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plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 00:55 GMT
#2100
Tictock, you really think Barakos is mafia?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 00:57 GMT
#2101
You're so tunneled on me being mafia and don't want to consider SL, 27b, boxerfred and dis as mafia at all?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:11 GMT
#2111
I don't even know anymore?
Tictock our tunneling Mason, not caring for logics
Barakos incredibly towny, he fucking cares for this game
SL fucking cares for this game too, made some extremly good calls already
I fucking care for this game by not only reacting but also suggest stuff and think about possibilities and point them out here before anyone else does
--- What does mafia do?
lurk and post from time to time some stuff.

The funny thing is if even we turn it all around it still makes sense too (technically).
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:15 GMT
#2113
I explain to you why Bara believes my claim, like totally technical.

He is fucking town. Or He is fucking mafia, and uses me as a shield to never get lynched, and then kill me later at night.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:16 GMT
#2114
technically he should get lynched, this would tell immediately whether I'm Mafia or not, but since he points it out himself he looks fucking towny, so we'd rather look into someone else, that's all there is to this case.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:24 GMT
#2115
Your not making sense hurts town a lot here Tictock, because mechanilly superior thinking Mafia can always abuse that to protect themselves, to look towny. I'm just saying this very technically here.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:30 GMT
#2116
Your not making sense (if you are town and doing it inadvertently) is also leading to why Mafia can always say you're Mason, and you never catch them, because they townread you, you give them town credit also. The truth is they kill the people who makes sense and reserve you for last.
Still think I'm mafia? I don't even know, but in this case I must be some sort of mechanically super safe mafia or something. I'm pointing all this stuff out to you, where I can just shut up and enjoy.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:39 GMT
#2117
Like if you are town and Barakos is mafia, he just used your impatience and tunneling to establish himself to look towny pretty hard, and we might just never know what the truth is. If town fucking loses, and you're town, blame yourself also, when SL or Barakos are mafia and use your holes to establish themselves as town.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:45 GMT
#2118
Like ok, I'm incompetent about reading who is mafia and putting my blocks, but yours is on a level where it makes Mafia win 100% because you are a Mason and not just some VT. They can always resort to pointing out that you're Mason to escape and just lynch down all the powerroles and VTs, and then you, because they always have your support, based on your own holes of logic, establising them extremely hard as town, because they told you about it and not just sheep some opinion.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 01:55 GMT
#2121
@Bara I'm just pointing it out to him technically, that one townie not making sense, can just destroy the whole game. I'm out for tonight.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:12 GMT
#2130
On May 31 2015 17:51 Tictock wrote:
Plots himself posted this
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2015 07:37 plotspot wrote:
they will kill bats, that's for sure, and then they will try to lynch me. It's ok, I said I'd be fine with that if Sulfurus was town. This is a depressing game.


Bats was the clear NK target, and he agreed.

So why does he offer this excuse?

Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 07:15 plotspot wrote:
I can't prove it anymore, I decided to listen to SL and blocked him, because I did believe that we could actually have 2 Masons.



Why does he suddenly throw away his own thinking, and just listen to SL?

Why does Bara do the same D3, just sheeping Bats vote, when every other day he has given his own clear reasoning?


I explain that to you. SL pointed out that he saw something interesting at the 10 minute mark before EoD3 that could give us the win. He wonders whether I see it too. Then he spits his idea about blocking bats. I go back to that 10 minute mark before EoD3 and notice how bats swings from bunnies to Sulfurus with the reason that Sulfurus cares and shows up and is therefore Mafia. Then gets totally surprised by bunnies showing up too. At that time the "Bats fakeclaim + bunnies being his partner" make sense.
In retrospect it would be Bats being mafia killing Breshke knowing he is Mason, giving away Barakos as town before EoN2, protecting bunny by giving her a green-check. It's extremely effective for Mafia to claim cop to protect their partners if they figure out we don't have cop, they basically make themselves unkillable. I thought hard about it before agreeing to this idea of SL, as it gave us great information (nevertheless) and a chance to win right there when Bats was really fake-claiming.
And I post the thing you quoted way before SL pointed it out. I didn't "just" listen to SL, I saw a real chance in him being right when I watch the bats bunnies interaction.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:18 GMT
#2133
I don't know anymore, I'd be willing to lynch my "scumpartner" Barakos so that Tictock realizes the truth and comes out of his tunnel by now. If Barakos is scum, town wins 100%. That's a FACT. You don't want to win Tictock?
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:20 GMT
#2136
On May 31 2015 18:16 Tictock wrote:
@ Plots

So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false?

Him vote switching is poor evidence.


No, it is just in retrospect poor evidence because Bats was cop. A misslip is good evidence otherwise.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:22 GMT
#2137
On May 31 2015 18:17 Tictock wrote:
Also Plots

Why did you block Bara N2?

Why did you think he was Mafia?


I told you before, I read the game he posted where he was mafia, and I thought my read about him before was wrong.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:22 GMT
#2139
On May 31 2015 18:20 boxerfred wrote:
okay before I'm offline for the next several hours: plots, I dare you to say one more time "I don't know anymore". Stop it. Please. Stop it. I'm so annoyed by that by now.

Okay, it just reflects my state of mind. I will avoid it for your sake.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:42 GMT
#2142
On May 31 2015 18:22 Tictock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2015 18:20 plotspot wrote:
On May 31 2015 18:16 Tictock wrote:
@ Plots

So what evidence did you see to make you think Bats claim was false?

Him vote switching is poor evidence.


No, it is just in retrospect poor evidence because Bats was cop. A misslip is good evidence otherwise.


No, you have to actually explain your thoughts.

What did plots do that made you not believe his cop claim?

What misslip?

okay I can break it down to you, This sequence of posts are what I mean.

On May 30 2015 06:48 batsnacks wrote:
Nah bunnies isn't the gf

BAT TRAPS LOL

Shenanies onto sulfur

##unvote
##vote sulfurus


The first strange thing. Why would bats say bunnies isn't the GF all of a sudden. Would make sense if he was mafia protecting bunnies.

On May 30 2015 06:48 27ninjabunnies wrote:
LOL

Wow Cant even


On May 30 2015 06:49 batsnacks wrote:
Why are you still here bunnies wtf


Like he is totally surprised by bunnies appearing. Would make sense if they agreed to bunnies staying afk so he can spin it.

On May 30 2015 06:56 Sulfurus wrote:
Are you guys joking?


On May 30 2015 06:58 Sulfurus wrote:
You can vote me later, it doesn't matter


Sulfurus looking as if he cares.

On May 30 2015 06:58 batsnacks wrote:
shes here and doesn't give a shit. Mafia would give a shit.


Bats looking for a way to seal the deal with Sulfurus, by saying bunnies is here and doesn't give a shit. Sulfurus gives a shit, so she is mafia. If bunnies didn't appear, he would have said something like "bunnies isn't here, she doesn't give a shit. Mafia gives a shit."

That's the interaction I thought SL wanted to point out to me and it would make sense if Bats was Mafia doing just that.

plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 09:58 GMT
#2144
because Bats did flip cop, it guarantees either bunnies or Barakos as town. As I pointed out if Barakos is scum town wins 100%, if we lynch him today. If bunnies is GF and we lynch her today, town also wins 100%. Barakos even said it himself, lynching him would give us so much information and clears out so much confusion concerning me, that I'm almost certain we should go down that road, but alas I'll give it more thoughts if there is not something even better than that.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 10:09 GMT
#2146
On May 31 2015 19:05 Barakos wrote:
Just to make this clear... lynching me here is a bad play, cause i have a greencheck on me and was blocked on a night of a kill and am town...

Lynching me is the correct play, if you think i am scum and support your roleblock-fakeclaim with my fakeclaim of being blocked.

We can confirm you on so many other ways, that there is no reason for sane people to lynch me. Lynching me just is the right play for tictock, cause he lives in lala-land.


yeah I agree, I mainly said it for Tictock, if it somehow clears his confusion and make him not tunnel on me and actually look for other mafia, you'd be the best lynch.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
May 31 2015 23:32 GMT
#2166
On June 01 2015 07:03 Tictock wrote:
Ok, I'm certain I've solved the game and made a clear case about it.

I can't do anything about Town being full of ostriches + Show Spoiler +
Everyones head is in the sand.


Nobody has a better case, nor good reasons why they don't agree with mine. Yet you are all willing to ignore my case, interesting. I'm learning a lot this game.


How many mafia games have you played until now? This is my second game. In my first I was lynched on the first day. I guess everyone has given up on explaining to you why if you think I'm scum you lynch Barakos first. I will most likely die soon anyway, I hope you don't fall too hard from your cloud.
Not everyone who looks scummy is a freaking scum just because they don't provide enough of a good reason for your standards.
plotspot
Profile Joined October 2014
800 Posts
June 01 2015 20:52 GMT
#2319
You guys can decide:
Power role and mafia = silent so as not to give anything away.
mafia and VT = confuse everyone or looks confused.
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