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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:31 GMT
#1319
(Signals Damdred) Come here bro I need you!
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:32 GMT
#1320
On June 18 2015 13:16 ShoCkeyy wrote:
What kind of response is that? And why are you linking your own game??? Anybody can change there meta while saying "read my past meta". It's not hard.

I can't play like I am as scum check the entire database for all my games as both alignments plus that game we just played together -_-
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:35 GMT
#1324
On June 18 2015 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright

LS

Am I scum?

No you just being bad.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:42 GMT
#1327
On June 18 2015 13:33 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.

Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself
with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you.

People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_-


Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed.

Talk about other stuff

Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me?


I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey

TLDR Case on Shockeyy:
1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons
2. He been making excuses for his poor play
3. Some of posts seemed forced
I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm.


Could you quote the posts which you think seem forced.

These:
On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm
KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole
Bill Murray - idk
ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa
ShoCkeyy - Town
Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.
Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol.
Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum


On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already.

Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any


seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit

you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating


Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point.

I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads.

Kel is just a maybe town.

I know I'm town obviously

I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that


you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town?
There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value.


There are two types of people that play mafia

1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care
2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta

LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree.

As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish.

He's town to me at this juncture.


So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum?

Also can you answer this?
On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:
current state of the thread:

[image loading]

more updates to come.

choppa 4 on the scene.

Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening?


Give it a day or two...

Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them...


You posted afterwards but never responded to this.

NydusHerMain - Town?
Fidei86
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On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ...


Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again?

On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read.


I better see poking this game

Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm
Mig - waiting
GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games.
LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)
wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole
VayneAuthority - Not much
boxerfred - First post is what?

Going to leave now, in-laws are in town.

Context of that post: He haven't posted for a little over 1 hour and seemed kinda forced to give a list of reads plus I felt like his reads weren't as insightful as his last game like when he was around he was pushing shit more than did this game.
On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.

@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?

@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.

The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).

@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.

I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.

Outside the questions in that post it seemed much more fluff than anything.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:43 GMT
#1328
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright

LS

Am I scum?

No you just being bad.


Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then?

Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:46 GMT
#1330
On June 18 2015 13:44 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
Breshke, what is your read on Kelsier?


Lean town

I liked his list post a while back, reads felt good. Seems fairly tunneled on LS but when you read over it it feels fairly townie because LS hasn't really given him a reason to get out of that tunnel other than claiming blue but i understand why this would not change ksc's opinion.

You could also look at it that ksc is jsut trying to push ane asy misslynch but when i read his posts i feel real frustration from him when LS doesn't really give him any answers. So i think it is much more likely to be a townie thing.

How about yourself? Other than the length of his filter.

I tried to answer his questions to the best of my abilities it just he's to tunneled on me to think it from my perspective -_-
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:52 GMT
#1334
On June 18 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.

Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself
with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you.

People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_-


Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed.

Talk about other stuff

Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me?


I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey

TLDR Case on Shockeyy:
1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons
2. He been making excuses for his poor play
3. Some of posts seemed forced
I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm.


Could you quote the posts which you think seem forced.

These:
On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm
KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole
Bill Murray - idk
ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa
ShoCkeyy - Town
Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.
Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol.
Damdred
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum


On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already.

Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any


seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit

you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating


Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point.

I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads.

Kel is just a maybe town.

I know I'm town obviously

I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that


you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town?
There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value.


There are two types of people that play mafia

1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care
2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta

LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree.

As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish.

He's town to me at this juncture.


So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum?

Also can you answer this?
On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:
current state of the thread:

[image loading]

more updates to come.

choppa 4 on the scene.

Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening?


Give it a day or two...

Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them...


You posted afterwards but never responded to this.

NydusHerMain - Town?
Fidei86
+ Show Spoiler +

On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ...


Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again?

On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read.


I better see poking this game

Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm
Mig - waiting
GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games.
LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)
wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole
VayneAuthority - Not much
boxerfred - First post is what?

Going to leave now, in-laws are in town.

Context of that post: He haven't posted for a little over 1 hour and seemed kinda forced to give a list of reads plus I felt like his reads weren't as insightful as his last game like when he was around he was pushing shit more than did this game.
On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.

@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?

@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.

The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).

@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.

I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.

Outside the questions in that post it seemed much more fluff than anything.


So your three reasons for scumming him were

1 bad list post
2. makes excuses
3. posts seemed forced

But 3 is actually just 1 and 2 because the posts you said seemed forced are the list post and him making an excuse.

Frankly i don't think shockey saying shit about not posting much is alignment indicative for him since he did it in witch (might have been post game) but he did do it so it is something he would complain about as either alignment.

I don't know what to say to you LS it doesn't feel like you really think he is scum.

I really do think he's scum I will be extremely honest to you on that. Also I think he did post something about him not much like Day 2/Night 2 area when the game was ending pretty much. But still before that he didn't make really any excuses for not posting in Witchcraft. Here's his filter from there if you want to read it for yourself:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/486363-witchcraft-mini-mafia-iii?user=ShoCkeyy
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 04:58 GMT
#1343
On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright

LS

Am I scum?

No you just being bad.


Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then?

Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town.


Here is my problem:

I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs.

Your interpretation was a huge overreaction.

But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me.

Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt?

It was just something I found odd that was all.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:01 GMT
#1347
On June 18 2015 13:57 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2015 04:59 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Well, if it's like that, I'll just bounce. I have a lot of business I should be dealing with, but I thought this would entertain me in some way outside of business. I can't really provide the effort and time that most of you put into this. Sorry if my reads are "worthless", but they're my honest opinions on people after reading through the thread. Remember, I'm playing from a town point of view, any of you can be mafia to me still. I rather have many coinflips than many town players and end up getting fucked.


Show nested quote +
On June 13 2015 10:15 ShoCkeyy wrote:
See like right now is perfect for me to play, no gf at home, all my business is taken care of and I actually have time to post. Activity is what really kills me and my posting ;\


Both of these are from witch LS and i see both of them as him talking about not being able to post much. The second one is from post game i think

He been complaining about it more this game than last game if I reading his posts correctly this game. The 2nd one was pretty much end of game area.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:03 GMT
#1349
On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.




why so angry?


real life shit and LS' posting.

i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game.

oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit.

the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble.

Hey if you not going to vote me who you going to vote? I gave a TLDR case on Shockeyy in my filter if you want to read it and put your own input in there
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:05 GMT
#1354
On June 18 2015 14:02 Breshke wrote:
LS you still havn't convinced me on shockeyy.

Ive shown you he talked about not being able to post a lot in a game where he was town. So why do his excuses this game make him scum?

He doing it more this game than last game as far I can read his post if I had read them correctly with his wording and pretty much it added nothing really just seemed like he making more excuses this game than last game I played with him. What's your experience playing with him?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:05 GMT
#1355
On June 18 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 14:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.




why so angry?


real life shit and LS' posting.

i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game.

oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit.

the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble.

Hey if you not going to vote me who you going to vote? I gave a TLDR case on Shockeyy in my filter if you want to read it and put your own input in there


it convinced me about 1% of his alignment. so pretty much garbo

What makes it garbo?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:07 GMT
#1358
On June 18 2015 14:06 GlowingBear wrote:
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On June 18 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:04 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.




why so angry?


real life shit and LS' posting.

i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game.

oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit.

the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble.


The second one being...?


bugs


I like when you're angry.

I'm sure you're town now

<3

I had seen him play angry as scum but I think he's town this game he seemed pretty much carefree this game up to this point just sayin
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:09 GMT
#1360
On June 18 2015 14:07 ritoky wrote:
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On June 18 2015 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:05 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:03 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:01 ritoky wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:55 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:52 ritoky wrote:
ugh i am in such a bad headspace right now. reading this thread making me angrier.




why so angry?


real life shit and LS' posting.

i am about to say some fucking anti-town shit and i don't give a fuck. unless LS gets to a place where i can town read him for the remainder of the game today or there is slam dunk mafia i am probably voting on him. and i actually somewhat believe his blue claim is real. the problem is the guy keeps spewing anti-town sentiment every time he posts, seriously....he is going to be left alive all fucking game on this question mark of a claim and every phase we are gonna do the "whooaaaa should i lynch him today? dance" and it will probably cost town the fucking game.

oh an if you're gonna fucking claim masons with damdred instead of your named VT shit, just do it. you're not subtle in the slightest. since you already claimed blue, if you don't do it now never gonna believe that shit.

the state of this game angers me because i think the two people playing the most anti-town are likely town and we are in terrible trouble.

Hey if you not going to vote me who you going to vote? I gave a TLDR case on Shockeyy in my filter if you want to read it and put your own input in there


it convinced me about 1% of his alignment. so pretty much garbo

What makes it garbo?


what this guys said:

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On June 18 2015 13:48 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:25 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:18 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 12:34 Breshke wrote:
On June 18 2015 11:26 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 10:53 Breshke wrote:
Also I really agree with bugs on the LS claim and also agree with rsoul that if he is doing it as scum his teammates have been telling him to do it which basically clear up an world of LS/KSC scum pair because he was the only one to pressure him hardcore i felt. Yay for associative reads.

Yet LS just claiming then not doing anything but defending himself
with his blue claim feels really scummy. Can you do stuff man, if you are town I know you have it in you.

People been pressuring non stop what else was I suppose to do -_-


Does repeating "im blue" do anything? They know you claimed.

Talk about other stuff

Ya want to lynch Shockeyy with me?


I want you to convince me why I should lynch shockey

TLDR Case on Shockeyy:
1. His list post was rather shitty in terms of reasons
2. He been making excuses for his poor play
3. Some of posts seemed forced
I will to vote Boxerfred if Shockeyy doesn't appear to be the lynch today but I think Shockeyy is worse than Boxer atm.


Could you quote the posts which you think seem forced.

These:
On June 17 2015 09:10 ShoCkeyy wrote:
rsoultin - idk wtf they're posting atm
KelsierSC - reminds me of bugs, a butthole, but a town butthole
Bill Murray - idk
ritoky - Channel 4 Choppa
ShoCkeyy - Town
Onegu - Misclaim to VT? We'll see, I'll just give him the benefit of the doubt.
Holyflare - Opening/Only post claims town lol.
Damdred
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On June 17 2015 07:09 Damdred wrote:
So ok claiming town which means ls is scum


On June 17 2015 08:29 Damdred wrote:
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On June 17 2015 08:25 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:21 Damdred wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:15 KelsierSC wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:08 NydusHerMain wrote:
I don't think LS is being that towny o.O. Am I crazy? I'm not saying he's not town but how do people have a "probs town" or "hard town" read on him already.

Because they know my meta? Check the database lpus Witchcraft III for my meta if you want any


seriously can you shut the fuck up already with this shit

you have just taken a shit in your hand and thrown whatever came out into the thread. I don't think your town and bringing up all this meta crap so early on is fucking irritating


Even if I'm right and your town keep the bm out of thread. Its not needed even if you are annoyed at this point.

I'll substantiate later, but I don't believe nhm or ls are capable of posting such as these as scum. Both are somewhat meta based reads.

Kel is just a maybe town.

I know I'm town obviously

I also think gb is a decent shot as town but don't tell him I said that


you can explain ls right now actually...what has he posted that makes him town?
There's a lot of shit but nothing of real value.


There are two types of people that play mafia

1. Players who are capable of changing meta and care
2. Players who only play for one alignment and either refuse or can't change meta

LS belongs in group 2, he's already done several of his town tells at this point. Digging up old,meta cases on him to show how people know him. He's sort of jokey, and he's willing to get into,confrontations to a degree.

As scum he's lazy, he is serious and skittish.

He's town to me at this juncture.


So Damdred, which one is it? Is LS scum cause you're town, or is LS town and you're scum? Or are you both town or scum?

Also can you answer this?
On June 17 2015 08:12 NydusHerMain wrote:
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On June 17 2015 08:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 17 2015 08:09 ritoky wrote:
current state of the thread:

[image loading]

more updates to come.

choppa 4 on the scene.

Ugh can you tell me what your reads are atm based on stuff happening?


Give it a day or two...

Damdred can you substantiate your reads a bit please? Especially on LS and that other guy? Last game you were one of the first ones to give content and you gave pretty good explanations on each of them...


You posted afterwards but never responded to this.

NydusHerMain - Town?
Fidei86
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On June 17 2015 08:13 Fidei86 wrote:
Evening guys. In case you haven't played with me before, this is my second game (first was Holy Guardians). Heading to bed now, but it looks like there'll be a ton of posts ready for me when I wake up ...


Why post this if 40 mins later you're going to post again?

On June 17 2015 08:57 Fidei86 wrote:
Everyone I played with in HG seems to be carrying on as they left off, except Onegu isn't shit-posting as much, though that's probably because the end of the last game was pretty hype and probably got him jacked to play again. Others will know GB better than I do, but in the HG ins thread he was poking everyone to make reads super early, so that probably means it's his natural play style. He gets a slight town read.


I better see poking this game

Breshke - His posting currently comes off as town to me atm
Mig - waiting
GlowingBear - Who knows, acts like a child when things don't go his way in town/scum games.
LightningStrike - Acting like he cares? I don't know yet, but his posting looks familiar with his last game where he was scum (not caring about what he writes)
wherebugsgo - Ego town butthole
VayneAuthority - Not much
boxerfred - First post is what?

Going to leave now, in-laws are in town.

Context of that post: He haven't posted for a little over 1 hour and seemed kinda forced to give a list of reads plus I felt like his reads weren't as insightful as his last game like when he was around he was pushing shit more than did this game.
On June 17 2015 22:51 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Alright going to try and get this going here. I don't get why people care so much about activity? It's been known since this forum even started that people lurk and will always lurk. I can't be posting all day and night as some others here cause I own four businesses + consult major businesses. I use mafia as a past time and can post when I have free time. If you like my activity great, if you don't sucks for you. At least I try and help the town win rather than post non-sense and spam up the thread.

@Breshke - It's not that I didn't care about my read, is that every one and their mothers is already giving their read on LS. Why do I need to ask a question that was already answer?

@KSC - I don't get why you think I was going after damdred? It was just an early post to get more info on him and in return he got info out of me. I never even claimed I think he's mafia. If anything, his reads seem town motivated.

The list post I made was just have my notes out early. Today alone is my wife's birthday and I have planned to spend it with her - I even posted before game started I will be active mornings and nights (nights meaning before bed time).

@LS - I have, but I haven't been able to deep dive into them. Currently, I'm basing your posting style to your previous game we played together.

I'll be back at night and post follow up responses. I will also try to respond from my phone if possible.

Outside the questions in that post it seemed much more fluff than anything.


So your three reasons for scumming him were

1 bad list post
2. makes excuses
3. posts seemed forced

But 3 is actually just 1 and 2 because the posts you said seemed forced are the list post and him making an excuse.

Frankly i don't think shockey saying shit about not posting much is alignment indicative for him since he did it in witch (might have been post game) but he did do it so it is something he would complain about as either alignment.

I don't know what to say to you LS it doesn't feel like you really think he is scum.


plus you say feels weird or some synonym a lot, which makes me turn my brain off.

I not exactly great at explaining stuff and rsoultin usually is my translator for me for this type of stuff. (Prods rsoultin to do some translation work)
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:10 GMT
#1361
Also fyi it's 12:09 AM CST but I willing to talk until I get close to passing out if it means me not getting lynched and us lynching scum instead.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:13 GMT
#1364
On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
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On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright

LS

Am I scum?

No you just being bad.


Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then?

Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town.


Here is my problem:

I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs.

Your interpretation was a huge overreaction.

But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me.

Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt?


dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_-

even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities


How come not?

He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way.


if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you?

see why this doesn't matter yet?

I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:19 GMT
#1373
On June 18 2015 14:15 rsoultin wrote:
i'm not asking why you're scumreading lightningstrike shockey

i'm asking you why he is your top scumread...though perhaps the better way to phrase it is if he suddenly dropped dead, who else are you willing to lynch?

your only purpose for quoting those was to say nhm was town...multiple times? okay i guess lol ><

Boxer if we can't lynch Shockeyy mainly HF's and Mig's thing on Boxer I think if pretty good but I rather go for my scum.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:21 GMT
#1377
On June 18 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:
LS isn't even trying to convince me of his read on shockey or any other player which i feel he should think is more important than this.

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On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:33 GlowingBear wrote:
Alright

LS

Am I scum?

No you just being bad.


Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then?

Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town.


Here is my problem:

I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs.

Your interpretation was a huge overreaction.

But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me.

Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt?


dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_-

even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities


How come not?

He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way.


if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you?

see why this doesn't matter yet?

I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all



##Unvote
##Vote Lightningstrike

The bolded is bull shit I actually been trying to convince you on my case but instead I facing a brick wall from everyone but it prob because everyone thing I a Mason with Damdred it just me and Damdred work well together -_-.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:22 GMT
#1380
On June 18 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:
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On June 18 2015 14:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Breshke, why exactly you are reading shockey for?


I assume this is meant to say town reading.

I'm not. But he is LS's biggest scumread and instead of convincing me he is scum LS decides respond to random stuff that doesn't matter.



I been trying to but you convince you but you just wont listen -_-.......... Why do I have to face brick walls bigger than GoT. I feel like rage quitting now and might just make a damn document of my reads tomorrow.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
June 18 2015 05:23 GMT
#1382
On June 18 2015 14:22 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2015 14:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:16 Breshke wrote:
LS isn't even trying to convince me of his read on shockey or any other player which i feel he should think is more important than this.

On June 18 2015 14:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:10 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 14:03 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:57 rsoultin wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:54 GlowingBear wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:43 LightningStrike wrote:
On June 18 2015 13:37 GlowingBear wrote:
[quote]

Why pointing out the "smurf hunt" thing then?

Because from the way I read it was like you calling him Rayn(Who is usually a jerk as scum) and we shouldn't really care about the smurf's aka as long they help us as town.


Here is my problem:

I never intended to put effort in smurf hunting by calling him Rayn. I do this everytime with smurfs.

Your interpretation was a huge overreaction.

But the biggest problem is not that you looked at me and said: "GB we shouldn't smurf hunt dude" if you really read me as town. My concern is that you just posted "WOW YOU'RE SMURF HUNTING THAT'S ODD" in such a way that you clearly was throwing suspicions at me.

Why throwing suspicions like that on someone you think is town instead of simply SUGGESTING that I should not scum hunt?


dude haven't i already told you to let this go -_-

even if ls is scum this has no bearing on his alignment. stop quibbling over trivialities


How come not?

He saw an opportunity to discredit me and took it, even while townreading me. Tell me how a town would react this way.


if he indeed was attempting to discredit you, sure xP but how do you know that's what he actually was doing? or how strong his townread on you is? do you never question townreads when they say something that looks weird to you?

see why this doesn't matter yet?

I wasn't trying to discredit you GB I was just finding it odd that's all



##Unvote
##Vote Lightningstrike

The bolded is bull shit I actually been trying to convince you on my case but instead I facing a brick wall from everyone but it prob because everyone thing I a Mason with Damdred it just me and Damdred work well together -_-.


Wait, you're masoned with Damdred or not?

I thought I answered it clearly but apparently you can't read it but here a even clear answer: No I not masoned with Damdred.
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