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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 12 2016 16:51 GMT
#80
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 16 2016 19:12 GMT
#315
I'm quite a few pages behind still - let me try to catch up - Shape feels much different then his last game though is one thing I noted - either town or trying to change his meta hard

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 16 2016 19:23 GMT
#316
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null

GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information

Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.

Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 16 2016 19:26 GMT
#318
On February 16 2016 20:31 Palmar wrote:
List of mafia:

Trfel for TMI on my alignment and something I can't remember
Breshke for 100% mafia
Tumblewood for complaining
sicklucker for complaining about useless day
Tictock for sheeping other people when he knows he's best player


Who should we start with first?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 16 2016 19:32 GMT
#319
Because he's got his townie care free attitude -

calling multiple mafia reads
too many scumreads

and the below-

On February 17 2016 01:35 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 01:26 nooniansoong wrote:
PALMAR
I don't agree with Trfel's meta of palmar.
Nothing about palmar seems townie to me. His reads are lazy or don't make sense.
On February 16 2016 20:31 Palmar wrote:
List of mafia:

Trfel for TMI on my alignment and something I can't remember
Breshke for 100% mafia
Tumblewood for complaining
sicklucker for complaining about useless day
Tictock for sheeping other people when he knows he's best player


SL
Seems to be playing the "tooscummytobescum" card
He wants to kill Eden because he "claimed VT" is wrong for town and easy for scum.

essentially I'm confirmed town now. Kush under this nick has 100% record of being completely fucking wrong on me, so thanks bro.


Which is true.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 17 2016 03:45 GMT
#433
Catching up ---

On February 17 2016 08:14 Trfel wrote:
Oh yeah, and people get mad at me when I say who I'm suspicious of without posting reasons.

The Shining still hasn't come back, to me this makes his posts feel a bit dry. Suddenly vanishing, in addition to still not having come back, while seeming to be interested in his sicklucker read earlier, feels off to me, however it's quite early in the game and it's possible that he's just suddenly busy or a bit disinterested for some reason.

Don't forget about the Shining's Monday/Tuesday no net thing.

On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle

what does a truffle sound like?

truffle sounds like a truffle in this game

#circularreasoningftw

also not lynching a breshke...so i saw the points on shapelog, eden...the thing that was bugging me about his posting was it almost seemed over the top, like he's trying to sound cheery when he isn't. also, he clearly didn't understand what you were getting at lol >< if he didn't realize that any millers in the game would be aware millers

disclaimer: i don't think i've ever played with shapelog, so the toneread is meh probably. for those who have played with him, is he always this OMG OMG sunshine!!! hahahaha!

2nd disclaimer: dumbtell lol...of course scum can also fail to read the op but eh


Why don't you want to lynch breshke?

You really didn't say anything here. I think you're aware of that...

On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote:
@rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum).
The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive.


So this post from TW is slightly better - he gives his thoughts on what he's thinking - and beyond Breshke since he doesn't know his posting very well, I can agree with quite a bit of it. Maybe TW did roll town this game.

On February 17 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 11:10 Trfel wrote:
On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle

what does a truffle sound like?

truffle sounds like a truffle in this game

#circularreasoningftw
And you say that my reads are useless...


lol yeah it's like your palmar one i know ^^

i can explain it more...essentially you approached eden in a way that meets my understanding of your core personality, in the way that you're apologetic and deferential and, yes, self-depreciating

this is something i see way more often in your town games than in your scum games (though i don't remember ever seeing it in your scum games lol >< except maybe in a wall of text buried somewhere)

like, seriously >< you sit there and tell me in your last game where your reads were mostly spot on that you're doing something wrong because you can't get people to listen to you? lol where is the fun TL mafia arrogance the rest of us have? but it's what makes truffle a truffle


Thank you for explaining this -

I'd move TW slightly up and maybe noon - and I thought I had too many scumreads like Palmar... The nulls are well still nully - but I think GB has ample opportunity to come back, and Shining should be back in the morning too.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 17 2016 16:10 GMT
#551
On February 17 2016 14:46 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 17 2016 14:42 rsoultin wrote:
On February 17 2016 04:23 scott31337 wrote:
Palmar/Shape/Trfel leaning town
Rsoul/TT lighter not has hard but townside of null

GB/Noon/Shining/SL - not enough information

Tumble/Breshke leaning mafia since Tumble looks just like his last game I played with him - and Breshke should have more
light and shining and it's just not there.

Eden usually shits town rainbows but there's a lot of fluff in his filter - so I'm still on the fence on him - wouldn't be the lynch today


ye no explanation that's what i remembered


Ah yeah the no explanation is questionable. I dont want to give him an out here but you have approx the same filter length as someone else higher up on his town list, Shape. Maybe he doesn't think you're quite spamming yet?

Scott, are these 2 spamming?


Rsoul's a little spammy but she does give out information, is the difference. When she's spammy and doesn't give out any information, especially when asked multiple times, is when it scares me and why I call her mafia for it.

Shapelog's posting has been quite different from the last game I just played with him (content, involvement etc.) is why I gave him the town read for now.

GB gets my vote for now.

I'm at page 23 but have to travel for work a bit - I'll be back before deadline though.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 17 2016 17:05 GMT
#572
On February 17 2016 17:20 Eden1892 wrote:
Don't like Shining's reads now that I bothered to read the larger post.

Not with the conclusions -- nobody is screaming lock-scum to me either -- but it felt like he came to null/null-ish conclusions about several players despite posting enough info to come to a firmer conclusion.

Like comparing his reads to mine, since we both ended up not having a lot of clear suspects, I make it clear what I find suspicious or not suspicious about people, and what I find validating or not validating about people. People don't do scummy and townie things, or at least, I don't think they have yet in this game. Look at this...

Show nested quote +
Tictock - I kinda liked TT for town at the beginning tbh, but his recent posting worried me and made me backtrack. His early posts were short but the tone seemed pretty relaxed from the jokes with Shapelog, while also mixing some good posts, mainly the one about Trfel and his TR on him. I'm still working on my Trfel read due to how he's treating me, but I will say I really liked TT's Eden read and see pretty much what he sees. His GB read seemed pretty accurate, too, I've also played with a lackadaiscal, non-caring GB town multiple times before which has ended in GB being prime lynchbait. I could probably see where he's coming from, though I wish GB would actually play. What I don't like is TT immediately calling his GB read shit because of a one-liner from Kush in which Kush didn't even explain WHY that TR was bad. Also a red flag is the fact that I can't really find where or who TT is scumreading. The closest thing is a list of people that need to post more, myself included. I feel like TT would be more confident and focused on finding scum after his last good performance. The line "I don't have any strong scumreads but I'm pretty confident we'll hit scum" feels off. Slight scumread here, since imo scum is a lot better at giving townreads as opposed to fabricating scumreads.


Basically, he lists a lot of reasons to like Tictock. He likes Tictock's town reads, and maybe only has real issues with how Tictock came to the GB read. But then he says that because Tictock doesn't have clear scumreads, that Tictock is a scum lean? I don't get how a guy can be considered to be pretty townie based off of having a lot of reasonable townreads, but then can end up being net-scummy due to not having clear scumreads.

It'd seem to me that you would conclude that the unclear scum reads is a big red flag, mafia can just make up reasons to townread people (especially if you agree with those reads and think the people being townread are actually town, then they're just saying correct things which is easy to do), and so the townreads don't mean anything and he's clear scum.

Or, you would say that the townreads are a great reason to townread him early, because they make sense and show that he's engaged with the game. At that point, it would be more reasonable to assume that a relative lack of scumreads is the byproduct of an early game without anybody doing anything obviously suspicious, and is NAI.

But surely you can't just say both things and call it virtually a wash (slight scum lean)? If either of them didn't matter you would conclude the other one is important and read Tictock accordingly. If both didn't matter then you would just not have a read. And they're not really constructed in a way that you can think both do matter -- since both of them are good reasons to read someone a certain way, and both lead to divergent conclusions, it stands to reason that one of them is wrong and thus shouldn't matter, and that, coming to this realization, you would review the player and decide which one matters.

I felt several of his reads that conclude null/null-ish have similar issues: he describes various behaviors by the player that look like they would be alignment-indicative, but they conclude opposite things, so instead of digging into the players in more depth and detail to resolve the divergent conclusions, he just calls them "null" overall even though they shouldn't be null. He's cited enough behaviors to come to some conclusion about a player, but then manages not to do so.

Coupled with the posting style -- few, longer posts, with minimal proactive interaction -- I'm actually inclined to think this guy could be a good lynch.


Phone posting, but this is the Eden I've been waiting for. Marked for later, Eden goes into the townhouse.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 18 2016 00:01 GMT
#980
On February 18 2016 05:59 disformation wrote:
Vote Count - Day 1


Palmar (4): nooniansoong, sicklucker, Shapelog, rsoultin, sicklucker, Tictock, Eden1892, Tumblewood
scott31337 (4): sicklucker, Trfel, Breshke, rsoultin, sicklucker
GlowingBear(2): nooniansoong, scott31337, nooniansoong
Breshke(1): Palmar
Tumblewood (1): The Shining, sicklucker
nooniansoong (1): GlowinBear
Trfel (0): Shapelog
Eden1892 (0): Trfel, sicklucker
Sicklucker(0): Tictock, Palmar, GlowingBear, Shapelog
The Shining (0): Eden1892, sicklucker
Shapelog (0): rsoultin, Trfel, nooniansoong, Breshke, Tumblewood

Not Voting (0):

At this time, Palmar is slated to be lynched.
Day 1 ends in on 21:00 GMT (+00:00).

The voting thread is here.
Only votes there will be counted.


I just got back I've been running around for work and just got home - great, it was town on town and now I have
to shit some magical rainbows or the scummers are going to get me next - and I wasn't around to change my vote.

I still have 20 pages to catch up, dinner to cook and beer to drink after a long day...
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 19 2016 16:52 GMT
#1272
So GB fakeclaimed - lovely - I think he's stirring the pot

Shining looks legit

I love how rsoul still wants me dead
I had a dream last night she was mafia with Trfel and GB so it must be true
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 20 2016 19:33 GMT
#1425
On February 21 2016 02:52 rsoultin wrote:
seriously, i'm leaving for D&D and lunch now

but here's my problem, truffle, shape, everyone

i have been trying very hard to ignore and not get pissed off at all the scumreads over paranoia, unicorns and rainbows, toilet paper and farts on the wind. you may notice how little i've even said anything about any of it >< but it does piss me the fuck off that i can't even play a game on this site anymore without everyone suspecting me all the time for NOTHING, because YOU PEOPLE think i'm capable of anything as scum

i can't be here next cycle for EoD. if we lynch town here and you fucktards persist on scumreading me over paranoia, town will 100% lose this game without lynching a single scum, and the only thing i hate worse than being mislynched is being mislynched in fucking lylo by my friends and hard townreads ><

this is EXACTLY why i stopped playing while in school last year

so if you idiots can't figure out how to play mafia and actually make reads based on more than OMG rsoul looks town but she could be MAFIAS! cause -insert tunneled narrative w/ no evidence- or -she looks town but she can do anything as mafia- do it now

breshke
shinking
truffle
shape

right now. lynch me now so i don't have to put more emotion/effort into a game and let my schoolwork suffer when you're gonna lynch me anyway for nothing but paranoia ^^

or grow a couple brain cells and learn to fucking play the game

cause i tell you one thing, i will 100% not fight any fucking lynch on me anymore that is over paranoia. it's not worth it, not the tears, the headaches, or the potential ulcers

if you have a REAL accusation or question i'll address it but i will 100% let you fucktards lynch me over nothing without lifting a god-damn finger if you persist on this idiocy

and i strongly suggest you do it today rather than in lylo ^^ i'll call you all idiots and bad either way but at least this way you'll have another chance at actually winning the game

shape, i can just read how things will go >< and i'm not going to simply not go to school next cycle just so we don't lose the game because y'all are being morons. so yes, i'm angry. and yes, if you're gonna push me over unsupported narrative bullshit instead of actually playing the game, pull the trigger now so you have a chance to get out of your fucking demented tunneled mindset where you're playing off of WRONG pre-flipped associations ^^

i'll be back before flip -_-


AtE but I'll let you slide for this - if your mafia you pulled my strings to win and I'll never play with you again.

##Vote: Glowingbear

I don't have time today so if you need to lynch me, lynch me - I'm VT.
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 22 2016 18:50 GMT
#1634
So let me get some thoughts out on the thread - today's been busy but I'm mostly caught up at work (not with the thread though)

GB was mafia - good job
I am feeling better about noonian since of his vote and stances

the NK's are straight forward unless we hit mafia which kind of sucks, so lets some of the spammier people get a free pass, but it is what it is.

I'll try to get some more thoughts out and re-read Breshke's filter and go from there. Sorry I've been pretty slack but after I eat I should have some time if I dont get any more tickets.

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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
February 22 2016 18:59 GMT
#1635
No scrumreads? I have Breshke still as one and I'm voting for him - the thing is, who would the second one be?

Tictock is trying to solve the game - he feels town - he could go after me and he's not, he's looking at VCA/etc

Noon went after me the same way last game and he was town - voted GB day 1 with me (but was it when it wouldn't matter? I'm doubtful)

I've given up on Rsoul, she did the AtE on me and like I said with that crap I have to say she's town and I'll never play with her again if she isn't.

Breshke makes the most sense to me, he's felt off since Day 1. Palmar mindmeld

The other scum is the one I'm having difficulties figuring out - every one else has townpoints for them. I mean Tumble's massive notes as scum? lol
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
March 01 2016 00:41 GMT
#1972
After rsoul was still alive d5 over noon - lol

Poor Breshke hope all is well

TT did pretty well

I'm done for awhile - maybe obs some games but that's it.
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