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On July 13 2015 19:38 KelsierSC wrote: sulfur's exit post saying that "4 people not voting means it doesn't count" indicates mafia is in the non votes who could have swayed it for him.
Yeah I don't necessarily read it in that way. It could have just been townies that would have sheeped the case on me.
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On July 14 2015 02:22 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2015 09:38 Half the Sky wrote:On July 13 2015 08:17 MoosyDoosy wrote: nonono Sulfurus was busing me. I'm Mafia too guys plz kill me. XD
Alright down to business. Apparently my bait was successful although I wasn't around to catch the slip from Sulfurus. Glad to see that Half the Sky caught it. I'm going to actually work from here on out. Re-reading the thread seriously. anyhow....if you are town, you are in a good position to tell us who the scummers - if any - were on your wagon. Who do you think they were? He's in an even BETTER position to tell us, if he's scum! :D Show nested quote +MoosyDoosy wrote: tbh I have 2 suspicions but I'd rather wait. If I'm right, I'd rather not say it and die. So you don't want to be night-killed? You only want to be mislynched? Don't worry, there's no chance of the bad guys killing you, no matter what suspicions you want to share. You could name the other 2 mafia members, which one has which role, their social security numbers, and what dinner plans they have for tonight, and they still are not killing you. You're right. I am scum. I was going to start participating but you just killed off my drive. Forget the epitaph folks. Let's continue to be a shitty townie!
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On July 14 2015 08:11 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Note: I don't really think Moosy is mafia. I want him to help or get out. If you don't think I'm Mafia then why the hell would you try and kill me. Like are you trying to waste a Day lynch on me so that Mafia can get a free kill? Or are you just trying to decrease the townie count for Mafia to win?
I won't even address you saying I didn't help because it was my trap with my shitty behavior in the first place which let us snag Sulfurus. I was kinda starting to believe that it wouldn't work but Sulf did slip. And in case you actually start to believe otherwise, I gave plenty of hints I was going to try something new this game which happened to be the trap. Why do you think my first post was "We are all sheep?" lol
Overall, your vote makes absolutely no sense unless you're trying to help Mafia. Either way, I'm completely fine with it. Waste your vote on me and see where it gets you.
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On July 14 2015 09:04 Grokken wrote: By the way Moosy, what happened to the post you were gonna make the last minute of night? I decided not to do it since n00bKing was right. There was >1% chance I was gonna die. It's better for Mafia to keep me alive since I'll attract people who are tunneled like Ghandi while I'm not doing anything for town right now besides my initial trap. I still have my thoughts but I prefer to keep them to myself until I find a slip.
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On July 14 2015 08:10 Fidei86 wrote: I think that there is actually a fairly decent chance that Ghandi is scum here. Reasons:
1. His entire filter is filler and waffle. He defends Grokken, but then backtracks from giving a read.he promised to give his reads, then didn't.
2. He talks a bit about the difficulty of getting good reads in the first day, then says he wants to flush out lurkers but not vote for them.
3. He apologises for being inactive but then does nothing about it.
4. This is a bit of a stretch, but I think it makes most sense for a more experienced player to NK Kelsier. Assuming Mafia were scared off NKing HTS or n00b (both obvious medic saves), why go after Kelsier, unless you knew he was a strong player/knows he knows your meta.
5. The total lie he just told about TJH. YES number 4 is exactly what I was thinking. The kill on Kelsier was definitely an attempt from Mafia to kill a blue role but this shows us that there HAS to be a veteran Mafia(s) who's thinking that far. Or the Mafia is completely clueless and we don't have much to fear.
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On July 14 2015 09:29 GhandiEAGLE wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2015 09:24 TJHuggins wrote: I am dealing with someone that is taking priority in real life right now so I do not have time to write out a big post. I will give the essential information that I can provide to town tomorrow. probably.
By essential information is that a blue claim? Or just something your saying. Also in response to MD's most recent post, is there guarantee of an "experienced" mafia? I thought the roles were 100% randomized. There is no guarantee and roles are randomized but the conclusion I'm drawing is that there HAS to be an "experienced" mafia.
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I think it's Ghandi but I've made it a habit to sheep n00bKing.
##Vote TJHuggins
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This is what I don't understand. Ghandi makes this really long post about me as Mafia disregarding the discussion of whether or not it's based on solid analysis. Then right afterwards when the general thread sentiment is that I'm a townie, he immediately says that he "honestly" doesn't think I'm Mafia.
Even if he's trying to get me to interact, he should present his argument in a way that would make me take it seriously. By taking his argument back in his very next post, I feel absolutely no inclination to respond since he says he thinks I'm townie anyway.
Also, his filter before I started questioning him is garbage so I don't see why he finds an issue with me beginning to question him. I merely saw an opportunity to ask Ghandi a question especially since he hadn't really been productive before so I wanted to see what he would say.
So this is for Ghandi: Can you explain the reason for your sudden switch in saying I'm a townie out of nowhere? Before your post against me, you had been insinuating that I wasn't a townie by saying that you didn't trust me:
On July 13 2015 08:55 GhandiEAGLE wrote: Sorry about being useless/afk, small stuff that takes priority came up. From now on I have my full attention on the game, will drop in my current reads (spoilers; I don't trust Moose) later. Then you make your long post against me but back out of it in the very next post. There's no indication of a changing thought process in between so I'm curious as to your reaction.
At least TJHuggins on the other hand strongly believed I was Mafia and had strong words about how the votes turned out.
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On July 15 2015 10:33 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I can. I thought about it more. I'd gone back and forth on it a few times, and that was one of those instances. I changed my mind on it after that long post before anyone else talked about it. I still don't have a strong pull on you on way or the other, though, which is why I didn't put you on my definitive town list last time I made a large post. What about Grokken's post? He basically concluded that I couldn't be Mafia in the post right after your post against me.
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Eh, Ghandi isn't even defending himself. XD
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^ So you're saying you picked Grokken just because you couldn't pick anyone else to make an argument around? If that's the case, we can basically discount your whole post on him right?
If you want to make a post on TJHuggins and if you think that he is Mafia then feel free to do so. Don't let anything stop you. Mayhaps you'll draw attention to a detail that no one else would have noticed which will make everyone switch votes.
I also dislike how you're thinking about how others will perceive you as town or not. If you're town there's really no need to worry about that since it WILL show in your actions especially if you post a ton.
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On July 16 2015 04:17 GhandiEAGLE wrote: I wouldn't have posted about Grokken if he wasn't the scummiest person on my list. Don't spin it as "just because I couldn't pick anyone else". There's nothing that I said that should make you discount the argument. I'm keeping my vote there for a reason. What I disliked about that post was how you did everything that you criticized Grokken for.
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I did not ninja vote and I did not change my vote. Please change your list before you raise all hell against me Half the Sky. Go the goddamn voting thread for the rest of you people to confirm this. I did not change my vote off TJHuggins.
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On July 16 2015 07:24 Half the Sky wrote: Assumptions - Sulfurus wagon was a pure wagon.
Starting point VCA
Day 1
Sulfurus(4): Half the Sky, Fidei86, Kelsier SC, Noobking <--------likely pure wagon MoosyDoosy(3): Grokken, TJHuggins, Sulfurus NydusHerMain (1): silentwarrior Fidei86(1): NydusHerMain
Not Voting(4): WonnaPlay, scott31337, GhandiEAGLE. MoosyDoosy
Day 2 <4h to EoD
GhandiEAGLE(4): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior TJHuggins(4): Ticktock, Noobking, MoosyDoosy, WonnaPlay Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
Not Voting(2): scott31337, TJHuggins
Day 2 <40m to EoD
GhandiEAGLE(5): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay TJHuggins(4): Noobking, MoosyDoosy, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE scott31337 (1): Tictock
Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
Day 2 EoD
GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE
Not Voting(1): TJHuggins
Alright, give me some time to figure this out.... [/QUOTE] Yeah why the hell am I on GhandiEAGLE. Like go read the voting thread buddy or look at the mod list...
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On July 16 2015 07:30 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On July 16 2015 07:18 Half the Sky wrote:On July 16 2015 07:11 Tictock wrote: Oh MD ninja voted did he?
MD we need to start hearing about your reads man. You've been a terrible & unhelpful all game long and now it looks like you setup a last minuet vote switch to GE.
Actually MD is probably the best lynch tomorrow if he does not explain himself in solid detail. I would never bring him into MyLo or LyLo with the way he's been playing.
Scott is in that same boat, so between the 2 of them.
TJ at least had decent content D1. Wrong, WonnaPlay hammered. What do you mean by MD set him up? Ninjavoting is shite though. But in your world, if MD is scum, it means he set up his own teammate Sulfurus to be lynched d1. Do you think he was faking his breadcrumbs and Sulfurus wanted to bus him d1? Why would a scum player purposely act scummy (referring to MD here)? If MD and Sulfurus were scum, why would Sulfurus slip like he did d1? He could have just said nothing. And TJ had content but some of it was questionable. I never said any of the bolded line, think you misread something. Well MD effectily wasted his vote D1 and now D2 ninja voted (and not in the voting thread mind you...) onto someone who confirmed town. ... ehh Thinking back on D1 your right Sulf did make that post where he basically said he didn't care if MD got lynched. I also get what you mean by his play, but that doesn't mean we should accept him continuing that level of play. Still my point was that MD needs to start giving some real reads, because I'm not comfortable bringing him into late game with what we've seen from him thus far. I suppose we still have plenty of time before that's an issue though. OMFG I DID NOT NINJA VOTE. Lol plz read the voting thread ya'll. Ugh Half the Sky why did you have to start this shit. Are you trying to kill me or something?
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On July 16 2015 07:00 Onegu wrote: Day 2 Final Vote Count GhandiEAGLE(7): Grokken, Fidei86, Half the Sky, silentwarrior, WonnaPlay ,Ticktock, MoosyDoosy TJHuggins(2): Noobking, scott31337 Grokken(1): GhandiEAGLE Not Voting(1): , TJHuggins Reminder Voting is done here.
It is mandatory to vote. Not doing so will result in a warning a second non vote will result in a modkill and action taken against you in the Mafia ban thread.
Currently GhandiEAGLE is set to be lynched with 7 votes.
Day 1 ends in PLEASE REMEMBER THAT IT IS MANDATORY TO VOTE. Yeah Onegu go fix this since you're mod. I did not vote on GhandiEAGLE. Plz go read the damn voting thread.
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^ Yeah I just saw that as well.
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On July 16 2015 07:58 Half the Sky wrote: Ugh, alright, revising the tables a THIRD time..... XD this is getting a bit out of hand huh?
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So...some analysis and quick filter reading:
Town: n00bKing, Fidei86, Half the Sky, MoosyDoosy
Neutral: silentwarrior, Ticktock
People to look into: TJHuggins, WonnaPlay, Grokken, scott31337
After reading into the 4 ppl at the bottom and GhandiEAGLE's filter again, I'd like to say that I read WonnaPlay as a townie. His thought process moves around a lot like mine did in my first newbie game so I can understand where he comes from. So I'd like to bump him up into the townie circle.
scott3LEET needs to post more because I'm getting Mafia vibes from him with the way he's posting.
The most interesting thing I came across was Grokken and silentwarrior. silentwarrior lists Grokken as town lean while Grokken is starting to look worse and worse. I hate making associative cases but if n00bKing would look into this it would be great because he's decent at sniffing these out.
I'm going to read into Ticktock and TJHuggins some more as well as hunting for some silentwarrior and Grokken interaction.
Thoughts?
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If anything else, Ghandi's death makes me feel guilty.
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