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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 00:46 GMT
#3721
On July 09 2015 09:45 ruXxar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 09:44 Clarity_nl wrote:
I also wanted to stop people from claiming VT.


What do you mean? What's bad about claiming VT?


Well let's just say that Oats claimed VT by saying "everyone has it in their PM" and leave it at that.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
ruXxar
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Norway5669 Posts
July 09 2015 00:47 GMT
#3722
Ah, I get what you mean now.
"alright guys im claiming my role im actually politician I can manipulate a persons vote during the day phase, used it on clarity last phase and forced him to vote for HF. full role name donald trump, definitely town sided". - EBH
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 09 2015 00:49 GMT
#3723
So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia?

Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 00:51 GMT
#3724
On July 09 2015 09:49 Breshke wrote:
So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia?

Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure


Pretty much. On the other hand if damdred somehow flips JK I think milo is likely town and ritoky scum.

But I expect damdred to flip scum.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 00:52 GMT
#3725
Catching up quickly before I head to bed...

First off, well done Palmar. marv lives another day

I'm most inclined to agree that Damdred is scum here. Re-read his filter and agreed with Harkon/EBH comments on Damdred.

And geript like I said n1, I'll admit I didn't understand your explanation at first but once I did the metaread on WoS (whom Damdred pushed) that both OWS and marv confirmed, I became more confident you and KSC were onto something with Damdred.

Well done.

As for other roles...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 00:53 GMT
#3726
I shouldn't be going down the host WIFOM route, but what is the likeliness of BH throwing 2 scum RBs in a semi-open setup?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 00:54 GMT
#3727
Well... Any questions etc for me before I raid tonight? If not I'll just massive read post tommorow
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
July 09 2015 00:54 GMT
#3728
On July 09 2015 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 09:49 Breshke wrote:
So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia?

Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure


Pretty much. On the other hand if damdred somehow flips JK I think milo is likely town and ritoky scum.

But I expect damdred to flip scum.



Eh this isn't true actually. NVM.


Looks like milo is gonna take his time, I'm going to bed.


WoS would be cool if you could shared some reads and such.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
July 09 2015 00:55 GMT
#3729
On July 09 2015 09:54 Damdred wrote:
Well... Any questions etc for me before I raid tonight? If not I'll just massive read post tommorow


are you claiming 1 shot, 2 shot or normal
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 00:57 GMT
#3730
I think it was said before it was 2-shot.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
July 09 2015 00:57 GMT
#3731
2 shot. But even if I lived it doesn't matter as id just get a rb on me or shot now.

So might be better to lynch me take my reads and see if any have merit when I flip jk
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 01:00 GMT
#3732
Scott, to answer your question -

On July 09 2015 08:35 scott31337 wrote:
Sorry Damdred, you play better then this.

I had a post on HTS and how she questioned me on the wanderer.+ Show Spoiler +


On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote:
It's a blue sham lets see if it works Kappa

Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar.

What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?


It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion.

It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped


The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1?

Somehow I doubt it.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.

I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.


Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.

Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?

What do you think of Palmar so far?

I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.


(see bolded in second quote)

So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI?

Breshke or anyone else - comments?


I believed BM's wanderer claim just like I believed your miller claim - because it was in your first post and no one CC'ed. Like I said, BM wasn't a terrible lynch (non but I was pretty confident it was true.

Should I not believe your miller claim?


Scott that's not at all I was getting at. You described my claim by talking about my gameplay. As in the concept that there has to be behaviour to back it up.

When you believed BM or made the argument for him, you mentioned it was the only post he made. There was no gameplay to back it up. That's the contradiction I'm trying to point out.

Am I making sense now?
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 09 2015 01:01 GMT
#3733
On July 09 2015 09:54 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 09 2015 09:51 Clarity_nl wrote:
On July 09 2015 09:49 Breshke wrote:
So if damdred is mafia does that mean milo is mafia?

Or could there be two mafia RB with this many roles I'm not sure


Pretty much. On the other hand if damdred somehow flips JK I think milo is likely town and ritoky scum.

But I expect damdred to flip scum.



Eh this isn't true actually. NVM.


Looks like milo is gonna take his time, I'm going to bed.


WoS would be cool if you could shared some reads and such.

I had a few I thought of earlier but now I forget them.
Gimme a bit I guess.

I'm totally not feeling this game
Somebody vig me lol
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 01:01 GMT
#3734
On July 09 2015 02:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Reading Scott's filter. I don't like the beginning of game mindmeld concept but I remembered he also brought up a good point on BF that initially made me wonder if the latter is is flying under the radar.

What gives me pause (is this the same thing you mean Breshke) is Scott's answer to Damdred's question:

Show nested quote +
On July 08 2015 07:48 scott31337 wrote:
On July 08 2015 07:36 Damdred wrote:
Scott why were you so sure he was town based on an easy to make claim?


It makes sense - His first and basically only post was wanderer. No else claimed wanderer(which they should have if they were D1, like Miller). I see it was a stupid remark like my drunk post the last game and I need to refrain from posting with emotion.

It's not a bad lynch if he was going to be useless anyway I find it funny I started to believe Ziphh when he was mentioning different pages he was going thru in the thread and to give him a chance - and that has somehow stopped


The key words here being "first and basically only post" - I know when he gave me a townlean he also took either a listpost or something else that he considered me towny on. Would he have given me the same read if I did jack all d1?

Somehow I doubt it.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2015 05:15 scott31337 wrote:
On July 07 2015 04:46 boxerfred wrote:
I don't like the Miller claim that HtS spewed out, like he doesn't give a fuck. Reads more like a backup (which is sadly NAI), claiming Miller makes sense as scum and as town. He's threwing out cases and opinions without going too hard for someone. He did the same in the Himalaya game after he got in via replacement, he was scum in there.

I just want to say that before people start sheeping him.


Her, BTW. Usually it's a decent strategy to claim self-aware miller/wanderer in day 1 - if you try it later when you're already checked or being pressured no body will believe it. No body else has claimed miller as of yet (and BM claimed wanderer). I mean don't give her a confirmed town 100%, just look more into her thoughts and agenda - and at the moment they seem okay. HF had a good point though.

Why did you "hardclaim" cop while Rsoul was being pressured? Why did you time it then? Why did you say it at all?

What do you think of Palmar so far?

I guess for now I go with the believe ritoky on his claim for today.


(see bolded in second quote)

So why did he believe BM? BM did jack all after the wanderer post. He tells others to look into MY thoughts and agenda. Why didn't he do the same with BM or even think that the fact there was no thoughts or agenda could be problematic? I don't know. But I don't think this is adding up. TMI?

Breshke or anyone else - comments?


You missed this when I posted it last time HalftheSky.

So should I not believe your miller claim either?
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scott31337
Profile Joined January 2013
United States2979 Posts
July 09 2015 01:02 GMT
#3735
EBWOP Cannot update quick enough.
THIS WAGON IS HITTING MAFIA FOR SURE BOYS!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
July 09 2015 01:02 GMT
#3736
I remember thinking Trfel is town purely because he is playing nothing like the last game where I was scum with him, but I feel like that on its own is kinda silly.

Most of all he's likely town simply because he doesn't act/play this terribly as scum.

brb
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Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 01:04 GMT
#3737
Scott, answer to your last question is you should believe it unless you are scumreading me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 01:04 GMT
#3738
On July 09 2015 10:02 WaveofShadow wrote:
I remember thinking Trfel is town purely because he is playing nothing like the last game where I was scum with him, but I feel like that on its own is kinda silly.

Most of all he's likely town simply because he doesn't act/play this terribly as scum.

brb


I'm thinking he had a VERY similar game like this in Assassination and that was a post-restricted game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 01:06 GMT
#3739
EBWOP - Trfel was a PR in that game.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
July 09 2015 01:07 GMT
#3740
On July 09 2015 08:48 Clarity_nl wrote:
That's making the assumption marv was getting hit and palmar saved him


That is my world as well.

As for the milo/ritoky RB claims...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
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