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I know it wasn't going to actually happen but artanis isn't getting lynched.
Like it is yamato and palmar and looking through palmars filter I have no understanding how to read him. He pushed for the WoS lynch so much and one of his core reasons I still dont think made wos mafia. In between all his caring and wanting to lynch people for being stupid there is posts I really like for example his first yamato case.
On top of that I don't really think he was bussing WoS there because yeah the "safe" vote thing doesn't make sense to me but he pushed it multiple times and actually seems annoyed people still disagree with him. Im not saying he couldn't do that as mafia like he got his partner to shoot him last game im sure he is capable of this but I think it is very unlikely. Therefore i think he is town
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EBWOP Its yamato OR palmar
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On May 03 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:00 Trfel wrote:On May 03 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 11:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, please let it drop with Artanis....
I'm extremely confident that he is town. And he could very well be right. no. i'm not extremely confident he is town You would rather lynch Artanis than yamato77? lol you really think town artanis martyrs here because someone said he might be scum? are you really so confident about reading one of the best players on this site that you're not going to think about it at all?
I don't think its necessarily alignment indicative like as town or mafia he obviously wasn't going to get lynched there. I can see how people would be frustrrated because the long day phases coupled with the limited night kills kind of makes it feel like the game is moving along very slowly. Add ontop of that mine and I guess yamatos sub par activity levels when we are two of the most suspected i could see how a town artanis could just be frustrated here.
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On May 03 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:
pretty certain palmar is town
pretty certain truffle is town
yamato is and has always felt like a policy lynch to me, tbh...y'all really think he was trying to lynch his scum mate who was probably a scum pr when the doc was still alive?
like, it's mean, but i don't think much about yamato's town game anyway; this level of bad doesn't seem outside his town play to me
When you say they probably have a PR there is more of a chance that there is another goon OR a godfather which are both useless if they know we have a doc since damdy most likely got a save on you
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On May 03 2015 12:14 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:12 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:07 rsoultin wrote:
pretty certain palmar is town
pretty certain truffle is town
yamato is and has always felt like a policy lynch to me, tbh...y'all really think he was trying to lynch his scum mate who was probably a scum pr when the doc was still alive?
like, it's mean, but i don't think much about yamato's town game anyway; this level of bad doesn't seem outside his town play to me When you say they probably have a PR there is more of a chance that there is another goon OR a godfather which are both useless if they know we have a doc since damdy most likely got a save on you lol why is there more of a chance for that?
scum role were randomised from the link hapa posted. The role that were there were Goon, roleblocker and godfather. Therefore 2/3 that it isnt a roleblocker. Also idk if scum care about their pr anymore sicne damdy made it fairly obvious he had a save on you considering how quickly i found it when i went back to look
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On May 03 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:00 Trfel wrote:On May 03 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 11:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, please let it drop with Artanis....
I'm extremely confident that he is town. And he could very well be right. no. i'm not extremely confident he is town You would rather lynch Artanis than yamato77? lol you really think town artanis martyrs here because someone said he might be scum? are you really so confident about reading one of the best players on this site that you're not going to think about it at all? I don't think its necessarily alignment indicative like as town or mafia he obviously wasn't going to get lynched there. I can see how people would be frustrrated because the long day phases coupled with the limited night kills kind of makes it feel like the game is moving along very slowly. Add ontop of that mine and I guess yamatos sub par activity levels when we are two of the most suspected i could see how a town artanis could just be frustrated here. so frustrated someone thinking he could be scum is enough to throw a fit? you were in guardians with me. you think that's the same player?
Yeah but that game actually was developing and stuff with stuff going on if you get me. Also look at it this way.
If he was scum he isnt actually martying because why would he just throw like that
if he is town he might actually get himself lynched.
Idk how to explain it properly but like if he is actually martying it more likely makes him town but fuck having reads like that so its not alignment indicitve.
I get what you are saying though that he is a good player so he shouldnt of reacted like that but then look at it from the same point of view if he is mafia and a good player why would he react like that aswell?
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On May 03 2015 12:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:19 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:13 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:08 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:03 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:00 Trfel wrote:On May 03 2015 11:57 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 11:45 Trfel wrote:
Rsoultin, please let it drop with Artanis....
I'm extremely confident that he is town. And he could very well be right. no. i'm not extremely confident he is town You would rather lynch Artanis than yamato77? lol you really think town artanis martyrs here because someone said he might be scum? are you really so confident about reading one of the best players on this site that you're not going to think about it at all? I don't think its necessarily alignment indicative like as town or mafia he obviously wasn't going to get lynched there. I can see how people would be frustrrated because the long day phases coupled with the limited night kills kind of makes it feel like the game is moving along very slowly. Add ontop of that mine and I guess yamatos sub par activity levels when we are two of the most suspected i could see how a town artanis could just be frustrated here. so frustrated someone thinking he could be scum is enough to throw a fit? you were in guardians with me. you think that's the same player? Yeah but that game actually was developing and stuff with stuff going on if you get me. Also look at it this way. If he was scum he isnt actually martying because why would he just throw like that if he is town he might actually get himself lynched. Idk how to explain it properly but like if he is actually martying it more likely makes him town but fuck having reads like that so its not alignment indicitve. I get what you are saying though that he is a good player so he shouldnt of reacted like that but then look at it from the same point of view if he is mafia and a good player why would he react like that aswell? bluffing xP is a hell of a lot easier than simply supporting his position
Yeah but just lynching me then lynching yamato tomorrow (if he were scum0 is even easier than bluffing haha
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by the way im sure you found it but
The Setup:
[list][*]Six Vanilla Townies + One Blue Role vs. Two Mafia
[*]The Blue role and Mafia roles will be randomly generated.
I assume that means randomed from the list he later linked
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On May 03 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:23 Breshke wrote:by the way im sure you found it but
The Setup:
[list][*]Six Vanilla Townies + One Blue Role vs. Two Mafia
[*]The Blue role and Mafia roles will be randomly generated.I assume that means randomed from the list he later linked yeah just found it kinda makes it a little less likely there are two goons, actually, but not significantly so. and damdy's reaction to me could have been a check as much as a save...so it's probably not worth speculating about tbh
Yeah but mafia would know because if they held their shot he is a cop if they didnt he was a doc. so mafia knew
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On May 03 2015 12:34 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:30 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:23 Breshke wrote:by the way im sure you found it but
The Setup:
[list][*]Six Vanilla Townies + One Blue Role vs. Two Mafia
[*]The Blue role and Mafia roles will be randomly generated.I assume that means randomed from the list he later linked yeah just found it kinda makes it a little less likely there are two goons, actually, but not significantly so. and damdy's reaction to me could have been a check as much as a save...so it's probably not worth speculating about tbh Yeah but mafia would know because if they held their shot he is a cop if they didnt he was a doc. so mafia knew not really? they could hold their shot and he still be a doc
I guess but then you have to argue that they picked up on damdreds soft without actually having the information that KP was put on you which no one seemed to do other than yourself.
Rso do you really think art is scum? Other than this martyr thing is their other reasons?
I'm starting to egt to the point where I really don't think palmar bussed, i dont think trfel is mafia you are confirmed and im also quite certain art is town so ill be happy to be lynched then for yamato to be lynched but if you have other reasons for art on why he could be scum id like to hear them.
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You have to also remember that artanis was town reading me for most of the game so that would also help with the revelation he had so it is less out of nowhere.
do you have reasons for thinking is artanis is scum?
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EBWOP do you have reasons for thinking artanis might be scum
We might as well revisit it now.
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On May 03 2015 13:13 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 13:11 Breshke wrote:
You have to also remember that artanis was town reading me for most of the game so that would also help with the revelation he had so it is less out of nowhere.
do you have reasons for thinking is artanis is scum? mm? beyond what's already been mentioned at various points about his play? not really, just this felt odd to me but lol >< now that i thought it through it's not as odd i can see how he got to the conclusion and yes it is more likely i think than you being scum assuming he's town and has you three by poe teehee lol >< oops
okay I guess that works for me
##Vote Yamato
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On May 03 2015 13:17 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On May 03 2015 12:41 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:34 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:30 Breshke wrote:On May 03 2015 12:29 rsoultin wrote:On May 03 2015 12:23 Breshke wrote:by the way im sure you found it but
The Setup:
[list][*]Six Vanilla Townies + One Blue Role vs. Two Mafia
[*]The Blue role and Mafia roles will be randomly generated.I assume that means randomed from the list he later linked yeah just found it kinda makes it a little less likely there are two goons, actually, but not significantly so. and damdy's reaction to me could have been a check as much as a save...so it's probably not worth speculating about tbh Yeah but mafia would know because if they held their shot he is a cop if they didnt he was a doc. so mafia knew not really? they could hold their shot and he still be a doc I guess but then you have to argue that they picked up on damdreds soft without actually having the information that KP was put on you which no one seemed to do other than yourself. Rso do you really think art is scum? Other than this martyr thing is their other reasons? I'm starting to egt to the point where I really don't think palmar bussed, i dont think trfel is mafia you are confirmed and im also quite certain art is town so ill be happy to be lynched then for yamato to be lynched but if you have other reasons for art on why he could be scum id like to hear them. do you want to talk about palmar?
I guess thats more useful than me trying to explain why they probs dont have a role blocker like i was about to again haha.
Do you disagree with what i said about it is unlikely he bussed there?
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On May 04 2015 09:10 rsoultin wrote:
but hey first town win for awhile ^^ -crawls into palmar's pocket- ^^
btw bresh thanks for talking to me lol >< that helped a ton
Haha at least I contributed in some way.
As for the hold shot thing would it be balanced if mafia could hold their shot but they would have to either use 2 kp the next night or lose the held kp. So basically each held shot only lasts one night.
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I actually did fairly terrible. I thought I was doing really well D1 but then realised I wasn't actually pushing anything not sure what was up with that.
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On May 04 2015 19:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
I think dma is maybe the one positive thing I have left as a legacy to tl mafia, even if it barely applies these days and isn't used properly.
Man I'm super pissed at myself for shit play this game though.
As little as it means you sure had me sold haha
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