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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:05 GMT
#622
On August 27 2015 01:01 MoosyDoosy wrote:
Wave thoughts on this?

Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:00 Vivax wrote:
On August 26 2015 10:48 Trfel wrote:
To clarify:

On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.

Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far.
On August 26 2015 09:52 Trfel wrote:
On August 26 2015 09:51 VisceraEyes wrote:
Hi I'm town.

Marv playing like Palmar makes me vom a little in my mouth. Otherwise I like most everyone who's posted so far.
Most everyone?

Who don't you like?
On August 26 2015 10:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'll give more details as they become relevant Trfel.

I just don't understand why the bolded sentence is included. Assuming that you are town, saying that you like most of the people who have posted but refusing to specify which ones doesn't accomplish anything. To me it feels like you needed to add an additional comment, but didn't want to commit to townreading everyone who posted or to any other suspicions.


On August 26 2015 13:21 Trfel wrote:
On August 26 2015 12:01 rsoultin wrote:
truffle you aren't talking to me >>
Family comes first, sorry.

I'll be more active in maybe another hour and a half, if you're still awake then. Otherwise, I'm interested to see what Palmar has to say about marvellosity.


What marv said until the last post:

On August 26 2015 07:25 marvellosity wrote:
heya


On August 26 2015 08:50 marvellosity wrote:
this is delightful.


Speaking about additional comments with no basis, Trfel makes it into the candidates for the D1 lynch.


It's not bad.
I'm tempted to agree based on my experience with Trfel because it sounds good, but I think it's a little premature.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:06 GMT
#626
On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game

##unvote
Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game.
Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point.


On what basis?

On the basis that they took over the thread entirely.
Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:09 GMT
#630
On August 27 2015 01:05 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, Wave is voting me because Palmar caught HIM as mafia in the past. Makes a huge post and talks about everything but me except for this statement. This might be the first mafia joining the push.

You're sweet.
I'm way better at scum than to blindly sheep.

I've only ever been officially caught ONCE as scum and it was by Palmar, therefore I afford him a measure of respect on his D1 bullshit, enough to sheep him on what appears to be a fairly decent read.


what is it that is good about it?

I got some feels about it a little early on because I'm used to JAT being a fun-killer as town and wasn't getting any of that, and he was fairly forgettable early as well when he has no problem inserting himself into stuff. The fact that Palmar when ham super early makes it more difficult for ME to get a better read on him, but also the fact that Palmar is going ham on him so early is a good sign based on my recent experiences with town Palmar, so I am absolutely fine sheeping here. Certainly doesn't hurt that marv agrees and is 99.9% town.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:12 GMT
#632
Ah thought marv ninja voted in the thread but it was rsoul.
Well either way I'm still ok with it.

I mean you're welcome to defend/deflect by pushing me JAT.
Bring it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:16 GMT
#637
On August 27 2015 01:14 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ah thought marv ninja voted in the thread but it was rsoul.
Well either way I'm still ok with it.

I mean you're welcome to defend/deflect by pushing me JAT.
Bring it.

marginally concerning you missed my 51 posts where i said i was fence-sitting / reserving judgement / waiting for more

I mean...I read them and remembered them when I realized I was wrong, but 17 pages is a lot to absorb at once.
And now I've got oatmeal in my keyboard.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:17 GMT
#640
On August 27 2015 01:17 justanothertownie wrote:
I do not need to defend myself any further or deflect anything. I am being attacked for an accusation against Trfel that I have explained multiple times by now (and noone even reacted to that btw.) and besides that there is nothing in the thread to even deflect from.
If you are town and seriously think I am a "fun killer" as town early in the game then you have literally not the slightest idea about my play and should check your facts.

You are casually adding fuel to this wagon on me while passing all responsibility or blame to Palmar and it is at best terrible and at worst really scummy.

So be it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:18 GMT
#641
I am interested in Moosy's thoughts now that I have arrived.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:21 GMT
#642
Heh I just thought of a fantastic meta read for myself that probably applies throughout my entire history on this site.
Gonna have to change that.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:28 GMT
#646
I don't really have much to say about that specifically.
Palmar and marv have a super special bromance together that I can't explain accurately in any real detail. The way it seems to me is that Palmar tosses out reads super early just 'cause, some of which may be accurate and some of which might not be but he sticks with them and forces them if necessary, and re-evaluates in secret. In the scumgame where he caught me even though he forced his read on me all game he was actually constantly re-evaluating based on what was going on in game as was evidenced by his posting.

For a read on marv if I had to guess it's easier to assume he's town (even based on very little/nothing) and take it back later on if he just so happens to be wrong, but all of the posting they have done has in all likelihood shown that he is right.

As for how this relates to Trfel/rsoul.....dunno.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:35 GMT
#653
I say no but I don't think I think Trfel's question is weird because Trfel could very well assume that Palmar could read marv based on 'heya' and 'this is delightful.'
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:40 GMT
#661
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.

Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:41 GMT
#663
On August 27 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game

##unvote
Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game.
Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point.


On what basis?

On the basis that they took over the thread entirely.
Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't.

What about their interactions makes it unlikely that one is scum and the other isn't? Because from the looks of it to me it could be either both town or one/one...I agree that mafia/mafia makes no sense in any world.

Because they can both read each other extremely well and due to the amount of back-and-forth they have already had, it's likely that one would have found something about the other strange already.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:43 GMT
#666


0:54
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:49 GMT
#676
On August 27 2015 01:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:04 Vivax wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 00:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Catching up.
Frigging euro dominated game

##unvote
Should have just said marv/Palmar dominated game.
Which is fine I suppose since they're both extremely likely to be town at this point.


On what basis?

On the basis that they took over the thread entirely.
Unless they are BOTH scum and are playing beyond both of their usual abilities which to me frankly seems near impossible, it's extremely unlikely based on their interactions that one of them is scum and the other isn't.

What about their interactions makes it unlikely that one is scum and the other isn't? Because from the looks of it to me it could be either both town or one/one...I agree that mafia/mafia makes no sense in any world.

Because they can both read each other extremely well and due to the amount of back-and-forth they have already had, it's likely that one would have found something about the other strange already.

It's EXACTLY the amount of back and forth that I find disconcerting. Like, they have back and forth every game but it's a LOT in this game and they IMMEDIATELY townread one another (at least it looks that way to me.) In my experience that's a result of one of them being mafia and trying hard to get the other to townread them, saying all the right things, etc. Both Palmar AND Marv are capable of fooling the other, it just takes effort that generally neither of them are willing to put in. Who's to say they aren't willing to put it in this game?

I only mention it because it looks like you're building town/town marv/Palmar as the foundation of your thought process this game and I'm getting bad feels from Palmar.

Marv didn't townread Palmar per se but he didn't scumread him either after all of that back and forth.
I have a pretty hard time believing Palmar is scum after getting the business in exactly this way in an earlier game. Rsoul can vouch for me. It's more likely to me that Palmar is wrong than scum, I think.

twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:52 GMT
#681
You know, in all my time on this site I have still NEVER been in a game with scummarv.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:53 GMT
#683
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 16:59 GMT
#695
On August 27 2015 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs

Yeh that was a very good one.
One of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Marv do you not think that VE has similar cohones to me in that he does not fear taking you/Palmar on as scum?
I don't think Palmar's OMGUS has any particular true reason behind it but I don't think VE is ruled out.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 17:01 GMT
#700
On August 27 2015 01:58 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
Rsoul!!
Hi!!!
Hi!!!!!!!
Let's play so I can be not mad at you anymore.
Talk to me about stuff.

Thoughts on Cheesecake?
Moosy?


dunnae about cc but i still like moosy <3


Eugh.
I mean I guess the disconnect between older and newer players exists in this game.
You probably are also more experienced with the 'good' wave than the bad one and know less about older players (hence the me being mad at you ) so you're less likely to find moosy's early praises of me strange...? Or maybe I'm just biased.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#703
On August 27 2015 02:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
No wait.
Dumb.
Shadow game.

yes, how could you forget one of my most comprehensive mafia triumphs

Yeh that was a very good one.
One of the best games I've ever had the pleasure of playing in.

Marv do you not think that VE has similar cohones to me in that he does not fear taking you/Palmar on as scum?
I don't think Palmar's OMGUS has any particular true reason behind it but I don't think VE is ruled out.

Wait wait wait, have you even READ my posts? I've had nearly an IDENTICAL thought process as you have based on your posts, and you're not ruling me out? Are you fucking mafia Wave?!?!?

Two things.
First you should know that when I townread you, I'm generally right and I do so on my own time.
Second, mind-melding has gotten me bitten in the ass more often than not so I didn't even really register much of that.

You can call me scum for not calling you town, fine, but just know it's a shitty reason.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 26 2015 17:03 GMT
#705
On August 27 2015 02:03 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 27 2015 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:56 rsoultin wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:39 MoosyDoosy wrote:
On August 27 2015 01:38 rsoultin wrote:
Message to a non-jatty jat:

When do you plan on showing up to this game?

-your not-so-friendly neighborhood raoul

rsoul, do you think Palmar could have read marv based on "heya" and "this is delightful"?

If you say yes, then that means Trfel's question was valid.

If you say no, then that means Trfel's question was weird and we need to take action on it.


i know that truffle's question did not raise red flags with me, which generally means that the context

(and y'all are taking this out of context lovelies)

makes the question make sense. when i review it i fully expect to find someone else scumreading marv (wave/ve?) and him saying well i want to wait and see what palmar thinks

in that context which as i said since no red flags when i read it, i completely expect to find, there is not a damn thing weird about this supposed "question" and jat pinging him out on it is puke-worthy

it's possible i misread. doubt it

There is literally 0 reason for rfel to say that at this point. It is pure filler. You pinging me out for this is puke-worthy.


prove it ^^

Trfel posts WAY better filler as scum.
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