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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 14:34 GMT
#479
Why?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 16:39 GMT
#500
Actually there is a very large difference to you making a bad point that I'm not responding to you whip I'm not here or you are still posting. To me saying you ignored my post since it was three hours after my initial post and you decided to interact with another post on a superficial level and now you are only making a show because you got called out.

Be back in a bit.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 16:47 GMT
#502
On June 04 2015 01:38 Fidei86 wrote:
I would say that I actually agree with a lot of the things Chocolate has said. His first posts were super clowny, but I suspect that that's partly just because someone has to say something first, and it might as well be stupid - it's not like Kickstarter covered himself in glory with his traffic-copping either. After that, I actually agree with a lot of the things he has said.


What specifically do you like? What do you agree with?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 16:51 GMT
#504
You will realm have to take me through this step by step what you like about him and what you agree with on those reads.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 16:51 GMT
#505
They did, I understand the ve can you explain why you like his gg read for instance
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 17:11 GMT
#508
Well..i mean that seems to be mostly your read which I agree with, but I'm not sure what it has to do with agreeing with chocolate on his read etc.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 19:21 GMT
#525
Ignoring my post which admitted isn't alignment indicative isn't as big a deal as what I would term unreasonable town reads to me. I did give him shit for the bad reasoning however it is fair to say he only replied and returned pressure after he was pinged out. Does that make him scum... Maybe I'm not convinced myself yet.

However there is another issue that is more pressing currently I hinted at it but fideu odd read on chocolate and inability to really show reasoning why he likes chocolates posting weirds me out, it reminds me of people trying to get on the right side of a mislynch and if I hadn't of gotten side tracked with template earlier I wanted to point out how his reads are wishy washy and he has no real conclusions etc.

and the suspicion on Milo seems a bit fake to me.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 19:24 GMT
#526
Also I kinda don't want to lynch Scott I was setting a trap for him by not answering his question and sre if he was going tonbring it up.

A most cunning plan foiled by someone who cares if he's answered.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 20:25 GMT
#536
So basically almost 24 hours in game you only have a strong opinion that 2 people are town one lean and the rest is null. Meh that post just irks me, it says a lot without actually doing much bah.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 21:46 GMT
#546
i'm not even going to read posts until I say this, how in the fuck can anyone in this game say that I don't have opinions stated?

I have literally given at least 3 town reads up to this point, have voiced opinions why 2 people are scummy and have stated why idon't like posts many times.

This is total shit.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 21:51 GMT
#547
On June 04 2015 05:46 ritoky wrote:
I just don't see how you can have a nydus town lean or read. I sure as shit don't anymore. A lot of people have a nydus town read which might mean some1 is spewing him but I don't think he has done enough to deserve the town reads he has gotten.

However back to your read on him and why it is strange:

Nydus thinks or thought that you are scum, he thinks 1 of your 2 top towns is scum and has reinforced it later (me), and he thinks your other top town's case on mafia is crap. So he literally completely disagrees with everything except your templar read, which tbh he may not actually stand behind that much cuz all we have is a #scum post. Even moreso he has a town read on milo who all 3 of your towns have pinged out as potential scum over the course of the 1st day. I just don't see how tone could possibly overrule how utterly wrong Nydus should appear to you. You haven't even called him donkey town....just a town lean. This read feels really out of place....


I like this post, ritoky is a cool guy
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 21:56 GMT
#548
On June 04 2015 05:35 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote:
So basically almost 24 hours in game you only have a strong opinion that 2 people are town one lean and the rest is null. Meh that post just irks me, it says a lot without actually doing much bah.


Just because you refuse to give us opinions on anyone and I keep asking you too is no need to omgus me, but whatever. My '2 people are town one learn the rest null' is more than you have offered up. and if there are 13 players, and I know I'm town, we have 12 people. Ive said i find 3 to be scummy, leaves us 9. Of those 9 ive said 3 were town, leaves 6, of those 6 I pointed out all my issues with 4 of them. I don't even know who the 2 I left out are.

So I have given my thoughts on almost every single player in the game while you haven't given your thoughts on a single one.

Stay mad.


I think most people in this game who've played with me will attest that I don't generally omgus. And this isn't at this point.

However your posts fit very much into the vein of Lots of Words with little content.

Like your big post that irkd me, a simple question was asked to you yet you turned it into a wall of text without any real explanation on why certain people are town. Instead you threw scum on certain people and then said "if they dont' do x before Y". That's not real content nor is that actual reads if you think something is scummy its scummy, not this half whishy washy things that permeate your posts at points.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 22:45 GMT
#552
On June 04 2015 07:05 Kickstart wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 06:56 Damdred wrote:
On June 04 2015 05:35 Kickstart wrote:
On June 04 2015 05:25 Damdred wrote:
So basically almost 24 hours in game you only have a strong opinion that 2 people are town one lean and the rest is null. Meh that post just irks me, it says a lot without actually doing much bah.


Just because you refuse to give us opinions on anyone and I keep asking you too is no need to omgus me, but whatever. My '2 people are town one learn the rest null' is more than you have offered up. and if there are 13 players, and I know I'm town, we have 12 people. Ive said i find 3 to be scummy, leaves us 9. Of those 9 ive said 3 were town, leaves 6, of those 6 I pointed out all my issues with 4 of them. I don't even know who the 2 I left out are.

So I have given my thoughts on almost every single player in the game while you haven't given your thoughts on a single one.

Stay mad.


I think most people in this game who've played with me will attest that I don't generally omgus. And this isn't at this point.

However your posts fit very much into the vein of Lots of Words with little content.

Like your big post that irkd me, a simple question was asked to you yet you turned it into a wall of text without any real explanation on why certain people are town. Instead you threw scum on certain people and then said "if they dont' do x before Y". That's not real content nor is that actual reads if you think something is scummy its scummy, not this half whishy washy things that permeate your posts at points.



We just seem not to like each other, which is fine I guess. But I haven't been wishy washy at all. My scum reads are GGt, milo, and sicklucker, in that order. Town reads are ritocky and VE in that order. To say that I have indicated anything other than what I just said is to not have read what I've said. You keep saying I have given little content yet I have stated over and over and over and over and over again who my scum reads are, and that I like ritocky and VEs posting this far (though VE hasn't said much in awhile but hopefully whenever he gets back to the thread he will). Meanwhile, I still don't know who your scum reads are, as I have pointed out for quite some time now. You are just totally having a go at me and nothing you are saying about my posts holds true. It is annoying, and you've done it enough, I would now like you to say something about some other people, or are you still going to pull the "i dont play that way" card?


I"m not sure what game you have been reading. I have plenty of opinions and reasons why I think certain things are scummy etc.

It has nothing to do with whether I like you or not, it has to do with the fact that you are avoiding certain questions and giving half answers to ritoky specifically about your reads. You went off on a very long tangent that wasn't very useful in one of your longer posts that irked me that led to a "conclusion" that you would only look at certain people more if activity etc wasn't up to what you thought.

However it doesn't change the fact that you are obviously not actually reading what I post for the most part.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 23:02 GMT
#555
Chin up ritoky and help me solve the game.

I'm nto sure that KS is scum, I think that the point you brought up is a good one though and I could see scum accidently aligning themselves like that. Sort of like I did in the game where I called vivax town even though we drastically differed on our reads.

Who else do you think is scum?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 03 2015 23:17 GMT
#558
I actually sort of like Scott, its for a partially bad reason because scum could replicate it pretty easily if they paid attention. However i'm not sure scott is one of those mafia, like I mentioned before I sort of tried to trap him to see if he would forget the question about how I came up with my magical read on you (ritoky).

It kind of puts me in a position where I don't want to lynch someone today who cares and has some form of follow up. I also am not going to scum read him for saying hes busy irl because I legitimately don't thinkt hat he would be lying about that. Its just enough for me not to want to lynch him today I think.

I agree with you that the nydus read is badish (I've already said why), i'm actually more prone to think this would come from scum than from town. But it's sort of weird I probably should go look at his scum game to see how he does but I think he ha some red flags.

I noticed you left out fied? Why did you leave him out? I think there is some pretty decent reasons to think hes scum even if he is a newer player.

i'll look at tick in just a minute and chocolate i'm not sure
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 01:22 GMT
#592
On June 04 2015 09:56 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2015 05:14 Kickstart wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:59 ritoky wrote:
On June 04 2015 04:51 Kickstart wrote:
Well since it seems GGT isnt here yet to answer any questions, what do others think of my read on him? I know ritocky echod the concern about that insane list post and scott said he agreed with the post. Is GGT scummy to you guys as well or do you find another person more scummy atm, and aside from ritocky and scott what does everyone else think of my GGT read?


I would rather not be misrepresented. I don't think templar looks that scummy. He is pretty much null. I think your last point about how his town reads changed a lot w/o explanation seems like a good point of pressure. However the rest of your case is meh. Like I said I don't mind a lot of what templar said and the particular posts he keyed in on.

Also kickstart, can you give a town read on someone. The big issue I am having getting a solid read on you is you seem to be OMGUSing everything that walks.


Well me OMGUSing everything is a stretch. I went on milo and sl before they even mentioned me, and my read on GGT is the same with or without him directing anything at me. I am generally of the opinion that town reads aren't of much use D1, but I was pressured to name some earlier and I named yourself and VE, for basically the same reasons. I felt that you were both applying pressure when needed, you were both driving discussion, and both were being open and honest with your thoughts - all of which I think is helpful and thus I feel that you have been helpful for town up to this point. Does that mean I think you are both 100% town? No, but I feel confident in saying that I would not vote on either of you this cycle. To be honest the only other person I feel is slightly town atm is Nydus, but definitely not on the same level as you two. I have real issues with almost everyone else who I havent mentioned because I just feel their posts are void of strong feelings and I don't like that style of play. Namely I feel like Damdred, scott, Onegu, and Fideu (just off the top of my head) are not giving us anything to work with, their posts are void of reads and strong opinions, and while Damdred has asked a lot of questions and put a bit of pressure on at times, he is still guilty of not giving us his thoughts (though he said this is how he plays and that he will wait to make a stronger case when he is ready - which I intend to hold him too, if Day 1 ends and he is still guilty of what I outlined above I will have some real questions about him because he has been active enough and seems experiences and good enough to give some solid reads but has yet to do so). I think scott and fideu are new so I can understand the reluctance to stick their necks out on anything but I don't feel that is a real excuse, they still need to share their thoughts on things. Onegu seems to have arrived late on the scene but already his posting style is suspicious to me, much too much joking around; while this is normal and understandable at the start of the game, I feel like there is plenty of content to actually address, which he has not done. Can anyone tell me if this is normal posting from Onegu?


Kick, I've been reading you town so far this game, but can you please not make posts like this? This wall of text is really hard on my eyes and is painful to read. I bet a lot of people just skipped it or skimmed it.

I also agree with ritoky's take on that post. It's a lot of words that don't say much. You're mostly rehashing stuff you've already said or that have been expressed in the thread already.


q.q I thought I was the one who gave him hell not ritoky
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 01:27 GMT
#594
On a more serious note id probably lynch into this group today any questions just ask

kick
templars
chocolate

I'm leaving of fi now because his post was...interesting.

but have to look again tomorrow at a few.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 01:37 GMT
#598
That troll ritoky gets none none I tell you. Bit seriously that just made me chuckle
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 15:32 GMT
#684
And who would you want to lynch if you had a choice chocolate
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
June 04 2015 15:54 GMT
#696
Chocolate ignore ve. Currently you aren't getting lynched (I think) and you have 4 or so hours to convince thread of your target.

Now I suggest going through filters and finding someone you think is scummy and presenting it rather than martyring and trying to male someone look stupid for thinking your scum
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