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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 15:51 GMT
#971
(i better be right now, *giggles*)
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 15:52 GMT
#973
On October 24 2015 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 00:41 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:36 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:32 Xatalos wrote:
GB, if you're town, seriously don't just commit suicide here. Looks like it's heading towards you vs rayn and it'd be sad if you caused your own death there, like a certain player in my newbie game....


I'm not commiting suicide, I'm getting angry that such shitty scum read on me based on a read that I find very reasonable and I'm having a hard time believing good players can't possibly see I'm town.

Then start playing as town, vote for slam, and stop asking questions about what you should already know instead of telling us you have read the thread.


I
HAVE
READ
THE
THREAD

I KNOW YOU "YOLO'ED" AND CALLED ONEGU TOWN FOR NO REASON
I KNOW YOU META'ED HOPELESS AND CALLED HIM TOWN
I KNOW MARV AND YOU HAD TWO INITIAL TOWNREADS - XATALOS AND VIVAX
I KNOW YOU FUCKING HAD GUMSHOE AS MAFIA THEN FLIPPED YOUR READ

WHY CAN'T I BRING WHAT I THINK ABOUT PLAYERS AND ASK YOU TO COMMENT ABOUT WHAT I'VE BROUGHT INSTEAD OF SAYING "OH OKAY RAYN SAID THESE GUYS ARE TOWN SO THEY ARE"????!?!??

JESUS CHRIST

Because if you fail to realize your read on Vivax is actually really terrible then there is nothing to talk about that one. If you can't understand, when four players, me, marv, yamato, and Vivax (and to some extent other players -- well basically all of them) call your read bad, you should probably at least think your read can be bad, as we can't all be mafia, right? Instead of doing this, you come back and say "but i would never do this as mafia". Your read is bad, regardless of Vivax alignment, that's a fact. Yet you are just sitting there on that read doing nothing.

Onegu is likely town for his approach towards me early on in the game. Same goes to Hopeless. Furthermore, last time i asked Hopeless to do shit when he was mafia he didn't do shit. I agree Hopeless isn't doing much but is trying to do something, and that is a towntell for him. I will never lynch Hopeless or Onegu here on D1. Never. And you should not either, especially with players like Slam in the game (or even Blazinghand who hasn't actually done jack shit this game). Or ritoky, or gumshoe. Never ever.

The last three of those have posted but all of theirs posts have nothing much to say. Now not all of them can be mafia, because Slam is definitely scum, and i can't even know which one of them is/isn't scum, but i am most certain of Onegu not being mafia. Basically Onegu just doesn't care, which is not what his scumplay looks like, and while i hate the way he plays, that's what he does as town.

So if you are town get your head out of your tunnel'y ass and start considering also what other people say, especially when almost everyone in the game shares the view OPPOSITE of yours on Vivax.

^ blatant townpost
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 15:52 GMT
#975
##unvote
##vote: Alakaslam
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 15:58 GMT
#982
On October 24 2015 00:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:48 Xatalos wrote:
I mean.... Your merits this game are defending rayn (who's played exactly according to his scumgame so far, and made many unfathomable logical jumps) based on something that never really happened at the start, and some vague "nice posts" he's made. And attacking Slam for posts that I actually really liked about ritoky/rayn.

okay, you are welcome to think this

but when i end up being right about rayn, i reserve the right to never listen to your opinions in any game ever again.


Well, even if that happened, your reasoning would still suck (especially the part about you having the same reads at the start when you actually argued about your different reads on ritoky and the gumshoe read too... and it's not like it would have been hard for scum rayn to give decent initial townreads either).

it's irrelevant what my reasoning is when the result is always correct

it's not for nothing rayn made a post a couple pages ago "there is only one person on the planet who can read me"

he means me.

go away.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 15:59 GMT
#986
On October 24 2015 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:
I'm gonna sheep marv/rayn. Hoping yamato/onegu show up because they said they would eventually.

##vote: Alakaslam

^ competent townie
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:02 GMT
#992
On October 24 2015 01:01 Alakaslam wrote:
As for me, I am detached which can look the same. Vote me if you like but it'll be wasted. I am nearly impossible to lynch day 1 as either alignment.

i'll give it a go
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:03 GMT
#994
On October 24 2015 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 00:58 marvellosity wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:56 Xatalos wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:51 marvellosity wrote:
On October 24 2015 00:48 Xatalos wrote:
I mean.... Your merits this game are defending rayn (who's played exactly according to his scumgame so far, and made many unfathomable logical jumps) based on something that never really happened at the start, and some vague "nice posts" he's made. And attacking Slam for posts that I actually really liked about ritoky/rayn.

okay, you are welcome to think this

but when i end up being right about rayn, i reserve the right to never listen to your opinions in any game ever again.


Well, even if that happened, your reasoning would still suck (especially the part about you having the same reads at the start when you actually argued about your different reads on ritoky and the gumshoe read too... and it's not like it would have been hard for scum rayn to give decent initial townreads either).

it's irrelevant what my reasoning is when the result is always correct

it's not for nothing rayn made a post a couple pages ago "there is only one person on the planet who can read me"

he means me.

go away.


Well if the reasoning sucks, then it's just luck / TMI / lying... Nothing to brag about. In any case, I'm fairly sure I'm right, so I guess we'll see how things go.

yes it's just lucky that i'm the best person at reading rayn that ever lived

*rolls eyes*
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:04 GMT
#996
On October 24 2015 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:
Surefire ways to get lynched:

1) Tell marv he cant do it.

Hopeless #1 player this game.

this is so true it hurts.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:11 GMT
#1005
marv didn't miss that, marv wasn't talking about that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:13 GMT
#1007
i'm joining rayn, slam
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:15 GMT
#1011
On October 24 2015 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is basically no way Xatalos thinks i am most likely to flip mafia here. I could understand he thinks i am mafia, but not like this, and not for the reasons he pulls out of his ass. He is basically not a person who "yolo's" a scumread like this without digging further into it. If he did, he would see that:

i actually agree with this, esp. the underlined

the problem is i think he's being way too sure about it partly because i antagonised him about it so he's making it seem stronger and stronger than it really is

maybe
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 16:25 GMT
#1022
okay. afk until yamato shows up.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 17:57 GMT
#1101
hi yamato

let's kill Slam

he is mafia
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 17:59 GMT
#1107
On October 24 2015 02:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 02:03 Vivax wrote:
But rayn and marv are arrogant, I don't see the value in reinventing the wheel there.

The way they are arrogant this game should be telling.

Kill them if I go. Why are you voting me?

explain
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:08 GMT
#1119
Meta point on Chromatically:

In Detention (town) he didn't give a single townread on day 1
In Order Mafia (mafia) he did
On June 11 2014 07:44 Chromatically wrote:
I think round is town btw. I like how he's clearly not editing how he posts to seem more "townie" (something scum are focused on). I also like that he didn't even know who was pushing on him when I asked him about it. Scum would be more likely to notice that they're under pressure and be worried about it, because their goal is to not get lynched.

In this game he has given town reads

I'm looking at this because it was a couple of his posts on townreads that made me raise my eyebrows
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:13 GMT
#1131
tbh after reading Chrome's last mafia game and his last towngame i think he could still easily be mafia

not sure i want to pursue it today though
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:19 GMT
#1140
On October 24 2015 03:16 Chromatically wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2015 03:08 marvellosity wrote:
Meta point on Chromatically:

In Detention (town) he didn't give a single townread on day 1
In Order Mafia (mafia) he did
On June 11 2014 07:44 Chromatically wrote:
I think round is town btw. I like how he's clearly not editing how he posts to seem more "townie" (something scum are focused on). I also like that he didn't even know who was pushing on him when I asked him about it. Scum would be more likely to notice that they're under pressure and be worried about it, because their goal is to not get lynched.

In this game he has given town reads

I'm looking at this because it was a couple of his posts on townreads that made me raise my eyebrows

Wait is this a real argument? Are you serious right now?

If you are town that's seriously the worst meta argument I have ever seen.

I get a scumread off of one game where I didn't post a townread on day 1? That's like the definition of nitpicking.

no, rayn told me meta made you look town and I've gone and looked and I disagree.

can you tell me qualities you think you're displaying this game that you didn't in your mafiagame?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:20 GMT
#1142
really don't like your reaction, i didn't even do anything other than point out an observation and you've blown up about it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:31 GMT
#1152
On October 24 2015 03:31 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 10:03 Chromatically wrote:
On June 11 2014 08:03 Koshi wrote:
awkward corner aka might lynch will watch:
Chromatically:
I don't like how he entered the thread. I don't like how he pushing sinani so hard. I don't like it because I don't see it. I can see the point he makes about entering the game with a pointless question trying to blend in. But I don't like how Chrom is blowing these questions up trying to twist it into mafia mindset. Did sinani enter the thread with a question? yes. Did it show mafia mindset. No. The question he asked JAT wasn't what Chrom is making it out to be. It was a pretty legit question. Somebody votes for Robik --> Robik replies --> Somebody says Robik is overdefensive --> sinani doesn't agree that Robik was overdefensive. I have now read Sinani his filter three times. I am puzzled by his filter. I do not see how Chrom can have such a strong scumread on Sinani that he is asking everybody to sheep him.

tldr: Awkward entrance + Too strong scumread.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 05:48 Chromatically wrote:
first two people posting claim scum = scum always post first

therefore the first six people to post are scum

gg

On June 11 2014 05:50 Chromatically wrote:
Oh yeah I'm also town, in case anyone was wondering.

Now we just need the rest of the game to claim and we should be good.

On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206



TicaTica:
Entrance to the thread with a soft defense, a one-liner that looks extremely hard like an attempt to get towncred from those who he defends. the intention behind the entire post screams: Hi guys, I am town because I am helping. The buddying with marv makes me uncomfortable. Rest of filter is filler.
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 11 2014 06:49 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 06:22 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani is mafia for coming into the thread and asking a totally useless question to try to insert himself into the conversation.
On June 11 2014 06:15 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:14 batsnacks wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:13 roundabound wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:09 batsnacks wrote:
He's using nicknames to confuse you = mafia tactic

Please stop dropping terrible logic. I called "killing123" by his real name the entirety of Foundations. I've called "Poofter" by his name every game that I've played with him. If you played video maf with us, you'd probably be prone to doing the same.


Again 0% of this post concerns this game... I'm reading it as a blank post.


what was your post then


Also this sounds like some sort of secret scum code so that pretty much seals the deal.
On June 11 2014 06:16 sinani206 wrote:
the deepest one in the nest


##Vote: sinani206

Nisani und sinani be known lurkers irregardless of randed roll.


On June 11 2014 06:54 TicaTica wrote:
Marvelocity potential is villagery. Would be benefit if hydra heads were both to talk. Plammer is inherent wolfy.


On June 11 2014 07:06 TicaTica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 07:04 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 07:00 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:57 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:50 sinani206 wrote:
On June 11 2014 06:46 Chromatically wrote:
Sinani what do you think of JAT?


Mostly one-liners and wishy washy, I don't really have time right now to quote because I have a meeting at 2:50 but if he keeps this kind of useless posting up I can see a chance of him being red.

In this post sinani basically gives a null read on me. His reasoning can be used for almost 100 % of the players in this game.
I think he added the part with the "chance of being red" to create the illusion that his question towards me had something to do with scumhunting -> tries to get Chrom off his ass.

and therefore your conclusion?

I think it's kinda scummy.

I tend to agree, "if he keeps this up i can see a chance of him being red" is like so many layers of qualifiers :p

on the other hand i'm pretty taken aback that sinani is posting volumously at all. that's a turn up for the books.

Well, is it alignment indicative though? I never played with him afaik.

well i'd expect a mafia-sinani not to bother. that's like a teensy lean though.

Am surprised your not pushing this thought more. -villagry points to mar velocity.



##vote: TicaTica

Wow.

Your scumread on me is not even a scumread. You listed a bunch of things I did that you didn't like or disagreed with. What you did not do is explain how they make me scum. You "didn't like my entrance"- how does that make me scum? You actually say that you disagree with my scumread- how does that make me scum? Even when you're talking about how you disagree with my scumread, you don't quote the case and look at what parts of it you think could come from scum, you just mention why you disagree with some parts of it. And then you basically make up the part where I was "asking everyone to sheep me", because I was making a deliberate point of not doing that (I asked marv because I wanted his opinion, but I'm not going around asking people to start a wagon).

I don't see at all how your points lead you to think I'm scum.

Koshi's case - weird entrance (well maybe) and picking things out on someone that don't make them mafia (on sinani). Kinda feels the same way to me about ritoky maybe.

and you get really aggressive when he calls you mafia here. just like you're throwing yourself at me even though i just pointed out you made townreads as mafia and not as town, and you're making townreads this game

it's totally over the top and unwarranted.

[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
October 23 2015 18:32 GMT
#1153
ok that wasn't supposed to be a quote. i posted it elsewhere and i'm reposting xD
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