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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 17:06 GMT
#401
On May 04 2015 02:00 Superbia wrote:
I'm not interested in lynching scott today for now. Want to hear his thought process during the whole HtS debacle though. Wagon on SL would be nice.


explain the SL wagon idea, is it pressure or legit scum?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 17:13 GMT
#404
On May 04 2015 02:09 Superbia wrote:
Like I don't want to elaborate on the way I read SL at the moment, but let's just say that he hasn't been town at all.


well that doesn't help inform my read on SL at all lol
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 17:20 GMT
#408
On May 04 2015 02:14 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:03 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:01 y0su wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:54 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 01:46 Superbia wrote:
Ritoky you want to share your scum reads so far or do you just wanna chill and see for a little?


maybe scott and maybe shining atm are my top 2. not particularly firm on either. am moreso looking for towns right now.

i think me, ff, -c- are pretty much town. then superbia, and prp are 2nd tier town for now.

been busy (working on my lists when I get to sit at the computer) quite curious about how you put someone on your team (even t2) with just a few posts?


he made one of the highest quality observations in the thread in regard to shining and i had literally the exact same thought reading the exact same thing:

On May 03 2015 08:40 prplhz wrote:
On May 03 2015 08:34 The Shining wrote:
I'm going to go ahead and be as useless as always D1. Let's do this. Willing to lynch Super, FF, Scott so far.

Super wants to lynch Scott for opening with a town claim. FF and Super willing to lynch Scott off that. It's cuz Scott looks bad off of an unpressured town claim. FF and Super setting up to bus Scott d1 if needed.

Super, FF, Scott scumteam gg

this is rubbing me the WRONG WAY


On May 03 2015 08:41 prplhz wrote:
like he's trying to make up some excuse for being useless and then he tries to solve the game and that like 30 posts into the game


he is also giving definitive alignment reads instead of hedging. if i remember prp's play right he hedges a lot more as mafia.


Debatable. Prpl posts a shit load as town. Not to mention that's literally his only insight so far. It's early but I don't consider anything he's said as definitive.


? we thinking of the same guy? prp is a low volume poster as both alignments. he is like a 9-11 page over course of an entire game kind of player from my experience.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 17:22 GMT
#409
On May 04 2015 02:15 Superbia wrote:
Who's up for voting on SL? :D


you're gonna have to sell me on it. he is null for me. i mean maybe he is a little bleh cuz posting for the sake of posting, but that's minor at best.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 17:25 GMT
#412
On May 04 2015 02:23 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 02:22 ritoky wrote:
On May 04 2015 02:15 Superbia wrote:
Who's up for voting on SL? :D


you're gonna have to sell me on it. he is null for me. i mean maybe he is a little bleh cuz posting for the sake of posting, but that's minor at best.


-Shrug-. You're not doing anything with your vote anyway. May as well park it on someone. Might get some info from pressure.


pressure votes aren't really my thing. i don't particularly believe in them.

@stutters, what are your reads? i see you have a couple in your filter, but could you consolidate them for me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 19:04 GMT
#448
@scott, your read on ff and superbia seems like it should apply to me; why am i neglected there and in the rest of your reads?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 22:47 GMT
#506
if shining is town, someone is gonna have to talk me out of lynching him all game i think....the way he phrases things bugs the living shit out of me and makes me want to lynch him lol.

also not particularly fond of hts. enters thread -> summary information -> makes read 8 other people have made -> asks question -> draws no conclusions from time in thread. you're a decent player, you're in the thread engaging with people, and you don't conclude anything. not townie enough for cookies. go sit in the corner.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 03 2015 22:49 GMT
#507
On May 04 2015 04:17 y0su wrote:
ff, what do you think of ritoky's initial "loopyness" followed by a pretty quick change of direction into questioning?


if you ask questions like this, you need to arrive at conclusions and post them in the thread. both a piece of advice and a comment.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 00:08 GMT
#525
On May 04 2015 08:39 The Shining wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 07:47 ritoky wrote:
if shining is town, someone is gonna have to talk me out of lynching him all game i think....the way he phrases things bugs the living shit out of me and makes me want to lynch him lol.

also not particularly fond of hts. enters thread -> summary information -> makes read 8 other people have made -> asks question -> draws no conclusions from time in thread. you're a decent player, you're in the thread engaging with people, and you don't conclude anything. not townie enough for cookies. go sit in the corner.


Lmao explain? I like to think its fairly easy to tell when I'm town. But I won't meta myself for you. Super asked for my game links, go see if you want to lynch me reading other town games. I've been told I look scummy as town before, nothing new to me. I could say the same for your opening posts and 0 to 100 change from one style to the other.

But I lynch scum, not people whose posting style and phrasing annoys me. Just so I understand, this post is you hinting at probably wanting to lynch me all game while being not particularly fond of HtS? Not townie enough!

Why not come out and take a stance? This looks like 2 weak reads left to sit there in the hopes someone else will actively push them. HtS draws no conclusions but you don't say anything definitive here, either. Lynch me for phrasing and HtS...isn't townie enough. Funny you pick on my phrasing instead of saying what she isn't, instead of what you think she is.


overreact much? way too defensive in response to the tiniest of comments. as for why the way you phrase things bugs the living shit out of me; it is pretty much irrelevant to explain. you're just kinda like sqrtneg1 i think. everything you type regardless of content or alignment indicativeness just makes me want to lynch you. i need to train myself to try and read the content rather than just want to lynch you. for example: i avoided getting bothered here and noted your large overreaction, which pushes you toward being more scum.

as for me not having stances, i have plenty in the thread. hts has like 5 posts, she isn't slam dunk mafia for any of them so i am not gonna call her mafia, but none of them are any good; which means she might be mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 00:11 GMT
#527
SL can you give me like...a paragraph or 2 on any 2 players in the game. you can choose. i just need to see you type more than 2-3 lines.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 00:17 GMT
#529
someone townread me once...in some game....i think.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 00:25 GMT
#532
D: i don't feel like sl is gonna give me my paragraph or 2....i am deeply hurt on an emotional level.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 00:36 GMT
#534
On May 04 2015 09:30 sicklucker wrote:
To Ritoky

To you I give the whole me
For I believe that you're my destiny
To you I offer every best of my heart
For I believe that you will value it

I want to share my whole life with you
For me to show that my love is true
I want to hold you in my arms
And sing you songs and lullabies

Loving you is what I want to do
Although I know that it can make me blue
Cause tears in my eyes has nothing to do
If I'm with a man that is Ritoky



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“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:24 GMT
#616
trying to decide whether or not y0su is my top town.

he is doing what i did as town when i started on these forums, finding something that feels "strange" to him and really trying to dig into it. he is wrong here, but the process he is going through is something i like a lot.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:28 GMT
#617
Still highly unimpressed by HtS. I don't think I have been town with HtS in a very long time though. Last time I was, she screamed town to me. Maybe there was some leveling of play so she is less easy to catch? Idk, all of those reads are summary information and pretty much already made by others in the thread. There isn't really anything there that hasn't been thought by some1 else. Further she quotes some of the exact posts I looked at and then has the opposite reaction which makes me go "EHHHHH!?"
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:29 GMT
#618
@disformation, what is the thing you dislike most about scott? also, if you're willing to vote on him then why aren't you now?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:42 GMT
#621
man, why can't slam, damdred, hf, koshi, or sum1 i read really well be in this game....

that disform post, i really like the observation on superbia a LOT. but the top part where he is pre-emptively setting up for scott to flip town irks the living hell out of me.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:45 GMT
#623
oh, didn't see you on voting list, rip just woke up.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 15:51 GMT
#627
On May 05 2015 00:46 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:42 ritoky wrote:
man, why can't slam, damdred, hf, koshi, or sum1 i read really well be in this game....

that disform post, i really like the observation on superbia a LOT. but the top part where he is pre-emptively setting up for scott to flip town irks the living hell out of me.


Huh? Which part do you mean with setting up for scott flipping town? =/


On May 05 2015 00:33 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2015 21:22 -Celestial- wrote:
scott is either scum or is playing horribly scummy town. Either way he's a total liability and I would not be surprised in the slightest to see him flip red.


Well, this strikes me as a bit odd as I kinda read this as "At this point I don't care if he is mafia or not". So I kinda get where y0su gets his feeling from. But I don't think that is anywhere close enough to dismiss the case or call -c- scum. Plus I agree on him more likely being scum. But this might me nice to keep on hand for the night phase.


This part. It could very well come from mafia trying to set up a place to dump the blame if the lynch is sour. You're making excuses/plans before the flip has occurred; tends to happen with some1 who has no confidence in their read or is trying to shove off the blame.

ALSO why you give me no credit for that "we" thing? That was totes me who found that. ROOD AS FUK!
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
May 04 2015 16:19 GMT
#643
On May 05 2015 01:13 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2015 00:51 ritoky wrote:
On May 05 2015 00:33 disformation wrote:
On May 04 2015 21:22 -Celestial- wrote:
scott is either scum or is playing horribly scummy town. Either way he's a total liability and I would not be surprised in the slightest to see him flip red.


Well, this strikes me as a bit odd as I kinda read this as "At this point I don't care if he is mafia or not". So I kinda get where y0su gets his feeling from. But I don't think that is anywhere close enough to dismiss the case or call -c- scum. Plus I agree on him more likely being scum. But this might me nice to keep on hand for the night phase.


This part. It could very well come from mafia trying to set up a place to dump the blame if the lynch is sour. You're making excuses/plans before the flip has occurred; tends to happen with some1 who has no confidence in their read or is trying to shove off the blame.

ALSO why you give me no credit for that "we" thing? That was totes me who found that. ROOD AS FUK!


Okay, this is a fair point. But I see this statement from both alignments.

Second question for ritoky then, as a veteran surely by now, you've seen others make the same statements from townies commenting on players who might be playing suboptimally or whose town meta is close to scum meta (think batsnacks, kushm4sta, Blazinghand, sicklucker, LightningStrike, etc).

Why is it (or do you think it is) unreasonable to imagine Celestial could be making such an observation as town? The mafia rationale makes sense, but why wouldn't the town rationale for this same statement?


if by celestial you mean disform, the town perspective is that he believes wrong could = mafia, and -c- leading the lynch and potentially being wrong = mafia. that is suboptimal esp for day 1, but it could be from town. i don't find it particularly damning at this point, it does cheapen a really good superbia read though.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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