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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:46 GMT
#1829
Also why do you hate me for stating what I have done and how town I have been?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:49 GMT
#1830
Also idk if y0su is mafia will have to read more later, but didn't he actually consider my claim? That makes him less likely in my mind
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 18:57 GMT
#1833
Firstly, the doc cc during the night is 100% town indicative. Anyone saying otherwise doesn't know how to town or is flat lying. There's no response necessary. And absolutely I pressured prp into his claim. I made posts about him being role or mafia, and he even quoted my posts. Seems like you're the one not reading or comprehending. It's okay my overwhelming townieness can be blinding to some.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:00 GMT
#1835
Hi?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:04 GMT
#1837
That was legit the dumbest thing ever but I laughed.

I spit town fiyah and you can't handle it son
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:15 GMT
#1840
I don't see any arguments. If doc claims and you're by you almost always try to eat the bullet, regardless of the quality of your claim. It is also a play that shows a degree of self abandon which is what TV have. Like I said anyone who tells you it is not a town play is lying or doesn't know how to town.

Outside of that what do you want me to address? That I had a cop, medic, or mafia read on prp after his 4th post so I defended him day 1 and then pressured him into death day 2? Yup cuz that isn't super town.

Or how about the part where I forced a second wagon day 1. Not town at all.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:16 GMT
#1841
Ebwop: by=vt

Stupid autocorrect
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 19:18 GMT
#1842
Still want hts response to the selective reading of my filter
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 09 2015 21:49 GMT
#1845
On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
"Bullied prp into claim" reads alot differnt than saying " I read him as role or scum D1, and put the pressure on him D2"
However, claiming this read after the fact proves little as you never stated those reads untill late D2.

Tone and phrasing make a world of differnce. I also like the VT throwaway notion, I'm not sold that it is a solid plan given that VT is still needed to win, but maybe in that situation it has some merit.

Anyways, i still see you as town or at least my most towny scum, i just hate that you throw this " too towny to prove town" attitude at us.

What do you think about my read on SL?


i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there.

that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.

TT statistically likely town

-c- pretty much town

superbia conf town

y0su considered my claim so might be town.

which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 01:23 GMT
#1851
-c-, everything you said there, was just absolutely wrong from an objective pov. i think you're a donkey.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 01:32 GMT
#1852
On May 10 2015 04:54 Tictock wrote:
What do you think about my read on SL?


I don't really see the big deal in it? Your point is that he is disengaged, has weak reads, not reading the thread, and lackluster?

Meh. More interested in the fact that your read on me was so much longer, clear, and developed yet SL is the one who gets scummed...feel like the time devotion should have been the other way around? Let me go try shining's read on for size maybe his is better.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 01:47 GMT
#1856
On May 10 2015 10:37 -Celestial- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2015 10:23 ritoky wrote:
-c-, everything you said there, was just absolutely wrong from an objective pov. i think you're a donkey.


Prove it; everything I said there was logical and direct. All YOU'VE got going for you is you repeatedly stating things without proving or explaining why and then stating you're confirmed town. Scummy as hell. If you're not scum then you're playing a horrible town game.

Nice ad hominem by the way, go much further with the insults and I'm just going to report you. I'm not here to get into a personal pissing match with someone.


You just don't like me because I am being an egotistical asshole, not because of my play. That is the entirety of your case. You don't like me calling myself confirmed town and being antagonistic.

1) You have an afk player who you have a role or scum read on what do you do as town: force them to claim via pressure/lynch pressure. What does ritoky do: force him to claim via pressure/lynch pressure, then lynch him.

2) Your doctor cc's a doctor claim, and you are VT, what do you do? You try and take his role and fake claim it to obfuscate the shot and potentially save the doctor.

These are town plays 101. They are always beneficial to the town. The scenarios you outlined are implausible. With a claimed doctor, the mafia is not going to shoot a non-doctor so your scenarios are just plain garbage. I am sorry, but you are the one playing a horrible town game if you can't see how clearly VT I am. And donkey is not an insult it is actually a term in mafia; like wifom, or ebwop; it means a town who is very wrong and stubborn.

Have I invalidated everything for you yet? Good, now time to find us the last mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 01:48 GMT
#1857
On May 10 2015 10:44 -Celestial- wrote:
Also amused that ritoky is insulting me for calling him out considering how hard he was reading prpl near the start. X-D


Once again, not an insult, donkey is a technical term in mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 01:56 GMT
#1858
just read shining's case on y0su, it is slightly better than TT's on SL. i especially like the part about the prompting stutters for his next target after prp into no follow-up on the matter.

where i run amuck with it is the part where y0su gives his reads. i get the whole part where he separates them in two and how he holds the 2 scum until his second post. there may be something to that, but then i look at the reads. as a new player he gives a full scum read and basically a null read to his 2 teammates? mind you prp probably encouraged bussing on himself in the QT at some point, but that....idk i feel like a newer player would be more apt to TR his other partner than null read them, especially since y0su doesn't seem like he has the capabilities to solo a game going forward. y0su's reads just leave me thinking those aren't his partners....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 02:45 GMT
#1861
You're mad about something, you need to calm down and really think. If something is going on take a breather, and come back later. You will see how illogical and irrational you are being.

Regardless you just stated a bunch of reasons as to why I am town, so thank you for that! Like legit your earlier post you listed a bunch of stuff and I was like wow, that's so town. Then at the end you called me mafia for doing town things; so I am completely okay with everything you said because all of the actions you outlined are what make me town.

also you should give this a read sometime: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/479775-xxx-mini-mafia-a-night-of-debauchery-18?user=ritoky

i make way more sense and have way more definitive targets as mafia. but keep trying to lynch town, that'll win you the game for sure bud

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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 02:46 GMT
#1862
the above link is me as town, not my antagonism, and nonstop calling myself confirmed town. it's whatcha call dat? a town tell?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 02:46 GMT
#1863
note*
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 17:13 GMT
#1936
On May 11 2015 00:34 Half the Sky wrote:
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On May 10 2015 18:14 sicklucker wrote:
I would acualy rather see yosu dead over ritoky. My logic is if hes town then hes not going to derp away an auto win an dvote me here like the newer players will


Have you seen ritoky's PoE list? It's Shining and myself as the last mafia.

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On May 10 2015 06:49 ritoky wrote:
i get home in probably 4 hrs, so i will read it more thoroughly there.

that said, my initial thoughts is that SL has been tunneled pretty hard on me for a lot of the game, which doesn't seem like a winning strat as the last mafia alive. he is high on the lynch list, tunneling me and me flipping town will only put him closer to the lynch so idk...doesn't seem like a winning line of play.

TT statistically likely town

-c- pretty much town

superbia conf town

y0su considered my claim so might be town.

which leaves shining and hts....so after i read your SL read, i should probably read those 2 filters.


Not sure what he means by tictock being "statistically likely" but more important, what do you think about his PoE list different from yours?

You've PoEed Tictock and y0su, yet you suspect ritoky who provides those reasons for towning two of your PoEs. Thoughts on that?


whats wrong with shining and you as the PoE mafia? ya got beef gurrrl? it kinda makes sense to me, with probably SL being the 3rd lynch in the bunch. it's just hard to envision y0su as mafia for me. full inactive team + a newb mafia who null and scum reads his partners....hard sell for me. TT being statistically likely town refers to the day 1 vote: how mafia tends to have 2 inside the wagon and 1 outside in that particular scenario. TT was outside the wagon as were me and superbia, which would indicate that we are all likely town. further TT seems to give the most shits during a day where the rest of town has gone into pretty much ezmode-ezlyfe. So this leaves SL, HtS, and Shining. With SL having a bunch of plays that don't quite strike home in my head if he was mafia, but meh it's PoE.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 17:16 GMT
#1937
On May 11 2015 01:44 Half the Sky wrote:
Those of you scumreading y0su, I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this latest exchange.

Newb town? Or newb scum?

I need to check into ritoky - note to self...


I honestly think he is a newb who hasn't been able to fully keep up with the thread and you just bullied him into a direction. That's what that felt like.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 10 2015 18:11 GMT
#1946
i love these scum cases on me, they list a bunch of stuff and i say to myself "wow that's town"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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