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On January 15 2016 05:54 nooniansoong wrote:
Shining,
So the fact that I'm reading your filter and trying makes you scumread me more? That doesn't make sense to me.
Why does it make me scum that I suspect you?
Hell yeah. It's a change in tone from what you've been doing the entire game, which is basically nothing but pulling reads out of thin air, then picking and choosing when and how to explain it after you are called out on it.
And how does it not make sense? Bad read progression, admitting to not reading my filter, THEN flip your read, THEN read my filter. That's so scummy. You are working completely backwards because your mislynch options are running thin
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On January 15 2016 05:55 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 04:58 The Shining wrote:On January 15 2016 02:48 nooniansoong wrote:Shining wrote:
I'm not really sure on Slam, I was willing to sheep onto him before Palmars case on GB and after reading what NM said about GB not voting Slam to save himself being telling, I found myself agreeing with it so I think Slam could be scum. I still haven't felt any better about his whole anger outburst and calling me out for being Eastern =|
Wishy washiness on slam. Also the eastern thing is fake as hell. I think slam could be scum. Yup so wishy washy Your words were exactly "I'm not really sure on Slam"
And in that same paragraph, "after reading what NM said about GB not voting Slam to save himself being telling, I found myself agreeing with it so I think Slam could be scum."
You are just picking and choosing shit to fit your narrative of me being scum and ignoring everything else, even within the same post. You're really reaching and it's sad.
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well i poed you as scum then i looked for you filter to try to convince other people and myself.
so yes i did go through your filter after i decided you were scum.
Yes my reads have been changing a lot and they may still do so. That's not scummy. It's townie. I don't know who scum is and im trying to figure it out.
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On January 15 2016 06:03 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 05:55 nooniansoong wrote:On January 15 2016 04:58 The Shining wrote:On January 15 2016 02:48 nooniansoong wrote:Shining wrote:
I'm not really sure on Slam, I was willing to sheep onto him before Palmars case on GB and after reading what NM said about GB not voting Slam to save himself being telling, I found myself agreeing with it so I think Slam could be scum. I still haven't felt any better about his whole anger outburst and calling me out for being Eastern =|
Wishy washiness on slam. Also the eastern thing is fake as hell. I think slam could be scum. Yup so wishy washy Your words were exactly "I'm not really sure on Slam" And in that same paragraph, "after reading what NM said about GB not voting Slam to save himself being telling, I found myself agreeing with it so I think Slam could be scum." You are just picking and choosing shit to fit your narrative of me being scum and ignoring everything else, even within the same post. You're really reaching and it's sad.
"i think slam could be scum" is still wishy washy in that you aren't commiting to lynch slam or not.
anyway where's palmar and exo..
also damdred want to help with some ideas?
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On January 15 2016 06:17 nooniansoong wrote:
well i poed you as scum then i looked for you filter to try to convince other people and myself.
so yes i did go through your filter after i decided you were scum.
Yes my reads have been changing a lot and they may still do so. That's not scummy. It's townie. I don't know who scum is and im trying to figure it out.
Nah you just sound like you don't believe your reads. I know it must be hard to do as scum. Just look at how you're interacting with me. You say you've caught scum in me, yet you're talking to me trying to convince me you're not scum and that I am.
If you truly believed I'm scum, you wouldn't be trying to explain to me what makes you townie.
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shining i'm trying to see the townie in you if it's there.
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On January 15 2016 06:26 The Shining wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 06:17 nooniansoong wrote:
well i poed you as scum then i looked for you filter to try to convince other people and myself.
so yes i did go through your filter after i decided you were scum.
Yes my reads have been changing a lot and they may still do so. That's not scummy. It's townie. I don't know who scum is and im trying to figure it out. Nah you just sound like you don't believe your reads. I know it must be hard to do as scum. Just look at how you're interacting with me. You say you've caught scum in me, yet you're talking to me trying to convince me you're not scum and that I am. If you truly believed I'm scum, you wouldn't be trying to explain to me what makes you townie.
and no.
you had me as townie for a while then back as scum when i started to suspect you. That is omgus. I want to understand your suspicion of me so that I can figure out if it's coming from town or scum. It's not about convincing you that I'm town.
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shining, a big part of my townread is you said really smart things in nutcracker (i think it was that game?) and got nked immediately. You haven't had any good arguments or been very smart this game about anything but mechanics discussion (which is NAI).
Can you show me something that might convince me of your towniness?
Or is there an IRL reason why you sucked (no offense) this game? Like the game was so big and you didn't read it?
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*a big part of my scumread
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OR can anyone else show me evidence of shinings towniness?
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On January 15 2016 06:31 nooniansoong wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2016 06:26 The Shining wrote:On January 15 2016 06:17 nooniansoong wrote:
well i poed you as scum then i looked for you filter to try to convince other people and myself.
so yes i did go through your filter after i decided you were scum.
Yes my reads have been changing a lot and they may still do so. That's not scummy. It's townie. I don't know who scum is and im trying to figure it out. Nah you just sound like you don't believe your reads. I know it must be hard to do as scum. Just look at how you're interacting with me. You say you've caught scum in me, yet you're talking to me trying to convince me you're not scum and that I am. If you truly believed I'm scum, you wouldn't be trying to explain to me what makes you townie. and no. you had me as townie for a while then back as scum when i started to suspect you. That is omgus. I want to understand your suspicion of me so that I can figure out if it's coming from town or scum. It's not about convincing you that I'm town.
Not true. You were always a null to scum read of mine until that one interaction we had where we admittedly both started to ease off of each other. With those responses, I said I couldn't particularly find the scum motivation behind your posts. That's one day/night phase at max that I wasn't thinking you were scum, not "a while".
And I know im one of the only mislynches left in the game so yes, call it whatever you want to, your flip on me for no reason but POE that didn't come with reasons until after you decided to scum me reeked of scum pushing my ml.
And you telling me things you've done and what you're doing now and how it makes you, or should make you, townie has nothing to do with my suspicions. It's how YOU interpret I should be reading you. If you were town, you'd be more concerned with finding actual scum instead of a poor POE and narrative case and being aware of what YOU look like.
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k shining you aren't getting it.
i'm not concerned with what i look like.
im concerned with how you see me. cause that is something that could help me read you.
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the reasons i scumread you at the beginning of this day was essentially "damn exo looks townie"
and that had reasons.
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On January 15 2016 06:35 nooniansoong wrote:
shining, a big part of my townread is you said really smart things in nutcracker (i think it was that game?) and got nked immediately. You haven't had any good arguments or been very smart this game about anything but mechanics discussion (which is NAI).
Can you show me something that might convince me of your towniness?
Or is there an IRL reason why you sucked (no offense) this game? Like the game was so big and you didn't read it?
I didn't play in Nutcracker. Afaik the only games I've played with you was Ippo where you got mod killed(I think that was you) and Dark Tournament, where I lynched you as blue d1 before carrying town to a win. Im also like never NKd. Go look at the database. It's almost always survived or endgamed.
If you've read my filter like you say you have, there's nothing I could show you that you haven't already seen. If you can't see what makes me town, then you don't want to see it, and are the most likely scum to be pushing my mislynch.
You could say I sucked if you want, idgaf, but at the end of the day and this game, I'll have been on every single flipped scum wagon. Just because I'm not posting walls of text or game ending cases doesn't mean I'm bad.
Implying I've been bad is extremely sad coming from you, who has been putting more effort into my read and filter than you have the rest of the game.
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sorry i didn't mean to call you bad. I just meant your play was a lot more townier and had a lot more figuring shit out.
I was thinking of the game Newbie Student Mafia XVIII which you replaced into.
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On January 15 2016 06:42 nooniansoong wrote:
k shining you aren't getting it.
i'm not concerned with what i look like.
im concerned with how you see me. cause that is something that could help me read you.
Well I'm typing it out, plain as day, so Idk what to tell you. And posts like these just reinforce the fact that you don't believe your scum read in me so make your call. I'm not going to keep running around in circles.
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yes im having doubts about you. Let's shut up and hopefully exo will scumslip or something.
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this isn't a game about belief. i believe that 2+2=4 but you can't have belief level of certainty in this game. Being wrong so many times has taught me to believe nothign.
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On January 15 2016 06:49 nooniansoong wrote:
sorry i didn't mean to call you bad. I just meant your play was a lot more townier and had a lot more figuring shit out.
I was thinking of the game Newbie Student Mafia XVIII which you replaced into.
There were less pages to read and it was a really slow game. I was also shot because of my past play in DT and because scum had a blue read on the guy I replaced. I lynched one town over another, hard towned 2 scum and had a 1 page filter. It wasn't exactly stellar town play.
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your posts that game were really good and that's probably why you were killed i think.
but ok it is understandable what you say. This was a really shitty game. And it bodes well for your alignment that you are in the thread having this long ass conversation with me.
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