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Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 24 2015 20:18 GMT
#143
Hi.

/in /confirm

But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:09 GMT
#333
Rsoultin is town because she (?? Haven't played in so long and this is a new face, heard this person was female somewhere but I know those rarely exist on the internet) was excited to begin the day off and start metaphorically poking people with sticks.

I really want to give MoosyDoosy a townread for:
On August 26 2015 11:20 MoosyDoosy wrote:
whew, i thought DMLE Investigator was a role and started shitting my pants until I re-looked over the OP and saw it was VT in this game.
so I think I will.

VE is def town because he is withholding information. As odd as that sounds, I'd think mafia would be more self-conscious about coming out early in the day and claiming to have some reads but refuse to give them until an unspecified later time.

Palmar and Marv are both probably town, I'll figure it out later. Palmar more town than Marv because he likes Rsoultin as town.

For Trfel, I disagreed with his first post:
On August 26 2015 09:45 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 07:54 boxerfred wrote:
yay, vt, 4th game in a row or so.
Generally, "yay" implies excitement or happiness. But this is boxerfred's only post so far.

Were he actually excited or happy, I would have expected him to make more than one post (or at least comment on something).

Anyway, hello.


I felt like boxerfred's "yay" combined with his claim that it's the fourth game in a row was more sarcastic, like he wanted to either play mafia or a power role but failed to get either. Trfel and I had a different reading of that post, which is noteworthy. The calling out stuff like VE's conditional wording is meh. Calling out rsoultin's one post where the read on marv changed is towny of him to call out because it's a very specific distinction hat mafia have a hard time finding. So I'm back and forth on him.

Kelsier is probably mafia. Calls out moosy/bf, guys that aren't here / haven't done anything notable beside an ambivalent first post.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:11 GMT
#336
Methinks the JAT is town.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:15 GMT
#343
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:16 GMT
#346
Palmar just thinks JAT is mafia because he think JAT has a poor read, or poor reasoning for Trfel to be mafia. That doesn't make jat mafia.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:18 GMT
#348
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:21 GMT
#351
@Kelsier do you have any reads other than just moosy/bf
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:22 GMT
#354
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:24 GMT
#361
On August 26 2015 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p

so getting a pretty decent townread from you is as easy as calling someone town that you think is town??


At the beginning of the game, yes. He gave a read I agreed with, and therefore I assumed he was town making the same assumption on Rsoultin.

On August 26 2015 22:22 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:18 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:16 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:15 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Methinks the JAT is town.

why


Jat is town because he didn't just fall over to Palmar's pressure. He defended his position on the Trfel read and called it the most relevant thing in the thread.

jat is one of the absolute best defenders/arguers as mafia there is on the forum


And this means I should be paranoid about him acting towny under Palmar's pressure? I find it more likely that JAT is just town. There are a lot of faces that I know are considered to play well, but I'd rather just lynch objectively and put he paranoia aside. If I lose to somebody playing well, I'm OK with that.


no it means the reason for your townread is bad, and if the reason for your townread is bad and there are reasons to think he's mafia you shouldn't be an rsoul and wait until the night before lylo to go oh shit i'm a numbnuts and now the guy who always wants to lynch me in lylo has to be convinced i'm just a numbnuts and not mafia and we should lynch the guy i was derping on @.@

tldr

is that the best you've got to think jat is town?


Pretty much. I just liked how he defended his position.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:25 GMT
#363
On August 26 2015 22:23 marvellosity wrote:
for the uninitiated, Mr CC is kinda known for being much more coherent and together as mafia than he is as town


The fact that you remember this is awesome. Although my sig kinda gives it away.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:27 GMT
#367
Although I must admit that I'm kind of over the emotions of mafia at this point. I took a long hiatus, watched some DailyMafia. Not really worried about being correct, but it is nice to have all your reads turn out good in the end. Having fun is really the point.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:31 GMT
#374
Marv is more town than Palmar. Consider my reads switched. Just a feeling, no reasons given.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:33 GMT
#378
On August 26 2015 22:32 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Marv is more town than Palmar. Consider my reads switched. Just a feeling, no reasons given.

excellent, i can stop pursuing you now


Excellent.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:36 GMT
#381
On August 26 2015 22:31 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:27 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:26 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:22 marvellosity wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:22 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
I didn't actually read why palmar townread rsoultin I just saw that he said "Rsoultin is 2% mafia" and agreed :p

so getting a pretty decent townread from you is as easy as calling someone town that you think is town??


At the beginning of the game, yes. He gave a read I agreed with, and therefore I assumed he was town making the same assumption on Rsoultin.


I'm kinda speechless.

1) someone shares a read = town ?!
2) you managed to fail to read the thread to find his reasons despite the fact i spent several posts quesitoning him on it

i... uh. whatever.

Well according to your post saying Cheesycakes is incoherent as town, I'd say he's pretty much confirmed town at this point.


lol

<3 moosy can be town for the day (for the uninitiated in rsoul-ese, this means he got a d1 pass for posting what i thought)

shhhh CC you're messing with my townread on you by saying you don't realize that it's a bad reason lol ><


lol well you are townreading me for bad reasons, because I am townreading Moosy for bad reasons. So if I don't realize I'm townreading JAT for bad reasons, then just assume I am your twin brother in a far-off land who townreads JAT for bad reasons.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:40 GMT
#384
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:45 GMT
#395
On August 26 2015 22:42 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb


The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good

at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty"


What exactly constitutes "jatty"? And I actually agree with the first statement totally. I guess one reason why I think JAT is town is because the case on him is bad.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:46 GMT
#400
Moosy, I'm liking you less and less as the day progresses.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:47 GMT
#402
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:50 GMT
#409
On August 26 2015 22:48 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Palmar doesn't actually think JAT is mafia. I think he just wants to see who will sheep his flaccid case on the matter, and then call them mafia. For this reason, Palmar is town. Of course now I've ruined Palmar's plan. Soz

na he never does this


Then Palmar is mafia for tunneling on a terrible read.
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
Mr. Cheesecake
Profile Joined October 2012
United States3756 Posts
August 26 2015 13:52 GMT
#414
On August 26 2015 22:49 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 22:45 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:42 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 26 2015 22:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
wait Marv what is your read on JAT? Like me, you didn't think his question was dumb


The question wasn't the best question ever but I don't think the case on him is that good

at the moment it comes down to that q and him not being "jatty"


What exactly constitutes "jatty"? And I actually agree with the first statement totally. I guess one reason why I think JAT is town is because the case on him is bad.


lol an early d1 case from two tonereaders is bad? no shit sherlock

doesn't make him town

i'm going to tell you a story about a glowingbear. there was once a glowingbear. he likes to say WHARGARRBLE and do the forum mafia version of a paranoid schizophrenic off his adhd meds. he writes cases on mafia marvs and holyflares that are so shitty you need a plunger. but if there's a glowingbear with a marv or hf scumread and you don't give it a little credence you're an idiot, cause he's usually right for the wrong reasons lol ><

jat doesn't sound like jat (parroty but actually adding to the discussion in his own parroty way) and his sole claim to fame is a question that's at best zzzzz while doing nothing else productive

he is probably scum and it doesn't matter if the "case" is good or not


What has forum mafia come to? Have I missed the apocalypse? Or is this the beginning of a new era?
But CC isn't protown as town. 100% real heuristic.
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