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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 26 2015 23:02 GMT
#561
On April 27 2015 07:57 indignant wrote:
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On April 27 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not really convinced on the Breshke wagon.

1) "Pretty meh posts" applies to most players so far. He doesn't even have the most "meh" posts.
2) As I said before, it's not like him assuming that a more experienced player would be more likely correct on setup speculation implies that he reads said player as town. It's not hard to fake correct reads as scum, and it's even easier (and profitable) for scum to fake correct setup speculation. I just don't see how a player being correct on some setup thing makes him towny or why Breshke should think so.

You obviously didn't even read my post on Breshke. Way to go.


I guess there is the point of him not focusing on anything useful.... *shrug* It's just that neither have most others. And to the last point I already answered with point 2.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:04 GMT
#562
On April 27 2015 07:57 sicklucker wrote:
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On April 27 2015 07:37 The Shining wrote:
I mean, sort of but not really?

The "I'm happy to finally roll town" bit seemed a bit unnecessary to open with but as far as doing his own thing, there are others doing...well, nothing at all. Sand directly got at Koshi almost immediately for the IDC attitude. He's got a scum lean or two(depends on if indignant is JAT). He brings up a current topic in indignants questioning of Breshke.

I feel like more examples of posting just to post are like...rso(I know she said shed pick it up tonight but meh). SL(voting Marv cuz he's scum until proven innocent. That's not a real read, is it?)

I'm sure I'll have more to say but I'm still looking through filters.


Yes its a very good read and a read I will use everygame untill I role mafia with marv because as mafia he can never bother to handle the presure which is why its used.

I didnt know of his pregame excuse or I would have laid off but he didnt handle it very well

Didn't handle what very well? I totally ignored your/koshi original votes because whether i am mafia or town they are both irrelevant and don't do anything
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
indignant
Profile Joined April 2015
1028 Posts
April 26 2015 23:06 GMT
#563
On April 27 2015 08:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 07:57 indignant wrote:
On April 27 2015 07:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not really convinced on the Breshke wagon.

1) "Pretty meh posts" applies to most players so far. He doesn't even have the most "meh" posts.
2) As I said before, it's not like him assuming that a more experienced player would be more likely correct on setup speculation implies that he reads said player as town. It's not hard to fake correct reads as scum, and it's even easier (and profitable) for scum to fake correct setup speculation. I just don't see how a player being correct on some setup thing makes him towny or why Breshke should think so.

You obviously didn't even read my post on Breshke. Way to go.


I guess there is the point of him not focusing on anything useful.... *shrug* It's just that neither have most others. And to the last point I already answered with point 2.

No, you didn't. The point is that he claimed some kind of "trap play" which makes no sense if he just assumes that sandro is right about his speculation because how do you think he could catch him then?
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:06 GMT
#564
Marv do you have any idea who mafia is? Because im not getting that vibe and your filter is all fluff
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:07 GMT
#565
On April 27 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Marv do you have any idea who mafia is? Because im not getting that vibe and your filter is all fluff

no, and i've quite clearly stated no, and why is that in any way scummy?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:07 GMT
#566
On April 27 2015 01:07 marvellosity wrote:
I think breshke is town too, I don't really recall him getting stuck in early with longish posts as mafia


I like that read tbh
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:08 GMT
#567
On April 27 2015 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 27 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Marv do you have any idea who mafia is? Because im not getting that vibe and your filter is all fluff

no, and i've quite clearly stated no, and why is that in any way scummy?


because your pretty good at finding them
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:11 GMT
#568
On April 27 2015 08:08 sicklucker wrote:
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On April 27 2015 08:07 marvellosity wrote:
On April 27 2015 08:06 sicklucker wrote:
Marv do you have any idea who mafia is? Because im not getting that vibe and your filter is all fluff

no, and i've quite clearly stated no, and why is that in any way scummy?


because your pretty good at finding them

not always straight away on day 1, and you should know this, as you seem to know me so well

either i find something i find is off and i can push it, or i don't

i never manufacture reads as town, and i never impart more certainty to reads than i have

so again, why is it in any way scummy that I don't know who is mafia right now? Do you think there is some obvious scum I am missing? Or is there a whole lot of not a lot going on and actually it's pretty unsurprising that I don't have a particular read?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:12 GMT
#569
I never said it makes you mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:14 GMT
#570
i asked you why something is scummy, and you gave a (bad) reason

so obviously that is you thinking i am mafia to some degree

you also failed to answer how i "didn't handle it very well" when i just ignored your/koshi's votes

if you're going to play with fire, you better be ready to dance, boy
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:14 GMT
#571
Hes my interpretation of not handling the pressure well

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Making a big deal about it posting pointless shit to defend yourself while do nothing to solve the game
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
April 26 2015 23:15 GMT
#572
On April 26 2015 23:08 Breshke wrote:
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On April 26 2015 22:59 indignant wrote:
On April 26 2015 22:55 Breshke wrote:
On April 26 2015 22:45 indignant wrote:
On April 26 2015 22:35 Breshke wrote:
On April 26 2015 21:30 indignant wrote:
By the way, if there is a cop in this game: Don't ever check me.


Why not just be really townie instead of saying something that would probably make the cop more interested in you.

I am not allowed to explain this in detail but I am sure you have a brain and can figure it out yourself.


no I understand but obviously someone saying "cop don't investigate me" would naturally make the cop interested in said person so why not just act really townie instead.

If you understand then what's the point of this interrogation?

A) You ask sandro a useless question.
B) You ask me a useless question.
C) You keep the useless questioning up even though you claim to understand why I said what I said.

It feels very much like you are just posting to be posting.


I don't think the question to sandro is a useless one because if he doesnt have a proper explanation i thought it was possible he could be mafia because knowing all the mafias rols would give you a lot more information about what would happen in the night. I have since realised that is probably dumb. You have still never explained how it is obvious how he reached the conclusion that it is 1.5 lynches per night btw.

I understand your reason behind it but i don't think it is a right one. It is like claiming mason some people think that you shouldnt because you are town and just should act town and the cop won't investigate you.

But instead you have basically claimed that a cop investigating you would have bad consequences for the cop which doesn't really seem to be a very town sided role to begin with. Upon that if you were actually town I don't see why you are worried about this in the first place.


Well, it's not like probably correct -> 100% correct. I don't really see the scummy motivation for asking a question where there's a chance of a slip or something. Whatever. I don't think it's anywhere near textbook scum to even make weird/questionable plays in the first place.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 26 2015 23:16 GMT
#573
I didn't read the previous 32ish posts. So don't hold me accountable if I missed things said in those.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:16 GMT
#574
why does that surprise you, if you know me?

sounds to me that's *exactly* how i might react in such a situation as town

don't you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:16 GMT
#575
Oh I do think its scummy. Not enough to say your mafia
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:17 GMT
#576
can you not read?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
April 26 2015 23:17 GMT
#577
I never claimed to know you your putting words into my mouth.

I know you gave up consecutive games day1 as scum.

I know that you know I did this to you in like consecutive games as well so why are you making so much drama about it.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
April 26 2015 23:18 GMT
#578
On April 27 2015 08:16 Koshi wrote:
I didn't read the previous 32ish posts. So don't hold me accountable if I missed things said in those.

I really don't like the vibe i'm getting from koshi

ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#579
On April 27 2015 08:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2015 08:16 Koshi wrote:
I didn't read the previous 32ish posts. So don't hold me accountable if I missed things said in those.

I really don't like the vibe i'm getting from koshi

Please tell us more.
I had a good night of sleep.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
April 26 2015 23:19 GMT
#580
I made literally zero drama about it when you voted me at the start of the game. None at all.

I am "making a drama" out of it now, because your line of questioning/reasoning makes no sense

you're saying i'm scummy for reacting just like i would normally react as town

when your read is that i just give up and cba as mafia

you have also townread me before when i get indignant at someone calling me mafia

so nothing you say makes very much sense
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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