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On February 17 2016 11:40 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 11:28 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 11:22 Trfel wrote: I wasn't asking for an explanation, I was mentioning something that I thought was funny....
Anyway, I'm nearly caught up, so then I can go through the thread and once again completely fail to find mafia! Looking forward to it!
Does anyone have someone they'd like me to give additional attention to? Maybe sicklucker and Palmar? lol >< no one is commenting on my shape toneread it's making me itch you think hes town right? nothing new me and everyone aparently does
Why do you think shape is town?
I remember you declaring it before, but I didn't really see why.
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On February 17 2016 12:00 sicklucker wrote:Trefel your a pretty cool guy and the only one who even voted anyone AT ALL besides me and maybe kush. You two are likely to be town for that i think. I mean ive never been in a game where no one at all voted tho so i donno.. I may not be doing much but I at least voted early for information to you konw.. + Show Spoiler +
I've never understood why there is this idea that people should vote early and often. Like i get the idea behind pressure votes but especially D1 votes are usually a hodgepodge with everyone being all over the place until the last couple hours.
Well for me personally I find I tend to play better when I'm not trying to drop a vote with the first decent looking case that is brought up and instead focus a little more on my reads. Again, this is moreso in regards to D1-2. Later in the game it's easier and probably better to get the ball rolling with votes since there is already plenty to go on.
Sorry, /rant
I'd like to know what(if any) info you got from your vote SL.
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On February 17 2016 12:00 rsoultin wrote: can we lynch shape?
-bats lashes at-
alternatively, if we're lynching players with pre-game excuses, gb is always fun to lynch lol
Didn't you suggest GB play even though he said he was going to have issues with time this game?
Although now that I think about it, if GB's play thus far is any indication of how he will continue to play he might not be a terrible Plynch even if he does flip town.
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On February 17 2016 13:02 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 12:03 Trfel wrote:On February 16 2016 06:13 rsoultin wrote:On February 16 2016 06:12 The Shining wrote:On February 16 2016 06:04 sicklucker wrote: Dear diary
Today I woke up exited to play a game of mafia! Then I looked at the playerlist .. and I was how do you say it. Scared of spam and having alot to read. I also had alot of anxiety about jat calling me names i'm a very fragile emotional person. I hope gb has time because last game he was useless and now I here hes not going have much time again. But you /in'd last. The player list was the same when you did. Why are you just now experiencing these fears? he is the hero town doesn't deserve shining-san ^^ keep up! Like, right after this, The Shining vanished until I asked him a question. And then vanished again. It feels like his will to play, his desire to be involved, stopped after he got townread. See what I'm getting at? Hello. Phone post. I was townread? By who? I just got home and have a few hours to kill before bedtime, stuff I will do. Impressed you will be. I do like how Trfel brings up my Monday/Tuesday meta excuse but then starts pushing me because I made a few posts after realizing this game started, then went to live life. Seems counter intuitive to bring it up, call it NAI, then push it because I'm not here on days I'm known to not be here.
OMG Scum claim right there. Implying that life is more important than this game...
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On February 17 2016 13:58 Trfel wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2016 13:47 The Shining wrote:On February 17 2016 13:43 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 12:45 scott31337 wrote:Catching up --- On February 17 2016 08:14 Trfel wrote: Oh yeah, and people get mad at me when I say who I'm suspicious of without posting reasons.
The Shining still hasn't come back, to me this makes his posts feel a bit dry. Suddenly vanishing, in addition to still not having come back, while seeming to be interested in his sicklucker read earlier, feels off to me, however it's quite early in the game and it's possible that he's just suddenly busy or a bit disinterested for some reason. Don't forget about the Shining's Monday/Tuesday no net thing. On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote: not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle
what does a truffle sound like?
truffle sounds like a truffle in this game
#circularreasoningftw
also not lynching a breshke...so i saw the points on shapelog, eden...the thing that was bugging me about his posting was it almost seemed over the top, like he's trying to sound cheery when he isn't. also, he clearly didn't understand what you were getting at lol >< if he didn't realize that any millers in the game would be aware millers
disclaimer: i don't think i've ever played with shapelog, so the toneread is meh probably. for those who have played with him, is he always this OMG OMG sunshine!!! hahahaha!
2nd disclaimer: dumbtell lol...of course scum can also fail to read the op but eh Why don't you want to lynch breshke? You really didn't say anything here. I think you're aware of that... On February 17 2016 11:11 Tumblewood wrote: @rsoul : I the only people I have any real insight on are Trfel, Eden (town), Tictock, kush (townlean), you, Shapelog (null), Palmar, SL (scum). The other four have been too absent for my tastes... Breshke has been moderately active, stay tuned for a filter dive. So this post from TW is slightly better - he gives his thoughts on what he's thinking - and beyond Breshke since he doesn't know his posting very well, I can agree with quite a bit of it. Maybe TW did roll town this game. On February 17 2016 11:17 rsoultin wrote:On February 17 2016 11:10 Trfel wrote:On February 17 2016 09:32 rsoultin wrote: not lynching the truffle ^^ he sounded like a truffle
what does a truffle sound like?
truffle sounds like a truffle in this game
#circularreasoningftw And you say that my reads are useless... lol yeah it's like your palmar one i know ^^ i can explain it more...essentially you approached eden in a way that meets my understanding of your core personality, in the way that you're apologetic and deferential and, yes, self-depreciating this is something i see way more often in your town games than in your scum games (though i don't remember ever seeing it in your scum games lol >< except maybe in a wall of text buried somewhere) like, seriously >< you sit there and tell me in your last game where your reads were mostly spot on that you're doing something wrong because you can't get people to listen to you? lol where is the fun TL mafia arrogance the rest of us have? but it's what makes truffle a truffle Thank you for explaining this -  I'd move TW slightly up and maybe noon - and I thought I had too many scumreads like Palmar... The nulls are well still nully - but I think GB has ample opportunity to come back, and Shining should be back in the morning too. also explained bresh, but basically it's a metaread in that when he's looking at things from all sides and voicing the opposite viewpoint (i.e. devil's advocate) he's pretty much always town...plus just a joy to have around but that's another matter altogether ^^ -pokes- i want to know why my nemesis is townreading me...has the world turned inside-out and upside-down? -throws things at shining- he's got a point. suck it up. you were around when you said you wouldn't be, but then poofed, so ye. i'm more interested in your reads once you catch up with the thread of dinky He would have a point if he hadn't called it NAI beforehand, but then changed his mind because I made like 1 serious post and didnt have time to follow it up. I'm working on a reads post, believe in the shine, I'm actually planning on trying this game because I'm tired of certain people that I've been warned for cursing at constantly calling me useless ^^ How great it would be if he's town and gets carried by me. First, I didn't call you useless  Second, if I were convinced you were scum, I'd be voting for you  Third, smileys are great  Fourth, please, go ahead and carry me, that would also be great  Not quite as great as smileys, though  Fifth, you're misrepresenting my argument, and I've already said what I think about that  But it's fine, since I don't have a very strong argument anyway, please feel free to do your own thing 
I suddenly feel like Disformation hacked your account.
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In response to Shining's WoT.
Some solid reads in there, I'll prob reread this later on tonight as I run through filters.
Both you and Palmar seem to forget that that in PyP it wasn't until D3 that I really started to push my scumreads (or reads in general). D1 I don't think I voted till ~3 hours left in the day and only had a scumread on Dis.
I get where you are coming from about townreads being easier for scum, but I've been finding that getting even just one or two pretty solid townreads early on can be really useful. Kinda inspired by Damdred's play actually.
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4) Tumblewood 5) Breshke 6)nooniansoong 8) The Shining 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker
Ok this was where I was at earlier, Shining's recent posts make me fairly convinced he is town, Bre and Tumble are also townleans for me. So that leaves me with....
6)nooniansoong 9) Scott 11) Rsoultin 12GlowingBear 13) sicklucker
Rsoul is pretty null to me, I see her mostly playing peacekeeper and her posting style makes it a bit hard to read her. Overall though she is pretty engaged and has been pretty open with sharing her thoughts so she's probably not a great lynch today.
SL is kinda in the same boat for me, and I'm tempted to just put him on a back burner but I promised to filter dive him. So here I go...
+ Show Spoiler [FilterDive] +First 3 posts still feel off to me, but Rsoul pointed out that his early posts were probably in response to Trfel's open so that might explain the odd feels I'm getting. I'm actually not a fan at all of the vote on Eden. It looks really opportunistic to me, and the followup reasoning is pretty shit. On February 16 2016 09:07 sicklucker wrote: Edens never anything but vt or mafia with that post. I think are day one lynch is locked up see ya torm I also called this post out earlier because of the bolded, On February 16 2016 09:13 sicklucker wrote: because on a somewhat pointless day one if I suspect someone as being mafia and not a powerole I will target them always. I dont even have to be too sure its just always the safe play I actually shouldn't have dropped this point, kus SL was talking about THIS particular D1 being pointless in this post which doesn't really make sense. I'm kinda thinking this was just an excuse to leave his vote on Eden. This is kinda backed up by the fact that SL is now saying he was voting for information but got none since nobody else voted Eden. I do sorta agree with SL about the setup speculation point. It's more beneficial to mafia than town imo, least in a semi-open setup like this. This read progression looks odd to me as well. On February 16 2016 15:57 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2016 15:55 Tictock wrote: Well, did you get any read off of Trfel and Eden in their exchange?
Who do you think is trying to build themselves towncred?
You and Shape were just on a mafia team together, do you have any insights into his alignment?
Maybe you could try to talk about stuff like that rather than complain that the day is boring. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/H1ZRySi.gif) town On February 17 2016 07:10 sicklucker wrote: shapelogs town. im sure its my only read of the game. and maybe ticktock That first post is pretty confident, so what's making him unsure about me in the next post? Also this Shape read is outa nowhere. Another odd post, so far SL has only given reads on me and Shape, so this is his first mafia read but he doesn't want to push Rsoul kus she can spew herself town? On February 17 2016 10:40 sicklucker wrote: rsoultin is giving me mafia vibes but I still wouldnt lynch her day one because like me she has a sick ability.
Its called the spew yourself town ability its the best ability to have I'm not at all sure how SL came up with these names. I'd argue that GB, Kush and to a lesser extent Tumble have all been just as lackluster at this point in the game. On February 17 2016 11:45 sicklucker wrote: ya lets just lynch scott or shining. literally no one else should be up untill they participate There's a pretty good shot SL is scum here, he is playing the path of least resistance on the lynch today and the one scum read he seems to have he doesn't want to push.
Neither Kush nor Scott have done much to warrant any townreads, but I also don't see much mafia motivation in their posts either. Kush is not as active as I've seen him in recent games, but that's not necessarily indicative of much. Been a long time since i played with Scott and his posts could come from either alignment.
I don't know what to do about GB. On the one hand I think he could actually be town, but on the other I'm very unimpressed with what he has posted thus far. Policy lynch is an option. + Show Spoiler +Just to be clear I'm suggesting this because GB is clearly not making an effort to make himself readable this game, and if he is town I doubt he is going to be terribly helpful anyways
So I think this all leaves me wanting to lynch SL, and possibly policy lynch GB.
##Vote: Sicklucker
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On February 17 2016 17:27 sicklucker wrote: are we really gonna lynch the shining with the longest post in the game tho? rly? the shining?
Yea seeing you post this but still jump on this wagon is also pretty opportunistic imo.
Feeling good about my vote already.
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Holy shit, 12 new pages?
Ofc would happen the day I get out of work late.
Gunna try and skim and get caught in in the next 15 or so min.
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On February 18 2016 02:49 Trfel wrote:Shapelog is mafia  He scumread me, then when I said I was suspicious of him for not doing anything, that it's purely his fault of he gets lynched. And then all of the other reasons. ##vote ShapelogI mean, this is like a swiss cheese vote, but whatever
I don't follow this post at all...
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Crap I'm still like 10 pages behind and time marching on...
What's the important stuff I missed?
I see it looked like a wagon was forming on Shape but then broke apart suddenly, was there a claim?
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On February 18 2016 05:38 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2016 05:37 Tictock wrote: Crap I'm still like 10 pages behind and time marching on...
What's the important stuff I missed?
I see it looked like a wagon was forming on Shape but then broke apart suddenly, was there a claim? I claimed Blue, But have yet to state what blue role i am. for fear of giving mafia TMI about my role role.
Ok.
Who do you think we should be lynching today then?
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Ok, thanks Shape.
@SL, you have no opinions on who is scum anymore?
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Shapelog (1): rsoultin, Trfel, nooniansoong, Breshke, Tumblewood Sicklucker(2): Ticktock, Palmar, GlowingBear, Shapelog Palmar (3): nooniansoong, sicklucker, Shapelog, Rsoultin GlowingBear(2): nooniansoong, scott31337, nooniansoong scott31337 (1): sicklucker The Shining (1): Eden1892,sicklucker Breshke(1): Palmar Trfel (0): Shapelog Eden1892 (0): Trfel, sicklucker Scott31337 (2): Trfel, Breshke
This is the most chaotic voting that I think I've even seen for a D1...
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Ugh I'm really torn here, SL's response to my push was decent.
GB has made some more serious posts in the past few hours but I'm not really sure the content was really there.
Palmar might not be a bad lynch he really has never made much of an impact nor has his push on Bre ever been explained.
I could also flip scott kus he has a bad habit of rolling scum...
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Screw it, I switched to Palmar.
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Gunna put a little trust in Shape, but also I realized if Palmar does flip scum then it's almost for sure that Trfel is his teammate so that would be a sweet way to end D1.
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Bah, sorry Trfel I shoulda stuck with my earlier gut read on you and your read on Palmar.
I felt like I was super useless that EoD, having a time crunch like that and being so far behind on reading sucks.
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Ok so this should be the final vote count.
Palmar (4): nooniansoong, sicklucker, Shapelog, rsoultin, sicklucker, Tictock, Eden1892, Tumblewood scott31337 (4): sicklucker, Trfel, Breshke, rsoultin, sicklucker GlowingBear(2): nooniansoong, scott31337, nooniansoong Breshke(1): Palmar Tumblewood (1): The Shining, sicklucker nooniansoong (1): GlowinBear Trfel (0): Shapelog Eden1892 (0): Trfel, sicklucker Sicklucker(0): Tictock, Palmar, GlowingBear, Shapelog The Shining (0): Eden1892, sicklucker Shapelog (0): rsoultin, Trfel, nooniansoong, Breshke, Tumblewood
Not sure what to make of that neck and neck vote with scott, and tbh this is a terrible last vote to try to use VCA on.
With the leading wagon only being 4 people it's pretty unlikely that all the mafia were there, and it's far more likely that they were spread all over.
GB and Shining both trying to start shenannigans makes them more likely to be town kus mafia would prob be much happier to just pile onto the mislynch on Palmar.
It's really hard for me to draw any conclusions about scott though. Like there was several pretty last min votes on Palmar, but I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure Eden is as well so that would only leave Tumble as possible scum trying to save his buddy.
Idk the votes were all over the place, which might actually mean it was a town v town.
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I gotta head out here in a few, I'll finish catching up what I skipped earlier later tonight.
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