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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:38 GMT
#1361
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:38 GMT
#1362
On April 29 2015 08:35 Trfel wrote:
Yamato77 on Artanis

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 06:13 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:12 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
That doesn't force anything. They'll participate if they feel like it this game.

Well, they can continue to do nothing, and then we can lynch them then bitch about them not playing to their win condition. The point is, we can give them time due to there not being a hard deadline, so there's no excuses for them not to participate.

artanis, is this seriously your plan this game?
The start of yamato77's first push on Artanis.

Show nested quote +
On April 22 2015 06:39 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:32 yamato77 wrote:
On April 22 2015 06:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Yes look at all the waiting I'm doing.

you're responding to PRESSURE

you aren't the one doing the pressing

big difference

I'm responding to idiots being idiots and it's unfortunate as I could have spent that time playing GTA5.

Actually, I couldn't because it's not installed yet, but that's semantics.

so you freely admit you don't actually care to play the game beyond wasting time waiting for Palmar/BH?

alright

##unvote
##Vote: Artanis
Follows up with his vote.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 07:28 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like Artanis' post where he comments on the case offhandedly and then votes trfel
More things he doesn't like about Artanis.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 07:39 yamato77 wrote:
Artanis!

Seems like you and I have the same problem with trfel, haha.
Something good about Artanis.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 07:50 yamato77 wrote:
On April 23 2015 07:49 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 23 2015 07:45 yamato77 wrote:
On April 23 2015 07:44 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
BH deserves to be lynched for not posting the British Empire Mafia post-game analysis anyway.

So you consent to the BH lynch, Artanis?

or...?

I don't oppose it. I honestly have no idea what he'll flip but a bunch of people look townier and I don't think I'll ever be confident in reading him as town so him going today is fine.

-pukes on keyboard-
And something else bad about Artanis.

Now, look at his comments on the Blazinghand lynch.
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 07:27 yamato77 wrote:
alright, so the BH case in and of itself isn't really that bad

honestly, the BH that does this whole martyring thing has been town in the past

I've also seen him be scum and use delay tactics, but is this really a delay tactic?

I'm unsure about this lynch, bros
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2015 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
I'll freely admit I don't have a better lynch at this second but it's not really important to, at this point
So Artanis, who he is still voting for, and shared all these suspicions of, is not a better lynch than Blazinghand (who he really doesn't seem to want to lynch)?

Blazinghand gets lynched. Start of Day 2, yamato77 posts this.
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2015 10:13 yamato77 wrote:
But all that's really here nor there. It's a different day now.

I still think Artanis looks pretty bad. Thoughts on wagon were subpar
So Artanis looks pretty bad, for reasons that existed at the end of Day 1, but wasn't a better lynch than Blazinghand?

The only possibility I see for this being town motivated is that yamato77 was doing a pressure on Artanis, not a serious scumread. This is doubtful given this post above. And when I asked yamato77 about this recently, here is his answer.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:15 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:13 Trfel wrote:
On April 23 2015 08:12 yamato77 wrote:
I'll freely admit I don't have a better lynch at this second but it's not really important to, at this point
Yamato77, can you please explain this quote? From Day 1, near the lynch deadline.

don't need to find a better lynch than BH when you can just extend the day and work toward finding one

it's really simple
So maybe the pressure on Artanis was just a pressure all along, and never actually a scumread? I really don't see any other possibility, it's either this or yamato77 is mafia.
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:32 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:31 Trfel wrote:
Yamato77, towards the end of Day 1, did you think that Artanis was mafia?

I went over this

he looked better because of you.

your reads on the two of us were similar and we both took offense to them in similar ways, it was kinda townie

not super strong, but enough to make me doubt
And so it wasn't a pressure vote.

Yamato's read progression is as follows:
  • Artanis made a scummy statement, waiting for inactives instead of scumhunting
  • He made a really bad post where his push isn't what he is talking about
  • He said the same thing about Trfel as I did, maybe he's town
  • His comments on the Blazinghand wagon were really bad
  • Lynching Artanis is worse than lynching Blazinghand, who I really don't want to lynch
  • Artanis looks pretty bad for his stance on the Blazinghand wagon
And I don't like that at all.

I don't understand how you don't understand
Writer@WriterYamato
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:39 GMT
#1363
On April 29 2015 08:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


dunno

you did though xP

I did it last min just to troll though.

I was tempted to switch to Yamato after finding out he hasn't been lynched as town in forever, but then I checked Wave and the same was true for him so that doesn't help.

more stupid reasons

just wtf

none of these things have anything to do with me being mafia

great job guys
Writer@WriterYamato
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2015 23:39 GMT
#1364
On April 29 2015 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
Enough to make him specifically state that he had no better lynch?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:40 GMT
#1365
On April 29 2015 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


dunno

you did though xP

I did it last min just to troll though.

I was tempted to switch to Yamato after finding out he hasn't been lynched as town in forever, but then I checked Wave and the same was true for him so that doesn't help.

more stupid reasons

just wtf

none of these things have anything to do with me being mafia

great job guys

Sure it does; if you never get lynched as town yet you're at serious risk of being lynched when you get lynched as mafia all the time it makes you relatively more likely to be scum.

Unfortunately the same is true for Wave so that doesn't really help.
Breshke
Profile Joined July 2014
Australia3749 Posts
April 28 2015 23:40 GMT
#1366
On April 29 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


probably. If you look at the time he spent arguing with rso when this was when he was going to be less active he is probably invested enough to make a post like that.


...

i'm beginning to want to lynch yamato solely because breshke is posting like he wants wave dead while voting for yamato @.@


this is aswful rso.

Do you not disagree with what i said? I obiously think he is town but im being fucking realistic that him posting that doesn't make him town its NAI

Also you letting your WRONG read on me influance everything you do is not good
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:40 GMT
#1367
On April 29 2015 08:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
Enough to make him specifically state that he had no better lynch?

no better lynch in 1 hour

1 hour I had to "find a better lynch" and make it happen

yes, totally doable.
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:41 GMT
#1368
On April 29 2015 08:39 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
Enough to make him specifically state that he had no better lynch?

I dunno. If he didn't follow it up with pushing me again before the lynch it does look pretty bad. I can imagine him not pushing me as alternative instantly, but he should realize it at some point before the lynch.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:41 GMT
#1369
On April 29 2015 08:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


dunno

you did though xP

I did it last min just to troll though.

I was tempted to switch to Yamato after finding out he hasn't been lynched as town in forever, but then I checked Wave and the same was true for him so that doesn't help.

more stupid reasons

just wtf

none of these things have anything to do with me being mafia

great job guys

Sure it does; if you never get lynched as town yet you're at serious risk of being lynched when you get lynched as mafia all the time it makes you relatively more likely to be scum.

Unfortunately the same is true for Wave so that doesn't really help.

I do get lynched as town

I was almost lynched last game but mafia bussed too hard to make it happen

this is horrid. bad players gonna bad, it has nothing to do with how I've played
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:42 GMT
#1370
Meh, I think I just want to stay on Wave as Yamato cares too much atm.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:43 GMT
#1371
On April 29 2015 08:41 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


dunno

you did though xP

I did it last min just to troll though.

I was tempted to switch to Yamato after finding out he hasn't been lynched as town in forever, but then I checked Wave and the same was true for him so that doesn't help.

more stupid reasons

just wtf

none of these things have anything to do with me being mafia

great job guys

Sure it does; if you never get lynched as town yet you're at serious risk of being lynched when you get lynched as mafia all the time it makes you relatively more likely to be scum.

Unfortunately the same is true for Wave so that doesn't really help.

I do get lynched as town

I was almost lynched last game but mafia bussed too hard to make it happen

this is horrid. bad players gonna bad, it has nothing to do with how I've played

The point is things frequently happen that make you not get lynched as town which makes it statistically less likely for you to be town when you are in massive risk of getting lynched.

I don't want to switch now though so whatever.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2015 23:44 GMT
#1372
On April 29 2015 08:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:39 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
Enough to make him specifically state that he had no better lynch?

I dunno. If he didn't follow it up with pushing me again before the lynch it does look pretty bad. I can imagine him not pushing me as alternative instantly, but he should realize it at some point before the lynch.
He never did.

His Day 1 was just like:

WaveofShadow is suspicious
Artanis is mafia
Maybe Artanis isn't mafia?
Artanis looks pretty suspicious
Don't lynch Blazinghand
Don't lynch Blazinghand!

No follow through on WaveofShadow or Artanis at all...

But I suppose his explanation does have some merit. That's not how I read his post at all, but I guess maybe I could see it anyway. Ugh.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:44 GMT
#1373
On April 29 2015 08:43 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:41 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:36 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:32 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


dunno

you did though xP

I did it last min just to troll though.

I was tempted to switch to Yamato after finding out he hasn't been lynched as town in forever, but then I checked Wave and the same was true for him so that doesn't help.

more stupid reasons

just wtf

none of these things have anything to do with me being mafia

great job guys

Sure it does; if you never get lynched as town yet you're at serious risk of being lynched when you get lynched as mafia all the time it makes you relatively more likely to be scum.

Unfortunately the same is true for Wave so that doesn't really help.

I do get lynched as town

I was almost lynched last game but mafia bussed too hard to make it happen

this is horrid. bad players gonna bad, it has nothing to do with how I've played

The point is things frequently happen that make you not get lynched as town which makes it statistically less likely for you to be town when you are in massive risk of getting lynched.

I don't want to switch now though so whatever.

this is so wtf

I just want to hit myself
Writer@WriterYamato
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 23:44 GMT
#1374
On April 29 2015 08:40 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:33 rsoultin wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:31 Breshke wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 07:55 WaveofShadow wrote:
Can't do anything now, no time
Palmar rsoul yamato pribably
Could also be wrong on Trfel but doubt it

Gg
Shouldn't have joined this game

Does Wave even bother with this if he's scum?


probably. If you look at the time he spent arguing with rso when this was when he was going to be less active he is probably invested enough to make a post like that.


...

i'm beginning to want to lynch yamato solely because breshke is posting like he wants wave dead while voting for yamato @.@


this is aswful rso.

Do you not disagree with what i said? I obiously think he is town but im being fucking realistic that him posting that doesn't make him town its NAI

Also you letting your WRONG read on me influance everything you do is not good


i'm not voting for him ^^ it's just clearly weird
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 28 2015 23:44 GMT
#1375
Like I'm sorry if I fucked this up. I just can't believe WoS would be such a monumental dick ever as town.
Computer says mafia
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
April 28 2015 23:45 GMT
#1376
On April 29 2015 08:44 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:41 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:39 Trfel wrote:
On April 29 2015 08:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Trfel, the town alternative for Yamato I can see there is that he simply didn't really want to see BH lynched and that was his primary thought focus at the time.
Enough to make him specifically state that he had no better lynch?

I dunno. If he didn't follow it up with pushing me again before the lynch it does look pretty bad. I can imagine him not pushing me as alternative instantly, but he should realize it at some point before the lynch.
He never did.

His Day 1 was just like:

WaveofShadow is suspicious
Artanis is mafia
Maybe Artanis isn't mafia?
Artanis looks pretty suspicious
Don't lynch Blazinghand
Don't lynch Blazinghand!

No follow through on WaveofShadow or Artanis at all...

But I suppose his explanation does have some merit. That's not how I read his post at all, but I guess maybe I could see it anyway. Ugh.

what's a good use of my time with 1 hour left?

trying to extend the day when I don't like the lynch?

or trying to yell about people I'm not really sure on when no one is around to really lynch them?

hmmmmmmm

just wtf
Writer@WriterYamato
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
April 28 2015 23:46 GMT
#1377
On April 29 2015 08:44 Palmar wrote:
Like I'm sorry if I fucked this up. I just can't believe WoS would be such a monumental dick ever as town.

You don't need to apologize as you weren't the one that got him lynched. That was Trfel and a bit of me.
Trfel
Profile Joined August 2011
7015 Posts
April 28 2015 23:47 GMT
#1378
On April 29 2015 08:42 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Meh, I think I just want to stay on Wave as Yamato cares too much atm.
He hasn't been caring for a while. And he cares only when he's at risk of being lynched.

It's been 48 hours since yamato77 was seriously scumhunting (and his content was fairly good then, but still...).

Were WaveofShadow mafia, I would think that mafia would jump all over this. I conclude that if WaveofShadow is mafia, then his partner is either not voting for him or isn't here. Which isn't very useful at all.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
April 28 2015 23:47 GMT
#1379
Well I kind of shut down everything else for the entire game.
Computer says mafia
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
April 28 2015 23:47 GMT
#1380
lol my give a shits

i wish i could find them

palmar if we kill wave will you actually pick up cause that's what i'm hoping?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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