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On December 27 2015 09:05 Damdred wrote: Here's the deal we need to establish that we are going to lynch me never and never putting me under suspicion.
That way I can give you great reads like this:
Town: Trfel, ritoky, arty, Ness, Damdred and somewhat ticktock (slight lean)
Can you explain these?
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On December 27 2015 09:11 Damdred wrote: Ness is pretty much the easiest town read in the game atm. He's super town.
Tt made a joke that made me laugh, mafia almost never make me laugh,
Art is doing things that make him town.
Rit is meta meta meta but he's town.
Truffle is tone.
Yeah, no
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On December 27 2015 09:13 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:12 N e s s wrote: Alright, i'm just going to assume this started for now.
Also, i can't understand why lynching Mooseydoosey is a good idea what so ever. Why would you lynch someone not even an hour into Day 1?
But, nevertheless heres a few questions to get the ball rolling.
Answer these questions.
How much mafia experience do you have? I have played atleast 10 games up to this point. How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? twice, won both times. If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back. If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? I'd push green. Can you explain what you hoped to get out of these questions? I understand the first two purely from an analytical standpoint but the last two: 1) Show nested quote +If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back. At this point in the game there had been about half a page of useless posts, if you yourself could not really come up with a person to lynch and your answer provides nothing in terms of a progressive thought what did you hope to achieve by asking people this same question? In your eyes this question should lead to nothing but redundant statements since you yourself could not see anything. Furthermore I have qualms with the second half of the statement: You have a list of four questions and they are all designed as you have said: Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 08:17 N e s s wrote:On December 27 2015 08:16 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:12 N e s s wrote: Alright, i'm just going to assume this started for now.
Also, i can't understand why lynching Mooseydoosey is a good idea what so ever. Why would you lynch someone not even an hour into Day 1?
But, nevertheless heres a few questions to get the ball rolling.
Answer these questions.
How much mafia experience do you have? I have played atleast 10 games up to this point. How many times have you been mafia in your mafia meta? twice, won both times. If you had to choose one person to lynch right now, who would it be? Honestly most of you are doing moose for reasons i can't understand, but right now basically nobody. I haven't read back. If you saw 3 buttons, 1 being green, 1 being yellow, and 1 being red, which would you push? I'd push green. 1) 2 years of experience, basically 2) 8 times I think 3) ness 4) I'd push triangle Question: how do you expect these questions will help you to find mafia? It actually can be used later on in game, collecting answers usually helps me. but you have currently exclaimed (in fact multiple times) that you are bemused by the fact that people are voting for MoosyDoosy yet this is not a feature in your questions at all.
If I were to purely judge your game plan by this post alone it would appear that you are trying to ask questions purely for the sake of asking questions (blending in) while not asking the intuitive questions that one in your position should be asking (why are people voting for Moosy?). This speaks to me as a mafia agenda and one which I am inclined to vote for. Can you please answer the following for me? 1) Why did you not ask why people were voting for Moosy if you were concerned about this and instead ask people redundant questions? 2) What did you hope the answers from people would reveal? 3) If it was raining on a Tuesday in Spain what shape would a crocodile be if it was square?
THANK GOD someone gets what I'm saying.
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On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote: are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?
dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days.
The questions aren't dumb. They just lead nowhere. Which means he is asking just to have something to post. Trying to be contributive without being contributive. Which is a Mafia trait.
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On December 27 2015 09:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:27 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 09:22 ritoky wrote: are you really scum reading the guy with 0 posts prior to this game who posted useless stuff and did a jester speculation in an open setup? REALLY?
dumb=/=scum; that guy is ML bait for days. The questions aren't dumb. They just lead nowhere. Which means he is asking just to have something to post. Trying to be contributive without being contributive. Which is a Mafia trait. It is a mafia trait if you are a couple days into the game. Asking people their scumreads after 1 page into the game is just dumb.
Asking which button to press isn't dumb tho. It's pointless. This isn't Mass Effect 3.
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On December 27 2015 09:32 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:29 Damdred wrote: Because rit is obvious town if you pay attention even if he a wrong. Mixture of tone posts and a couple of things To me he still is pretty null, easy to make posts
He actually made a very scummy post
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On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote: town: artanis, ness pocketing me: slam, rsoul mafia lean: gb, trfel
Why is Artanis town?
Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia?
Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia?
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On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:hey gb i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that? 
I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm
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On December 27 2015 09:47 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:41 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 08:58 ritoky wrote: town: artanis, ness pocketing me: slam, rsoul mafia lean: gb, trfel Why is Artanis town? Why is slam buddying you (where did you get that idea?)? Do you think the guys that are buddying you are Mafia? Why am I Mafia? Why truffle is Mafia? artanis is freely posting thoughts instead of releasing them in blocks of text. artans waits, sounds calculated, and posts in paragraphs/walls when he is scum. slam and rsoul are doing things that aren't alignment indicative but make me like them; plus slam is just hot irl. you're mafia because town GB calls that guy an idiot or worthless, town GB doesn't call him mafia. trfel is mafia cuz he sounded whimpy. having played with trfel as mafia recently, i think his biggest tell is that he sounds meek and whimpy as mafia. we done with your shitter read? ![[image loading]](http://25.media.tumblr.com/c5d1933f5de28e7d39fe5405c65188fb/tumblr_mzb0vb9qKx1t7d0aqo1_250.gif)
Meh...
I like your answer but I think the wording is very weird. When you said "buddying me" it sounded like you were talking about rsoul throwing hearts at you. So saying slam was also buddying you doesn't make sense since he didn't say a thing about you. I don't know what is good on slam that makes you like him? Can you tell me what it is, specifically?
I call people Mafia all the time. Saying that I couldn't call him Mafia for that post as town is really contrived.
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On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:hey gb i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that?  I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm
Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me
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On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
1) The person that can see the 2 hats in front of him yells a color. If he gets it wrong, it means he was already seeing two different colors. This confirms his color as the opposite. Then the middle guy yells another color based on the color he is seeing in front on him and the other color that is confirmed.
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On December 27 2015 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:hey gb i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that?  I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me I don't get your initial reply though. -Presumably, Rsoul is the GB whisperer. -She reads you as scum. -You don't have a read on her. -Instead of finding this suspicious, you waiver it off as "Eh, I have no reason to read you as scum." Only now do you actually think her reply was town, so you didn't there at first which makes it even scummier.
I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie.
If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum
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On December 27 2015 10:05 Koshi wrote:To honor the last good big game I played I will post 2 riddles here as well. The first one to get both answers right will never be voted by me (till D4) and gets 1 wish to be used during the game. Wishing for multiple wishes is not allowed. Alliens have conquered the earth and decided to eat the dumb people first and finish with the smartest people. To decide the order in how they eat people they invented a couple of test. If a group succeeds to solve the riddle within 3 minutes they are spared, otherwise they get eaten. Let's assume the group gets told the rules of the riddle before and then can come up with a plan together. So that they only need 1 smart person in each group to survive another day. 1) First riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People got told there are 2 black hats and 1 white hat OR there are 2 white hats and 1 black hat. goal: - A person needs to correctly yell out the color of his hat. If he can do that all 3 are spared. (so black or white is the first word anybody can say) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously) 2) second riddle setup: - People can only look forward. - People cannot move/speak/signal each other in a "cheaty" way. (your guts should tell you what is allowed) - People get told they have either a black hat or a white hat on their head. goal: - Yell out the color of your hat. Out of the 9 people max 1 person can be wrong. In this riddle person 1 starts, then 2, 3, 4, etc till 9. ![[image loading]](https://i.gyazo.com/4391fda423ccd187b9dc4c02582a3a3b.png) question: - How will they solve it? (Let's assume the picture has the randomized set-up which the players didn't know beforehand obviously)
2) how many hats are there for each color?
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[QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: hey gb
i think you're mafia
you think i can read you well
you're not calling me mafia
what do you think of that? [/QUOTE]
I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm[/QUOTE]
Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me[/QUOTE] I don't get your initial reply though.
-Presumably, Rsoul is the GB whisperer. -She reads you as scum. -You don't have a read on her. -Instead of finding this suspicious, you waiver it off as "Eh, I have no reason to read you as scum."
Only now do you actually think her reply was town, so you didn't there at first which makes it even scummier.[/QUOTE]
I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie.
If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum[/QUOTE]
which game are you referring to?[/QUOTE
The game where you and Rayn were about to kynch me and I had to scream my lungs off to prove I'm town
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On December 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On December 27 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote:On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote:hey gb i think you're mafia you think i can read you well you're not calling me mafia what do you think of that?  I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me I don't get your initial reply though. -Presumably, Rsoul is the GB whisperer. -She reads you as scum. -You don't have a read on her. -Instead of finding this suspicious, you waiver it off as "Eh, I have no reason to read you as scum." Only now do you actually think her reply was town, so you didn't there at first which makes it even scummier. I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie. If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum which game are you referring to?
The game where you and Rayn were about to kynch me and I had to scream my lungs off to prove I'm town
EBWOP
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[QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:28 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:24 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:23 rsoultin wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:21 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:16 Artanis[Xp] wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 10:02 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:44 GlowingBear wrote: [QUOTE]On December 27 2015 09:43 rsoultin wrote: hey gb
i think you're mafia
you think i can read you well
you're not calling me mafia
what do you think of that? [/QUOTE]
I just think you're wrong. I have no reason to think you're scum atm[/QUOTE]
Actually this post of yours seems pretty townie to me[/QUOTE] I don't get your initial reply though.
-Presumably, Rsoul is the GB whisperer. -She reads you as scum. -You don't have a read on her. -Instead of finding this suspicious, you waiver it off as "Eh, I have no reason to read you as scum."
Only now do you actually think her reply was town, so you didn't there at first which makes it even scummier.[/QUOTE]
I thought about her queation later, and I could see a thought process that led her to inquire me about that. She is going after a thing she found suspicious, reacting to the information (or lack of it) accordingly to how it gets dropped in the thread. This is townie.
If she is really town, tho, she will know I'm town later. It's not the first time she starts the game believing I'm scum[/QUOTE]
which game are you referring to?[/QUOTE
The game where you and Rayn were about to kynch me and I had to scream my lungs off to prove I'm town [/QUOTE]
you do know i said d1 right?
-flicks viva-
it's not infallible obviously. i've already admitted that, mr. snarky. i've been wrong (unless i'm misremembering) on an early d1 scumread exactly once before (jat) and i corrected it before EoD so...i know that may not mean a lot to some but it does make me more inclined to trust it when i really think someone is scum d1
you're not my biggest fan, so even though this feels like an attempt to discredit i'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and see what else you do. just be aware that you're on my radar now ^^[/QUOTE]
It's not an attempt to discredit, dear. I think you are wrong instead of Mafia, and knowing that you were wrong on me before reinforces the perspective where you're town here. And, since you usually can read me well, I'm not worried about a read you have on the first hours of the game. There is plenty of time until you can correctly read me.
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And what do you mean I'm not your biggest fan? I'm always happy to play with you
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On December 27 2015 10:39 rsoultin wrote:@rit - i haven't  i still think gb is most likely of everyone who has posted to be scum re: vivax, he frequently says i'm obstructive as town etc. etc. so specifically with him he could just be a dick, but given how little he's posted so far, it's interesting that he attacks me slantways that way. he doesn't have a read on me (though he does give a weak townread on gb) and instead just mocks my way of getting reads -shrugs- if gb's mafia that's not a bad tactic for a scum-mate to employ and i've seen nothing from viva to make me think that he's town @gb - everything below -flicks viva- is directed at him and not you
Oh
Okay
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Like, dear, the way you inquired me about my lack of reaction in you scum reading me felt townie. You call me Mafia, I don't OMGUS, you find it weird and you decide to investigate this better. I can see a person trying to confirm suspicions on my alignment rather than trying to force a wagon on me.
Also, if you were Mafia, I don't think you would risk getting tunneled by me like that. You could simply town read me and go after a better target.
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On December 27 2015 10:49 Vivax wrote: Koshi's riddle #1
If the guy in the middle says the opposite of what he sees in front of him, and then the guy behind him too, the third should know his own color?
1 in front. 3 in back.
#2: I am black -> #1 knows he white #3: I am white -> # 2 knows he black #1: knows from #2 hes white
in any other case #3 knows what he is just from the 2 colors in front. My try I guess
White/black/white
If first says black and fails, 2 and 3 knows the guy is white
If second is seeing a white hat in front of him, he knows his hat is black. Puzzle solved.
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