
He reminds me exactly of JAT.

Anyway, he's literally just sat on Koshi all game. I don't think there is a single post in his filter that doesn't mention him. What a hard-on this dude has.

After the night kills though his activity and rabidity has dropped off completely. He didn't attempt to push Koshi ONCE since the start of the day, and there is no reason in his filter for it whatsoever. I wonder what changed exactly for him...

This bothers me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
October 24 2016 04:23 GMT
#2731
this game is kinda hard to read and find mafia for me tbh. i feel like a lot of people are trying to nickle and dime other people and there isn't a whole ton of meat and potatoes to work with. i am probably guilty of this too, but at least i have the i suck cuz i haven't played excuse.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:25 GMT
#2732
Like...potential play as scum here reads something like: 'Stick on Koshi and don't ever talk about anyone else basically so I can't be responsible for wrong/weird/scummy views on anyone else. Low hanging shitty-play-Koshi fruit is easy. Day 2 now, welp, we're losing a scummer and I can't really push Koshi 'cause it'll look bad to deflect the sure lynch, and nobody's paying attention to me anyway'

As town it's: 'KOSHI SCUMRAWRAWRAWRAWRAWRAWR--------*crickets*'


And I can't tell what is more likely to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:26 GMT
#2733
On October 24 2016 13:23 ritoky wrote:
this game is kinda hard to read and find mafia for me tbh. i feel like a lot of people are trying to nickle and dime other people and there isn't a whole ton of meat and potatoes to work with. i am probably guilty of this too, but at least i have the i suck cuz i haven't played excuse.

So let's fix this then, huh? Football game's over.
Who's scum for you right now?
Let's hunt some red.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2016 04:27 GMT
#2734
On October 24 2016 12:45 ritoky wrote:
gb, why are you more interested in being right than convincing people why iamp is scum?


Because being right means iamp is scum
I don't understand your question
I'm adorable.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 04:29 GMT
#2735
On October 24 2016 12:56 ritoky wrote:
i caught up in the thread and read bill murray's filter while watching the game. that's a minor level of devotion.

i have concluded that bill murray is pretty useless, but town. mostly cuz he was bragging about the TT wagon and claiming credit for it pre-lynch, which doesnt make much sense for mafia to do when they know town is about to die.

ya i saw that too
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
October 24 2016 04:29 GMT
#2736
On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Tell me why I'm wrong, then

because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game.

Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school.


That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead?

The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you.

I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that.

Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already?

oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting.


?
You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here
I'm adorable.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 04:29 GMT
#2737
On October 24 2016 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:

For the record I still feel like Tolk has a higher chance of being town than GB. I believe he truly feels like he is a useful member of the town.

wat why
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:30 GMT
#2738
Yeah I've been town on him for a while.
Plus he tends just to disappear completely when he's scum too.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9645 Posts
October 24 2016 04:31 GMT
#2739
On October 24 2016 13:29 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 12:37 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2016 12:35 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2016 11:47 iamperfection wrote:
On October 24 2016 11:40 GlowingBear wrote:
Tell me why I'm wrong, then

because its bascially sayim im scum for thinking you could be scum for doing jack shit. You even admidt to not doing shit go read you own page 1 filter what are people supposed to think. Now i think i may be on to something with that question you have to holy. Vigs need to shoot useless liabilities to town there is no other way to deal with them and we are all basically semi vigs in this game.

Now if you actually think the person with the longest filter in the game has cared about the lynch has clearly been trying to figure out peoples alignments who has a meta where they are much less Spamy as scum and has pretty much lead town completely is scum you need to go back to newbie school.


That's not what I'm saying.

What I'm saying is: if you have 4 skills to use, each one with a determined purpose that could help town (like, investigation skills, roleblock skills etc.), why wasting your actions to deal small damages to a player instead?

The choice of dealing damage instead of using one of those skills have a much clearer mafia motivation than town motivation. It's a simple excuse for Mafia: *picks an easy target* "we have to kill this useless player" - wastes whole cycles to have a townie killed and doesn't get suspicions drawn to you.

I'd expect a townie to use his skills in a more pro-town agenda. You're not doing that.

Btw, why shooting me and lynching Vivax? If I'm such a liability, why not getting rid of me already?

oh you can use your abilities all at once that's interesting.


?
You need to choose between using your skills or doing basic damage. That's how it works here

yeah but my abilities only unlock as the game progresses like the example role pm yours dont.........?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 24 2016 04:31 GMT
#2740
On October 24 2016 13:29 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 13:18 WaveofShadow wrote:

For the record I still feel like Tolk has a higher chance of being town than GB. I believe he truly feels like he is a useful member of the town.

wat why

On October 23 2016 02:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2016 01:31 Tubesock wrote:
On October 23 2016 01:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
There definitely something fishy going on with the targets on me but of the three the only one I do think for sure is town is LT.

This fits with how hes played in past games with me. Just wish he'd be more useful

SL or HF could be faking damage or one of them could have been RBed (HF most likely).


Can you explain this please? (Just the LT part)

He gets his hackles up all the time cause I call him scum a lot. He's also a pretty vindictive guy in general when we play games together (we also DnD), and while I suppose it's not alignment indicative overall for him to retaliate against me, in his case specifically I believe he believes it's the right thing to do.

He's also a highly strategic person and I don't believe as scum he would think the best use of his limited role KP would be to hit me as I don't feel like I'm a threat to anyone at the moment.

That will change though :D :D :D

This was the post I originally made to Tubesock on the matter. Still feels mostly right to me.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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