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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 15:40 GMT
#193
I do not get ruxxar thinks there is nothing to talk about as there are contradicting reads to his & between other people.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 15:41 GMT
#194
Damdred why do you think rsoultin is town?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 15:52 GMT
#199
On August 12 2015 00:46 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not get ruxxar thinks there is nothing to talk about as there are contradicting reads to his & between other people.


Nah, just different opinions.

Okay so what's Vivax' opinion?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 15:59 GMT
#202
On August 12 2015 00:56 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 12 2015 00:46 ruXxar wrote:
On August 12 2015 00:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not get ruxxar thinks there is nothing to talk about as there are contradicting reads to his & between other people.


Nah, just different opinions.

Okay so what's Vivax' opinion?


Doesn't like artanis cuz feels, pretty meh.
I'd like to know more tbh.

Okay so why are you asking VE and not Vivax?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:00 GMT
#204
Okay VE can be town. Maybe.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:01 GMT
#205
On August 12 2015 01:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
The real question is: why isn't anyone else suspicious of Trfel if he's NOT mafia. That's the real question.

except a lot of people are.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:06 GMT
#210
ruxxar, you and i have no idea where rsoultin actually stands because the read progression from her on Trfel doesn't really make any sense to me.

Plamar has not posted anything for real, same goes with Hopeless, and deconduo & purplehaze havn't posted anything.
Vivax hasn't mentioned anything other than Artanis so i guess something about his read on Artanis has to do with Trfel, because if he read Trfel as town he should not have a problem with Artanis atm.

So like, it's me and Artanis (maybe rsoul) and Damdred who do read Trfel AS TOWN at this point of the game.
I don't think your question is a good one at this point of the game. If Trfel is town why would scum push him now would be a better question?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:08 GMT
#212
And there is one thing in your case on Trfel btw. I won't comment on it yet, i wanna see him answer first.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:09 GMT
#214
On August 12 2015 01:08 Vivax wrote:
I prefer not to push Artanis, I'm pretty comfortable with him doing nothing when he doesn't have to.

Show nested quote +
Vivax hasn't mentioned anything other than Artanis so i guess something about his read on Artanis has to do with Trfel, because if he read Trfel as town he should not have a problem with Artanis atm.


Being a feels read, your assumption is wrong. Call it a tone read or whatever but when I read Artanis posts they didn't strike me in a townie way, doesn't have anything to do with Trfel.


Okay.
Well i also have a meta-read on Artanis and he is my strongest town read at this moment.
I don't think i have ever been wrong on his alignment as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:10 GMT
#216
On August 12 2015 01:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
Because he's done objectively scummy things, things I've pointed out. But you're right, looking back others have pointed out things about Trfel, so it's a moot point anyway.

What i mean is like, i think Artanis and Damdred are both really really likely to be town here.
If you put me there aswell, you get a three man town circle who share a read.

Why would you push against that as mafia (assuming Trfel is town here)?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:11 GMT
#218
On August 12 2015 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
Man you weren't in his last scumgame with me -.-

I don't care. I read the game to some extent and to be honest i had a townread on Artanis there but that has nothing to do with where my meta is based on, because i was not in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:14 GMT
#221
On August 12 2015 01:11 Vivax wrote:
The one thing that bothers me about Trfel is that he calls Chez including Damdred as if it's something then finds a valid explanation for himself that doesn't lead to "and this is why he's mafia/suspicious".

Chez applying the Chezinu rule must be new to him.

Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote:
You're boring.

Well, I'm a bit suspicious of him. Reason being that he included Damdred voting for Chezinu in his unofficial vote count.
On August 11 2015 14:11 Chezinu wrote:
Unofficial Vote Count


(1) Trfel - Chezinu
(2) Chezinu - Trfel, Damdred

Have not Voted: raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], rsoultin, ruXxar, Palmar, prplhz, deconduo, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, Vivax
I'm assuming the reason for this is Damdred saying that he hopes a vigilante shoots him:
On August 11 2015 11:48 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
>> i don't suppose you have some magic xata-type way of reading a chez? i don't really remember you having one in ippo


kinda hope a big shoots chez XD so I can ignore him or hope he says smart things.
I just don't see this bothering a player with as distinct and stubborn of a playstyle as Chezinu. It feels a bit too sensitive.

And that is scummy then because of...?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:16 GMT
#222
ruxxar i was talking to VE in the post you quoted.
If you read that (and the thread) properly you would have probably figured that out because of the last paragraph.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:20 GMT
#229
On August 12 2015 01:18 Vivax wrote:
I'm also strongly in favour of starting a wagon on Palmar for no particular reason other than that he takes strong pride in his play and only blames himself when he gets lynched, nevertheless calling everybody an idiot who is voting for him.

Day 1 is mostly better for a show than for the reads and a tryharding Palmar is always a good show, and on top of that informative.

Well you shouldn't be.
Palmar does his shit sooner or later.
If it's too late then it is a good idea.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:22 GMT
#232
\o/ ruxxar \o/
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:26 GMT
#238
On August 11 2015 11:49 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

mostly just that it's early and i'd expect some more hemming and hawing rather than just a caveat at the end?


On August 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
eh, yeah, tone read bit is inconclusive in general

loose with the joking, tight with the read, but the humor's on point :/ lol though tbf the not hemming and hawing bit is tone...that's what he usually does. indecisive bugger

anyway, i'm out

nite damdy!

On August 11 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 18:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


If you are talking about this post, yes it is the one thing stopping me from having a strong town read on trfel.

With how much you played with trfel it is just weird for an early read.

I honestly don't think I mind the read as much as the first and last line. The arguments itself suggest he's pretty certain ("hard for me to see her... be mafia") yet both the first and last sentence seed doubt about his own argument and make it more likely it's ignored.


this, this, this lol ><

the artie is more articulate than me apparently ^^ not surprising

although kinda not this? sorta this

hrum

more like

hey guys i'm not sure

but no reasons as to why he's not in the read itself? kinda getting the feeling it's just uber nitpicky now, though lol ><

also, damdy, i don't really understand the distinction you're trying to draw :/ my impression of truffle reads are written arguments with himself but uh...okay?

nh...ruxxy isn't happy this game? whyyyyy?

On August 11 2015 22:36 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching rayn, damdy -beats with stick- today ^^

kinda like artie and truffle (after i went to bed, sneaky )

mmmm

ye

\o/ errands time!


On August 11 2015 11:38 rsoultin wrote:
lol -shrugs- c'est la vie

no rush lol ><

mmm townlean sorta maybe on a truffle lol >< i was actually more fine with him until his read on me

On August 11 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Then dissapearances happen.

do you disagree with my tr rs


eh, seemed a touch overexplained? but then again, it's truffle >< lol

i doubt he can play with me that easily as scum with our history together ^^

rsoultin please help me out here.
What is going on in your head?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:28 GMT
#241
EBWOP: meh some quotes ended up in the wrong place chronologically but you can sure check the timestamps.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:32 GMT
#246
fucking fuck. It was all messed up.
EBWOP:
On August 11 2015 11:38 rsoultin wrote:
lol -shrugs- c'est la vie

no rush lol ><

mmm townlean sorta maybe on a truffle lol >< i was actually more fine with him until his read on me

town
On August 11 2015 11:40 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 11:38 Damdred wrote:
Then dissapearances happen.

do you disagree with my tr rs


eh, seemed a touch overexplained? but then again, it's truffle >< lol

i doubt he can play with me that easily as scum with our history together ^^

indecisive(?)
On August 11 2015 11:49 rsoultin wrote:
mmm

mostly just that it's early and i'd expect some more hemming and hawing rather than just a caveat at the end?


On August 11 2015 12:55 rsoultin wrote:
eh, yeah, tone read bit is inconclusive in general

loose with the joking, tight with the read, but the humor's on point :/ lol though tbf the not hemming and hawing bit is tone...that's what he usually does. indecisive bugger

anyway, i'm out

nite damdy!

indecisive
On August 11 2015 22:28 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2015 18:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:40 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:23 Trfel wrote:
I know this sounds really stupid, but...

Rsoultin seems a bit towny here. Her opening post felt relaxed, and more importantly, happy to be in the game. Given that rsoultin really doesn't like playing scum, has played scum frequently in her last several games, and had a very frustrating game as town that ended earlier today (despite the game being a victory), it's hard for me to see her actually being happy as mafia this early on in the game.

I hope I'm not making the same mistake yet again T.T


If you are talking about this post, yes it is the one thing stopping me from having a strong town read on trfel.

With how much you played with trfel it is just weird for an early read.

I honestly don't think I mind the read as much as the first and last line. The arguments itself suggest he's pretty certain ("hard for me to see her... be mafia") yet both the first and last sentence seed doubt about his own argument and make it more likely it's ignored.


this, this, this lol ><

the artie is more articulate than me apparently ^^ not surprising

although kinda not this? sorta this

hrum

more like

hey guys i'm not sure

but no reasons as to why he's not in the read itself? kinda getting the feeling it's just uber nitpicky now, though lol ><

also, damdy, i don't really understand the distinction you're trying to draw :/ my impression of truffle reads are written arguments with himself but uh...okay?

nh...ruxxy isn't happy this game? whyyyyy?

scumlean(?)
On August 11 2015 22:36 rsoultin wrote:
not lynching rayn, damdy -beats with stick- today ^^

kinda like artie and truffle (after i went to bed, sneaky )

mmmm

ye

\o/ errands time!


town


That's about half of her posts (which are not joking with Trfel).
It should not be that hard to come to a conclusion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:40 GMT
#254
On August 12 2015 01:35 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2015 00:55 VisceraEyes wrote:
On August 11 2015 15:01 Trfel wrote:
You're boring.

Well, I'm a bit suspicious of him. Reason being that he included Damdred voting for Chezinu in his unofficial vote count.
On August 11 2015 14:11 Chezinu wrote:
Unofficial Vote Count


(1) Trfel - Chezinu
(2) Chezinu - Trfel, Damdred

Have not Voted: raynpelikoneet, Artanis[Xp], rsoultin, ruXxar, Palmar, prplhz, deconduo, VisceraEyes, Hopeless1der, Vivax
I'm assuming the reason for this is Damdred saying that he hopes a vigilante shoots him:
On August 11 2015 11:48 Damdred wrote:
On August 11 2015 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
>> i don't suppose you have some magic xata-type way of reading a chez? i don't really remember you having one in ippo


kinda hope a big shoots chez XD so I can ignore him or hope he says smart things.
I just don't see this bothering a player with as distinct and stubborn of a playstyle as Chezinu. It feels a bit too sensitive.

I really disliked this post about why he's suspicious of Chezinu. Like he sought Damdred's opinion of Chez, and when he didn't bite he gave this as reasoning to dislike Chez. But like...what about this is suspicious? What about being "sensitive" makes Chezinu mafia?

Coupled with his turnaround on rsoultin, which in my opinion is too fast given A) he literally was just fooled by rsoultin and B) she hasn't done a whole lot in the game, and I think he's the most suspicious character in the game.

I don't really know what this means with regard to rsoultin and Chezinu, but I think Trfel is mafia.

##Vote: Trfel


Also note the time VE. I was stalking the forums and watching view counts before posts. They ignored me long time before posting. Never really addressed me. They couldn't vote me cause that would make me right with my count. They know the Chez Rule it seems. They avoided contact it seemed.

Dude your Chezinu rule vote tally has most likely two townies in voting for you...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 11 2015 16:41 GMT
#257
On August 12 2015 01:40 Damdred wrote:
Um sorta tempted to vote ruxxar

No don't.
I may have a better target.
not sure yet.
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