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On October 24 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E.
This I agree with. I don't think there's much downside to it. Outside some crazy mechanic.
On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Not only am I confirmed town for having a double lynch. I am also confirmed town for how many people are jumping on this while I am not even up for discussion to be lynched today. People just want to see it fail.
Haha no way man. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of this ability.
On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker
I can see arguments for everyone but Acrofoles. Why Acro? Hell, what's your reasons on SL too?
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On October 24 2016 03:53 Dandel Ion wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 03:46 sicklucker wrote:
pretty much any attack made needs to be claimed after the fact if your town. I snap claimed my attack. We can literally figure out who town are by seeing who was attacked by mafia. This would force mafia to make claims that dont make anysense. like someone not scum reading me attacking me it also means scum know anybody who didnt claim attacks was doing something else, probably something more useful even :/
I dont think this games like that. I think each player as close to equal skills maybe mafia is stronger none have flipped yet
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On October 24 2016 06:17 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 08:19 Koshi wrote:
Also can the people who did damage on me claim? I got over 30. Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 08:20 Koshi wrote:
If nobody claims I suggest somebody to check my hp. 99% there is a role like that. It is like a green copcheck. oh cmon people believe already you got damage. No point in calling out a role that can do that. It's not like a green copcheck at all. Sicklucker's dumb to follow you.
how am I dumb I already claimed my role and anyone with ant dota knowledge knew this was already my ability rofl
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I'm mostly getting a TR on ptmc through reading SL's filter. Thanks SL. Also kinda agree on Wave looking meh. This post
On October 21 2016 03:12 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 02:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ughhhhhh game is boring
Can't wait for night phase
I guess I'll make a short list of KP targets for later we should all follow
And if people don't trust me then we can get acro or Dandel or somebody people like to agree with me
Oh also everyone needs to claim damage at phase change
Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post
kill kill murder murder death. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD. more death
"Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post" feels like he's overcompensating a bit.
I guess I'm ok with SL.
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On October 21 2016 17:42 ritoky wrote:
I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic.
Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia.
GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote.
Since both you (Art and Koshi) have played with Ritoky a bunch and are meta-y.
IS this the normal kind of case Ritoky does? I haven't played with him in a longtime but I thought his town posts were much more concise and he always went after people who were "overexplainers". This seems fairly overexplained to me.
He usually does something that I think makes him 100% town, much like he talks about here:
On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote:
1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments.
2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you.
i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many.
But not yet, not sure if htat's due to him not having played and he changed since it's been 6+ months?
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On October 24 2016 06:54 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 17:42 ritoky wrote:
I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic.
Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia.
GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote. Since both you (Art and Koshi) have played with Ritoky a bunch and are meta-y. IS this the normal kind of case Ritoky does? I haven't played with him in a longtime but I thought his town posts were much more concise and he always went after people who were "overexplainers". This seems fairly overexplained to me. He usually does something that I think makes him 100% town, much like he talks about here: Show nested quote +On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote:
1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments.
2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you.
i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many. But not yet, not sure if htat's due to him not having played and he changed since it's been 6+ months?
Last time I waffled on him he was mafia. He felt very agreeable and a bit of a pleaser that game which is not an impression I'm getting from him this game.
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ok great my first reactions to you were you were scum mostly because of hf things. but ill play nice for now. I dont evenm really have a town circle since you morons killed on my of my town reads day 1
Im like pretty sure bill and ptmc are town like 90%. Then I have no clue really just alot of scummy people. Im going to kill some people tomorrow and it will be glorious. I think everyone's reads are bad and alot of the scum are in the active group
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Like people are all calling bill scum and ptmc before I put a stop to that. Also calling me scum. So its hard to trust the other scum reads of any of these people atm
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Hmmmm, if we have a double lynch I think we should kill kurumi today.
K ty
Also: lol everyone trying to use meta on me. That shit doesnt work brah.
Hint: focus on what i do not what i say
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On October 24 2016 06:48 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E. This I agree with. I don't think there's much downside to it. Outside some crazy mechanic. Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Not only am I confirmed town for having a double lynch. I am also confirmed town for how many people are jumping on this while I am not even up for discussion to be lynched today. People just want to see it fail. Haha no way man. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of this ability. I can see arguments for everyone but Acrofoles. Why Acro? Hell, what's your reasons on SL too?
like koshitron? rofl
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On October 24 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'm mostly getting a TR on ptmc through reading SL's filter. Thanks SL. Also kinda agree on Wave looking meh. This post Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:12 sicklucker wrote:On October 21 2016 02:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ughhhhhh game is boring
Can't wait for night phase
I guess I'll make a short list of KP targets for later we should all follow
And if people don't trust me then we can get acro or Dandel or somebody people like to agree with me
Oh also everyone needs to claim damage at phase change
Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post
kill kill murder murder death. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD. more death "Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post" feels like he's overcompensating a bit. I guess I'm ok with SL.
I like WoS the most. The only argument I can really see is that he jumped all over SL's ass for thinking that coordinating attacks was a good idea, yet a couple of Wave's posts prior were exactly that. And then even after he wanted to shoot in a group.
I can see someone saying they just want to post. This game does have some long quiet periods where no one is around.
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On October 24 2016 07:00 sicklucker wrote:
Like people are all calling bill scum and ptmc before I put a stop to that. Also calling me scum. So its hard to trust the other scum reads of any of these people atm
You have to admit, you get called scum every game...You make it tough to read you.
I think ptmc is basically mod confirmed town, so yeah...
Who called Bill scum other than HF (who bascially had him as suspicious)
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On October 24 2016 07:01 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:48 Tubesock wrote:On October 24 2016 06:40 Koshi wrote:
MAYBE JUST FUCKING LET ME DO IT AND THEN JUDGE IF IT WAS WORTH IT OR PRO TOWN OR W.E. This I agree with. I don't think there's much downside to it. Outside some crazy mechanic. On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Not only am I confirmed town for having a double lynch. I am also confirmed town for how many people are jumping on this while I am not even up for discussion to be lynched today. People just want to see it fail. Haha no way man. There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of this ability. On October 24 2016 06:41 Koshi wrote:
Skynx/Luna/Vivax/Acrofoles/sicklucker
I can see arguments for everyone but Acrofoles. Why Acro? Hell, what's your reasons on SL too? like koshitron? rofl
Huh?
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Btdt
If you're going to do a catchup
For the love of God don't post 30 times
Just put it all in one post.
It's ridiculous
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Its what i call PADDING FILTERS
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On October 24 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wr9ote:I'm mostly getting a TR on ptmc through reading SL's filter. Thanks SL. Also kinda agree on Wave looking meh. This post Show nested quote +On October 21 2016 03:12 sicklucker wrote:On October 21 2016 02:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ughhhhhh game is boring
Can't wait for night phase
I guess I'll make a short list of KP targets for later we should all follow
And if people don't trust me then we can get acro or Dandel or somebody people like to agree with me
Oh also everyone needs to claim damage at phase change
Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post
kill kill murder murder death. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD. more death "Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post" feels like he's overcompensating a bit. I guess I'm ok with SL.
Hey man, you're supposed to keep our bedroom knowledge inside the bedroom!
But srsly, overcompensating for what exactly? For not having anything to say? For not accomplishing much? Because you're probably right. Does your comment mean anything or go anywhere?
NARP
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On October 24 2016 06:56 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:54 Tubesock wrote:On October 21 2016 17:42 ritoky wrote:
I think the 2 best candidates for lynch who are outside of policy-sub/modkill range are GB and Lunatic.
Lunatic's case is pretty simple: I don't think he believes or cares very much about his reads. He has said Koshi is mafia since his first post for essentially being Koshi. But he hasn't made any real substantive push to try and convince people to get on board his Koshi lynch, he has just kind of left it sitting there passively. I don't even know the details of why he believes Koshi is mafia, but he says it so much in his filter that you would think he is tunneled. But then you read his filter and he doesn't seem tunneled at all, he isn't working to get people on board his target; I think he doesn't particularly care to lynch scum. There's something funky with his HF read, primarily with its basis being garbage. He town reads him, then flips basically because of omgus, then apparently wants to lynch HF but treats him like Koshi. HF not pushing back to the point of trying to lynch Luna over this hot trash read gives me some pause, but at least he called him likely mafia.
GB is a variety of things. He is overall underwhelming thus far. He didn't show any excitement I was in the game. I don't see any of his spastic town/trying to make a play town tendencies. His just agree with HF rather than try to engage him to get a read seems off and like it may come from a place of extra information. He stated a placeholder vote, when I feel like town GB would more likely use his vote as a weapon to gauge reaction rather than literally tell me he wasn't serious about his vote. Since both you (Art and Koshi) have played with Ritoky a bunch and are meta-y. IS this the normal kind of case Ritoky does? I haven't played with him in a longtime but I thought his town posts were much more concise and he always went after people who were "overexplainers". This seems fairly overexplained to me. He usually does something that I think makes him 100% town, much like he talks about here: On October 23 2016 04:54 ritoky wrote:
1) because while other people think it is stupid and have told me so on multiple occasions and lynched me over it; i am a firm believer in the game philosophy that 1 moment in someone's filter can make them irrevocably town or mafia. i think this is especially the case with new players. many people lose sight of a moment of clarity over the course of 10 days as it gets muddled in shitwater; i try to hold on to those moments.
2) it's 100 pages, i don't remember who started trains that 15 people agree on, maybe it was you. but what you said about those trains i had read before from multiple people. so basically what i am saying is it didn't advance my opinion to a new understanding about the players you were scum reading, and didn't spark interest/awareness; it simply re-hashed whats already been said. it also lacked an a-ha or keen observation which would make me think "wow btdt is really looking at this game critically, damn sooooo town." so basically it didn't adjust my read on your scum reads or you.
i do like that you care about your reads though, that's more than many. But not yet, not sure if htat's due to him not having played and he changed since it's been 6+ months? Last time I waffled on him he was mafia. He felt very agreeable and a bit of a pleaser that game which is not an impression I'm getting from him this game.
Can you show me where he's not being very agreeable and a bit of a pleaser?
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On October 24 2016 07:16 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Its what i call PADDING FILTERS
Tolk
Are you going to play?
Because it would be nice if you helped out.
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On October 24 2016 07:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Hmmmm, if we have a double lynch I think we should kill kurumi today.
K ty
Also: lol everyone trying to use meta on me. That shit doesnt work brah.
Hint: focus on what i do not what i say
So..... Nothing?
I could kill Kurumi at this point though.
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On October 24 2016 07:06 Tubesock wrote:Show nested quote +On October 24 2016 06:53 Artanis[Xp] wrote:I'm mostly getting a TR on ptmc through reading SL's filter. Thanks SL. Also kinda agree on Wave looking meh. This post On October 21 2016 03:12 sicklucker wrote:On October 21 2016 02:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ughhhhhh game is boring
Can't wait for night phase
I guess I'll make a short list of KP targets for later we should all follow
And if people don't trust me then we can get acro or Dandel or somebody people like to agree with me
Oh also everyone needs to claim damage at phase change
Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post
kill kill murder murder death. BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD. more death "Oh also I dunno I can't think of anything to say I just want to post" feels like he's overcompensating a bit. I guess I'm ok with SL. I like WoS the most. The only argument I can really see is that he jumped all over SL's ass for thinking that coordinating attacks was a good idea, yet a couple of Wave's posts prior were exactly that. And then even after he wanted to shoot in a group. I can see someone saying they just want to post. This game does have some long quiet periods where no one is around.
Wat.
When did I not agree that coordinating attacks is a good idea? I've been pushing for it all game. If you're talking about when I called out SL, reading comprehension.
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