On January 17 2016 14:25 Coagulation wrote: palmer you attack me personally with insults and shit when I read you as scum when you are scum and thats why I will never fucking like you.
p.s. you are a bad person and should feel bad.
I don't expect you to like me, we're very, very different people and the feeling of dislike is mutual. You are probably the only person on TL mafia that I actively dislike. It has nothing to do with the game at hand and whether or not I am mafia or not.
I dislike you because you repeatedly sign up for games and do the absolute bare minimum to not get modkilled, you don't play to win.
I dislike you because you are willing to ruin a game for a bunch of other people to keep your stupid townie seal going (you have been lynched in the past for refusing to post it as scum, effectively fucking over your team).
I dislike you because you act like a total asshole to this community time and time again. It may not be perfect, but some of us are actually trying to make it work.
On April 08 2014 12:09 Coagulation wrote: like I cant continue be a part of this community and still have respect for myself. you guys are by far the worst community i have ever been a part of on the net.
On April 08 2014 10:25 Coagulation wrote: i just hope yall are not as big of pussys in rl as yall act here.
"omg he said he swears on his life omg thats not fair"
I genuinely think you make every game you sign up for worse by simply being a part of it. I wish you'd just stay on omgus and play there so I don't have to deal with you.
It's entirely possible I'm the asshole, but it's probably fair that you know why I always act like a dick to you.
Anybody have any advice for me? I think I have a real problem with being able to be firm on my reads, and to really stick to what I think. I start to consider all the possibilities and doubt myself a ton, which is why in this end game I basically collapsed. A lot of the time I was on the right track with Palmar/Onegu (though completely wrong with kush).
On January 18 2016 07:12 ExO_ wrote: Anybody have any advice for me? I think I have a real problem with being able to be firm on my reads, and to really stick to what I think. I start to consider all the possibilities and doubt myself a ton, which is why in this end game I basically collapsed. A lot of the time I was on the right track with Palmar/Onegu (though completely wrong with kush).
A lot of it is knowing the players and that comes from just experience with playing with them. Being unsure of your reads is really good though despite what you may think. The only downside to being unsure is that you need to understand when you're just being paranoid and that paranoia is taking over or when it's being unsure because they do something that you consider goes against your initial read.
The thing with being afraid of damdred was straight up paranoia (and not necessarily a bad thing) but when that kicks in you need to affirm your read all over again, figure out what made you think he was town to begin with and see if that still holds true and if he's constantly reaffirming that town read.
Secondly, when it gets towards end game you need to start thinking in different ways. You should at this point have a list of people you town read and reasons for town reading them, if that reason for town reading them is based on an action they did at one point in the game or you town read them for very minimal reasons that's a good time to rethink that person.
You also need to look at motives and who started doing what at what part of the game, mafia towards the end of the game are INTENT and hell bent on getting their mislynches. They are the people that aren't really looking at things logically per se and just surface level throw out "oh x and y are scum" or "oh maybe i'm wrong and it's z!" and don't really give a shit or are the people that heroically just push an easy to lynch guy. Townies will tend to look at all angles and rethink things and be totally unsure and paranoid (like you were experiencing) but not be so surface level.
On January 18 2016 07:12 ExO_ wrote: Anybody have any advice for me? I think I have a real problem with being able to be firm on my reads, and to really stick to what I think. I start to consider all the possibilities and doubt myself a ton, which is why in this end game I basically collapsed. A lot of the time I was on the right track with Palmar/Onegu (though completely wrong with kush).
A lot of it is knowing the players and that comes from just experience with playing with them. Being unsure of your reads is really good though despite what you may think. The only downside to being unsure is that you need to understand when you're just being paranoid and that paranoia is taking over or when it's being unsure because they do something that you consider goes against your initial read.
The thing with being afraid of damdred was straight up paranoia (and not necessarily a bad thing) but when that kicks in you need to affirm your read all over again, figure out what made you think he was town to begin with and see if that still holds true and if he's constantly reaffirming that town read.
Secondly, when it gets towards end game you need to start thinking in different ways. You should at this point have a list of people you town read and reasons for town reading them, if that reason for town reading them is based on an action they did at one point in the game or you town read them for very minimal reasons that's a good time to rethink that person.
You also need to look at motives and who started doing what at what part of the game, mafia towards the end of the game are INTENT and hell bent on getting their mislynches. They are the people that aren't really looking at things logically per se and just surface level throw out "oh x and y are scum" or "oh maybe i'm wrong and it's z!" and don't really give a shit or are the people that heroically just push an easy to lynch guy. Townies will tend to look at all angles and rethink things and be totally unsure and paranoid (like you were experiencing) but not be so surface level.
Also, I really want to emphasize the fact Onegu made a shitty video with a massive scumslip and fucking "We are the champions" playing in the background and didn't get lynched.
We need to get the 2016 awards thread up for TT's blooper on his claim and for clearly best scumteam.
On January 18 2016 09:21 Palmar wrote: Also, I really want to emphasize the fact Onegu made a shitty video with a massive scumslip and fucking "We are the champions" playing in the background and didn't get lynched.
We need to get the 2016 awards thread up for TT's blooper on his claim and for clearly best scumteam.
On January 18 2016 02:16 Holyflare wrote: Moral of this game just like every other. Stop fucking fake claiming.
And no damdy yours wasn't bad tbh but if no one fake claimed in general shit like this game wouldn't happen.
since when are you team no-fake-claims?
fake claims at night to draw shots are totally acceptable and a totally different story!
the problem is they are rarely believable so people try to get creative.
I think its fine as a one trick pony. but once you have done it once its expected and then you open a whole shit storm. I did it once as cop and will probably never do it again to save my meta
(day fake claims)
What I have seen is people getting frusterated as towns they are getting lynched and then claiming for a role bullet. this is a no no. Its one thing to deceive mafia if your already town read but not if your a lynch canadidate
man even if onegu got lynched for that, palmar watched the whole video and pointed it out I would have eaten that shit on a silver platter if I were in this game.
Also I swear I'll update the OP with all the flips at some point
Doesnt matter people be like onegu made a video case he must be town. Onegu bitching hardcore he is going to be lynched he must be town.
That is one of the meta things that would have worked on me this game. But next game when onegu bitches he is being lynched he is scum. Nope, Maybe. Onegu cannot be meta read. Suck it.
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