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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 07 2015 09:26 GMT
#3221
On September 07 2015 18:23 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 18:20 marvellosity wrote:
I'm so glad VE was mafia

l
a
z
y

m
o
f
o

Seriously. One post making fun of our hopeless lynch after day2. For shame...

what has laziness got to do with anything? D:

I wasn't able to post so I didn't. I checked the lynch at like 2am in the middle of a houseparty i didn't get home from until monday evening
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 07 2015 10:11 GMT
#3222
On September 07 2015 18:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 18:05 Palmar wrote:
On September 07 2015 12:19 Vivax wrote:
On September 07 2015 04:19 Palmar wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:20 Vivax wrote:
On September 06 2015 19:03 Palmar wrote:
VE played quite well for a stretch btw, impressive scumgame. He just got kinda screwed over by everyone randomly deciding to act like a supertownie at some point.


Except that his tracker claim murdered me

...

I think I would have gotten you lynched anyway.


The idea of Trfel being mafia was stuck in CC's head at the time, me being blue would have allowed me to push the fear that you and Trfel were mafia doing a play after KSC would have been lynched. I would further have pushed that notion by pointing out how you pushed me on that day instead of lynching the claimed scum KSC.

What lost us the game is that we couldn't just proceed to lynch KSC and go on with the rest, me having claimed blue (either PGO or veteran) and VE doing something else, cause VE claimed tracker in his attempt to lynch Palmar and save KSC, but fact of the matter is that it ended up completely messing up my own plans mentioned above. I felt backstabbed by VE there cause I didn't see it coming.

Still.

I don't know how much you value my persuasive abilities, but I would have yelled and screamed to get you lynched (over KSC) that day.

Maybe I'd have failed, who knows. But I was coming after you.

Bro, I had to tell you that Vivax was confirmed mafia from your pov :p

Yes, because I didn't think about him being mechanically confirmed because I was convinced in my analytical conclusion.
Computer says mafia
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 07 2015 11:19 GMT
#3223
i was lazy

people can bash me for that

the whole night phase i just...went i should reread...i should do that analysis that nets me mafia...naaaaaah can't be assed, i'll just do it during the day phase

...that worked well
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 07 2015 11:19 GMT
#3224
not that people really care if i'm lazy or not lol i'm not exactly known for being the best scum hunter ^^
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 11:44 GMT
#3225
Being lazy isn't that bad as long as you don't call other people scum for being lazy :p

But seriously the n1 kills were questionable. No offense to WoS/rsoul but there would have been much better kills.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 11:48 GMT
#3226
WoS was in half of towns scumlist and rsoultin was just wrong as fuck.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 07 2015 11:54 GMT
#3227
eh clearly part of it was medic-dodging and to scum's credit they almost didn't kill me for exactly that reason, jat lol ><
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 11:57 GMT
#3228
I don't know why they medic dodged in the first place. A save wouldn't have meant more mislynches. And they had Palmar and Trfel as masons too...
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 07 2015 13:15 GMT
#3229
I thought the rsoul kill was very good. She was universally townread.
Computer says mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 07 2015 13:24 GMT
#3230
yup. rsoul kill was annoying (from my pov). Wave kill was cool because he was kinda disputed and it was good to find out whether i was right or not
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 14:03 GMT
#3231
On September 07 2015 22:15 Palmar wrote:
I thought the rsoul kill was very good. She was universally townread.

She was harddefending all 3 mafia though.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-07 14:04:44
September 07 2015 14:03 GMT
#3232
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 14:05 GMT
#3233
I was also universally townread. Marv too. Anyways, was not as bad as the Wave shot I can agree with that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-09-07 14:07:01
September 07 2015 14:05 GMT
#3234
On September 07 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either

Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote.

On August 29 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming

strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)

town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game

town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town

poe

condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually

tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-

Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?


- i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games
- vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this)
- he didn't

- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.


- it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it
- this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit

Right before deadline.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 07 2015 14:09 GMT
#3235
i never get hit n1 though xD

always one of

a) higher priorities
b) medic concerns

seem to prevent it
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 07 2015 14:31 GMT
#3236
Vivax you just got the VE Special. You can blame me all you want, you can fume and feel backstabbed and be upset, but in the end, it was just a play in a game that we were losing anyway. I'm sorry you got lynched. You would have gotten lynched without my claim.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
September 07 2015 14:31 GMT
#3237
Anyone who has played with me knows to expect the unexpected if I'm on your mafia team. It one of my "charms".
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
September 07 2015 14:57 GMT
#3238
On September 07 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either

Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote.

Show nested quote +
On August 29 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming

strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)

town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game

town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town

poe

condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually

tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-

Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?


- i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games
- vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this)
- he didn't

- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.


- it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it
- this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit

Right before deadline.


eh...one of my (few) strengths is claims? not that y'all needed me at all for that lol ><

that i was wrong is clear. the assumption that in a 48 hour period anyone would just keep their reads and never change their mind, though, is short-sighted i think -shrugs-

marv and palmar were my strongest reads lol >< and palmar only because i absolutely refuse to consider until proven wrong that my town play lines up with his scum play so neatly...that would be very demoralizing
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
September 07 2015 15:28 GMT
#3239
On September 07 2015 23:57 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2015 23:05 justanothertownie wrote:
On September 07 2015 23:03 marvellosity wrote:
who cares

like people don't re-evaluate after n1?

edit: she definitely wasn't "hard defending" vivax either

Yes, she absolutely was. Wait let me get the quote.

On August 29 2015 06:55 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:50 rsoultin wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:47 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 29 2015 06:43 rsoultin wrote:
so, ye, shitty lazy rsoul reads post incoming

strong town
marv - lock town (don't care about you wafflers)

town
vivax - tangentially aggressive/not his scum game
palmar - too similar d1 thoughts
wave - disorganized/not his scum game

town leans
ve - anger/aggression/frustration says town ve
jat - irritating but his play has the "jattyness" i didn't see earlier
ksc - scum game is worse than this
moosy - chaotic/tone says town

poe

condor - more likely scum if hopeless is town than if hopeless is scum? almost want to punt him up into town leans though
hopeless - could just be awful though
trfel - so...yeah. fuck this shit like...it feels like he's deliberately avoiding me in thread and i just came to the very uncomfortable conclusion that i'm actually more sure of at least 4 players than i am of him, which should never happen if he's town and actually playing
CC - gut scumread...there's a disconnect somewhere...i'll figure out what it is eventually

tldr:
condor could be town actually maybe
and i think truffle may actually be scum and i've just been stupid an entire day phase and jat's gonna end up crowing end game and i hate you jat -_-

Quite a few surprises in here. Besides the obvious:
What makes you think Wave is disorganized and why do you think he couldn't fake that as scum?
How would you characterize Vivax scumgame?
How can you say Kelsiers scumgame is worse than this when he just played a very good scumgame?


- i think he could fake it as scum but he doesn't, and it feels like he's approached this game very naturally instead of with the purpose and deliberateness i'd expect and have seen in his scum games
- vivax's scumgame is awful, boring, and not terribly aggressive (i.e. not this)
- he didn't

- I think you are overestimating WoS scumgame but fair enough.
- I would argue he has been boring and not terribly aggressive for most of this game at least.
- If you say so.


- it's a toneread so :/ it's possible but i feel good about it
- this is more than a toneread and i'd fight with people trying to lynch viva, straight up...it's partially how he does his own shit

Right before deadline.


eh...one of my (few) strengths is claims? not that y'all needed me at all for that lol ><

that i was wrong is clear. the assumption that in a 48 hour period anyone would just keep their reads and never change their mind, though, is short-sighted i think -shrugs-

marv and palmar were my strongest reads lol >< and palmar only because i absolutely refuse to consider until proven wrong that my town play lines up with his scum play so neatly...that would be very demoralizing

I am not saying you wouldn't have changed your mind but still - why shoot the player on the complete wrong track over those who aren't? Very strange choice to me.
:/
Anyways let's keep it at that before people start saying I am bashing your play again.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 07 2015 15:33 GMT
#3240
well, other people seem to grasp the decision, so the fact you don't understand is your own failure, not anyone else's
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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