Newbie Student Mafia IX - Page 5

On May 05 2015 07:51 -Celestial- wrote:
At this point barring a blue claim from scott to be considered I don't think I'm moving my vote. I already put up a freaking big post pointing out all of his mistakes and scum tells and he totally failed to engage in any attempt to defend himself at all or even to set up an alternate choice for lynching. That's as good as a scumclaim to me at this point.

On May 05 2015 07:53 Half the Sky wrote:


When did he post? The last hour when I was in the other game as co-host? Definitely not before that unless I missed that.

I literally get back here and Superbia is going all out on the lynch. prplhz looks even worse as he's just posting from the backseat.

On May 05 2015 06:48 Tictock wrote:


My issue here was that the vote on scott felt too easy. It wouldn't add pressure as scott had already seemed to accept he is probably going to be the D1 lynch and would only put me into the "lynch scott" bandwagon. So while that was my obvious vote at the time I did not see that vote giving town any new info. I was pretty tempted, and probably should have just gone with it, to vote for prp to try and pressure him into posting.

Probably not the best way to play it out, but that is what was going through my head.

In regards to my reads on Shining and Super, I've been having a hard time reading them or at least feeling like i have good reads on them. I'll reread them and catch up on their most recent posts here now.

As for the current state of things, I can't get behind a HtS lynch. The reads against her are purely meta-based and I've already stated I wont trust those.

scott... man you made yourself look pretty bad early on and at this point there is no denying your going to get lynched. Still I look at your most recent posts and I feel like you are posting genuinely. Why did you give up defending yoourself?

On May 05 2015 07:56 Fecalfeast wrote:

WTF is this post?

Did I say that was alignment indicative?

This is what I mean, combative.

On May 05 2015 08:02 -Celestial- wrote:
Also yes, whatever alignment scott is he votes HtS here so IDK what he was doing.

On May 05 2015 08:09 sicklucker wrote:


yes??

On May 05 2015 22:13 Half the Sky wrote:


Looks like I missed Superbia's second post when I said he was unsure on how he felt. So much was flying around at EoD, I had missed it.





The second post reads as sarcastic to me given his first sentence. So I think he's calling you scum for your ninja vote.

However, I checked your filter, and you listed at least three times as to why you didn't like Scott prior to the vote, so him calling it a ninja vote is just him looking at the timestamps and throwing it out there. You voted in thread about 90m prior and in voting thread approx 75m prior.

Although he calls it a ninja vote at 5m prior. He goes back to read the stuff on me and clearly he was looking at other things too when he called your ninja vote (and linked it) yet he didn't catch when you voted and still called it ninja. You haven't changed your reads on Scott from what I can tell. It's definitely selective reading and mafia can cherry pick the posts to fit their arguments. That's the (scum) impression I get from him.

Also he's saying you're not engaging in conversation. That statement doesn't really do anything productive as you have already stated your reasons for voting Scott. (Nor am I seeing his reasons for contesting that.)

Superbia gets back in thread and we have these series of quotes from him.







It's the same problem I have with Superbia voting me, he's not really reading the thread (the timestamps clearly indicate that), or reading selectively. IIRC he afks the thread saying I need to do more, and he basically comes back to that. His push on me is at best OMGUS.

On May 06 2015 02:13 Half the Sky wrote:


I'm assuming here you are talking about my response/rebuttal of why you think I'm scum. There's nothing OMGUS about refuting any argument, and I even said before your logic may be flawed. That's a simple defence - at no point I've even solidly scumread you to begin with, let alone in retaliation.

As for prplhz I was scumreading him well before he voted me, and his subsequent posts/EoD behaviour have only been worse. Even his last point on Stutters is pretty laughable - he's pretty much commenting from the backseat without questioning Superbia - checking his filter he doesn't even have a read on Superbia.

The pot/kettle argument is a moot point here.

On May 06 2015 02:25 Stutters695 wrote:
I'm kinda souring on Rit. Is he always this all over the place?

That question to HtS about prp is really wtf.

On May 06 2015 02:43 Half the Sky wrote:
I also mentioned it before and I'll mention it again - the argument that "having the same reads as yourself" makes someone town (or not having them makes a person mafia) is really faulty at best, especially early (and we're still early as it's only N1) in the game as D1 reads on aggregate aren't great.

On May 06 2015 02:51 -Celestial- wrote:


I already mentioned why in my post above. Simply put: I know from personal experience she can make a good job of hiding as scum. A few pages ago Superbia asked for my thoughts on HtS and my conclusion was the following:



Obviously there's been more since then. I WANT to townread her but honestly this game I'm not sure she's ever going to get better than a null from my own inherently suspicious bias. Sure, some of our reads are similar but I don't actually consider that to be outright alignment indicative in and of itself. I'm not perfect (as the egg on my face from pushing the scott lynch so hard can attest to) which means its entirely possible she's simply picked up on reads I've gotten wrong and is going along with it to fit in. Or she might genuinely believe it. Or she might think that I might think that and....

I'm drifting into WIFOM territory here. >_>

On May 06 2015 03:37 Stutters695 wrote:


Until he comes back, what can she do about it?

"Hey prpl, why don't you have any opinions?"

"Prpl, I'm still waiting"

"Prpl plz respond"

It shits up the thread for no real benefit.

Until he shows back up and actually has an opinion, we lynch him. There's nothing to discuss, this is how scum prpl do.

It totally makes sense, but I can see where you're coming from there.