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On May 06 2015 03:59 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky what do you think of HtS at this point in time?
just on the scum side of null.
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@super what was the town shit he did?
also whatchu make of the FF dropoff, is he pulling a me?
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plz, i was gonna die. but then -c- went and confirmed himself as town; now he is gonna die.
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On May 06 2015 04:07 Superbia wrote:
What did celestial do to become confirmed town?
he went and posted this:
On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 02:14 ritoky wrote:
-c-, i don't understand your hts read. why aren't you leaning town on her? she basically has the exact same reads as you. I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following: Show nested quote +Okay, overall...fairly townie BUT seems to be taking quite an easy route of it. She's doing some of her own work rather than just sheeping but most of it is largely uncontroversial. Its typically just a continuation of what other people have said rather than anything hugely bold; although she does bring up a few fresh new points. I'm not really convinced of scum but given how smart I know HtS can be as scum from the last game its always a possibility. The whole thing of not particularly rustling anybody's feathers bothers me just a little. Though that could be simply because she came into the thread late. Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and.... I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_>
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On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that.
so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote?
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On May 06 2015 04:25 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 03:57 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:On May 06 2015 02:40 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?
That question to HtS about prp is really wtf. your opinion is not very high on my list. and no i haven't been all over the place like this in a very long time. i also haven't rolled VT in over 10 games. how is it wtf. she is posting giant posts about other people and really pushing them for info. i just don't see the conviction behind her push on prp. like she says lynch him with fire, but i don't get that sense. if someone votes on me EoD then fks off, i become a legit wagon, and he comes back makes 0 comment and moves onto a new target; i would be on him like white on rice. i was expecting more of a response. Until he comes back, what can she do about it? "Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?" "Prpl, I'm still waiting" "Prpl plz respond" It shits up the thread for no real benefit. Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do. It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there. phrase it in a manner that says "hey asshole, when you get back respond to this or i will lynch you" rather than "hey....so how was your day? by the way, y'know if you notice or have time, could you like please answer this question that i left? if not, okay i guess i understand" there's a difference between inquiring about something cuz your interested and want to see where it goes and demanding an answer cuz that asshole is probably scum. she should be doing the latter, but seems to be doing the former. That was already clear. Prpl doesn't need his hand held. If he steps up town can reevaluate but if not he's scum and he needs to die. Simple as that really. Getting to your questions Super, I'm at work so it fluctuates depending how busy I am.
You're getting this wrong. The manner in which the question is posed doesn't say anything about prp. It says something about HtS.
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On May 06 2015 04:28 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:22 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:10 prplhz wrote:
dunno i think ticktock looks horrible for throwing away his vote like that. so you're not buying the nervous newbie town, doesn't know what to do at deadline idea? why not, what makes you think it is more likely scum wasting his vote? I could buy that.
but you could also buy the: i don't wanna late vote on this town, i don't wanna vote on my partner, so i waste my vote line too? which one do you buy more?
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On May 06 2015 06:41 Half the Sky wrote:Psstttt, ritoky.... Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 04:45 Half the Sky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:16 ritoky wrote:On May 06 2015 04:07 Superbia wrote:
What did celestial do to become confirmed town? he went and posted this: On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:On May 06 2015 02:14 ritoky wrote:
-c-, i don't understand your hts read. why aren't you leaning town on her? she basically has the exact same reads as you. I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following: Okay, overall...fairly townie BUT seems to be taking quite an easy route of it. She's doing some of her own work rather than just sheeping but most of it is largely uncontroversial. Its typically just a continuation of what other people have said rather than anything hugely bold; although she does bring up a few fresh new points. I'm not really convinced of scum but given how smart I know HtS can be as scum from the last game its always a possibility. The whole thing of not particularly rustling anybody's feathers bothers me just a little. Though that could be simply because she came into the thread late. Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and.... I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_> How does that post make Celestial confirmed town? What phrases are you keying in here? IMO "fear" reads are NAI. Celestial fears me based on a scumteam performance we had together. You townread him. In Student 7, mafia godfather Tubesock ALSO fear-read me (I was town vanilla) on this same game's performance. People can throw fear reads as either alignment. What logic with this post are you using to arrive at your conclusion?
he is already town. as a newer player he spearheads a lynch on a townie day 1 and really believed in his read, which for a non new player is meh, but a newer player doesnt usually make that play as mafia. so he is already super town. i then say his read makes no sense to me, he stays calm, tries his best to explain the read, displays a healthy level of paranoia in his reads and seems legitimately flustered over being wrong. he then stops himself from going too far in the tank. it is a blatant stream of consciousness post all in the form of a town mindset on top of him being super town to begin with. guy is so town it hurts.
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i didn't rly like your reads above ff, but that sl read tickles my jimmies.
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On May 06 2015 06:59 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On May 06 2015 06:54 ritoky wrote:
he is already town. as a newer player he spearheads a lynch on a townie day 1 and really believed in his read, which for a non new player is meh, but a newer player doesnt usually make that play as mafia. so he is already super town. i then say his read makes no sense to me, he stays calm, tries his best to explain the read, displays a healthy level of paranoia in his reads and seems legitimately flustered over being wrong. he then stops himself from going too far in the tank. it is a blatant stream of consciousness post all in the form of a town mindset on top of him being super town to begin with. guy is so town it hurts. Alright, fair. I also interpret "confirmed" town as a flipped town or a DT check or some mechanic that actually literally confirms that person, which is why I asked.
let's put it this way, if anyone tries to lynch that guy in a non-f3 and i am still alive. i am going to lynch them. that's how town he is.
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bleh being on call for the ER is shit some days.
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so HtS, since no1 is ccing the RB claim, and none of the setups allow for a town RB; you have to think that FF was both RB'd and shot last night. In all other cases, superbia is guaranteed town.
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o ppl already talked about this, maybe i should catch up first lulz
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after reading, i don't particularly like SL's reasoning, but i have a hard time imagining he is scum who didn't know the RB rules and how they functioned with the vet. seems like something he would know as scum. SL is wifom town.
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i am not particularly a fan of this superbia lynch. it seems very similar to the scott lynch. same people pushing it, no1 defending superbia, a lot of tone reasoning, and no real exploration into other people. i feel like one of the few people considering alternatives.
someone might be railroading this game....need to figure out whom.
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i am kinda interested in disformation and stutters. stutters cuz i don't have strong feelings about him and i need some. disform because i feel like a lot of people have given cheap reads on him.
i also think the FF kill is likely made from a more inactive person during the night, or some1 who doesn't fear me or -c-. wifom as fuck but i should be considering that.
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On May 07 2015 02:20 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 07 2015 02:10 sicklucker wrote:On May 07 2015 02:02 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 01:56 sicklucker wrote:On May 07 2015 01:53 Stutters695 wrote:On May 07 2015 01:36 sicklucker wrote:On May 07 2015 01:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Sorry guys, busy at work (catering a shit load of luncheons today). Where in the blue hell are you getting 75% from?
Homeboy might be scum, but I'm not getting how you reach those odds. 50% chance theres a veteran in the game. Mafia will always roleblock ff last night incase hes a veteran so they dont lose a kp. This is just standard mafia play and the correct play. Maybe I should lower it a bit because it is a newbie game but I know super 100% makes this play. 0-25% added because super might claim rb as mafia even if theres not a veteran because he has won games doing it before (meta) thats how I got 50-75% Do you remember what game he claimed RB as scum in? 75% is a strong estimate. That looks real bad for you (like almost have to lynch you d3 bad) if he flips town so I want to see where you're coming from. Hts just linked it. Its not me to say if you should lynch me if im wrong or not. But making mathematical mechanical game decisions is kind of my town play style and im right more then im wrong I'll check it out when I have more time, but if you're wrong you've contributed next to nothing and will have caused a mislynch based on probability rather than anything really mafia related. I'll check out your previous games tonight/tomorrow (no rush on that really since it wouldn't be applicable until d3 in this case), but surely you can see how bad that would look. Im offering you a really good lynch math does not lie! This preflip blame is hella scummy We've had a really good lynch since n1 and you're directing attention away from him on the basis of a RB claim. That's hella scummy.
am assuming you mean prpl? if he was such a good lynch, why did you do nothing to get him lynched?
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EBWOP: why did you do nothing d1
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hts you think that 2 of the 4 people who didn't vote on a townie d1 are mafia? and that of those 4, me and disform are the most town?
think about it in that light.
also i am pretty sure a literal 0 amount of people have called superbia town this game. maybe 1. so the lynch seems a lot easier to me with multiple people essentially pre-voting.
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personally i don't think i have a read on superbia. he is just null to me and i plan to keep him there. he is town for having non-conforming reads on d1. mafia superbia picks middle of the road easy reads day 1 and blends. but then he has been so aggressively trying to pocket me that it makes me wary and put him back to null. but he also has that sick ritoky town read....so dunno. claiming the RB when you're a high lynch candidate as scum is meh maybe he did that. i have done it before, tends not to help things but he could have.
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