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The Shining
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On March 02 2015 18:26 yamato77 wrote: There's just no feasible way that both artanis and FF were mafia, and artanis DIDN'T VOTE HIM Would scum goon Artanis vote scum Godfather FF to save himself? I toyed with that possibility. It explains his unwillingness to defend himself and shift off his wagon to save himself. | ||
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The Shining
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I should really be asleep right now. | ||
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The Shining
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On March 02 2015 18:48 Tronak wrote: I certainly can't follow why Artanis and FF can't be mafia toguether. I'm sorry but it's late and my brain is broken. Are you agreeing with me here? Or at least agreeing that them as a team is a possibility? | ||
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The Shining
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On March 01 2015 08:41 KelsierSC wrote: If you are worrried about safety then we lynch ff because artanis does useful things as town . So Kels tried to save Artanis, as well. I saw this while reanalyzing votes and EoD actions leading up to the lynch. I'm too tired to dive Kels right now but I will when I wake up. Kels had a ton of filter but nothing particularly memorable, which doesn't feel right considering all that content. Onegu hasn't done much today, either. Yamato is right. I don't see any possible scum bussing unless I waffle on my weakest reads, which are SL and Tronak. But Tronak is still reading town to me and SL...I can't lynch him until something disproves my theory. And don't ask me what it is because if scum hasn't seen it, I won't point it out to them. To me, its still likely that its Prob/kelskynegu. Both are on the counter wagon, possibly trying to save Artanis. My FF godfather theory is basically tinfoil but it isn't impossible either. | ||
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The Shining
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On March 05 2015 05:33 Eden1892 wrote: where is this i'm probably gonna sheep tronak onto you if this doesn't materialize fwiw Lol is this because you're my final scum, Onegu? I can't wait to see this case. I'm sheeping myself onto you fwiw. | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining
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On March 05 2015 19:26 Onegu wrote: And don't worry you will get the case before EOD I promise. Other than that I don't have any reads for you other than Yamato obv town. And tormented uber townie also. You mean our Cop is uber townie? Wtf, why would you bother reading an unCCd blue role? Or did you miss that and that's why you killed Eden instead of Tormented? And if you're going to tunnel on me, and you do flip town, I really hope you feel like shit for buying into the easy lynchbait and throwing the game when I flip town at lylo. Its already ridiculously obvious that scum is setting me up for the mislynch so I'll be alive until endgame. Yay me. Fuck it, just lynch me today and save me the trouble of trying to save this stupid town. I have a case and don't even want to finish it anymore. Yamato thinks it could be me. Tronak thinks Onegu is scum but can't wait to see his case on me. Onegu is casing me. That leaves SL and Tormented. If either one of you want to vote me, let me know and I'll drop my vote so I can go instead of Onegu. Then you tards can mislynch Onegu and throw the game. Have fun. Later. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
It's annoying and exactly what happened to me last game. I had to pull a case out of my ass because everyone including me was tunneled on a replacement mislynch and it just didn't feel right. Best part is, i nailed the last scum and town still lost. Its happening again here and I just don't feel like putting in all that extra effort again so just lynch me. I've been playing too much mafia, I need a break. | ||
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The Shining
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Yay, doobie at work. Goodbye rage, hello scum, I'm coming for you. Disregard what I said about not wanting to put the extra effort in, I'd never forgive myself. Welp, I think there's a shot Onegu is town and scum is setting up to mislynch Onegu and have me mislynched for the win. Of course, this is all moot if Onegu is in fact scum but last time I was in this situation, it didn't play out that way so I'm assuming it'll go the same way here. Case incoming. | ||
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The Shining
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Ggs. | ||
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The Shining
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On March 06 2015 09:33 Blazinghand wrote: The Shining has been warned for language/behavior. Please remember to treat this game and your fellow players respectfully and have fun! Aye. I log you all and I'm sorry. No, log does not = love but my typo made me lol so it stays. | ||
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The Shining
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The Shining
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##Vote: Tronak No way I'm getting my case out before EoD. I don't expect anyone to sheep me either. But I really don't think that Onegu case comes from scum. And he's got 4 votes without mine, I could hammer him to save myself but he seems about as worried as I do about being lynched. And I'm not worried at all lol lynching me helps town get rid of lylo lynchbait, since the two wagons are both town IMO. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
D1 opening: Really odd. Introduces himself as a newbie which is okay but then offers up an agreement to scumProb's stance on RNG lynch. Normally, its okay to be against an RNG lynch but as he says himself, that debate was over. So all he is doing is echoing thread sentiment and parroting scumProbulous. On February 24 2015 19:32 Tronak wrote: Hi all You answered your self, I’m the newest newbie. Since its impossible for me to recognize ANY of the names I would have expected you would introduce yourself before asking about the new. Your opening contributed to light up the game since it was followed by almost everyone, however I found very few real usefull information in presentations, so I leave it here, presentations are finished now I guess. Completly agree, but looks I am late again and this debate is over too. There are some interesting reads going on already, I keep reading posts and try to catch up to help with my thoughts. Then he follows with a kind of list/summary post that scum usually like to hide behind. Pressure Snarfs for being a vet and suggesting RNG. Lightly pressures scumArtanis for his opening but wants to hear more from him. Fees that scumProbulous "won the mini battle" against townDamdred. And everyone not mentioned in this post is town, which is odd because later in his filter I'm null and I don't think SL had posted by this point either. There at least 1-2 scum on this list, according to Tronak, the newbie. Probulous and Artanis are in this list. This could be a very early way to set yourself up if bussing is necessary later in the game. Especially as Godfather, since you won't be a red check. However, even listing these 2 early as possible scum, he waffles over the Artanis vote on and off and stays off the Probulous vote for FF. There is a lot more to this case but I figured getting something out before EoD might help town, in case votes swung my way while I posted this. | ||
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The Shining
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On February 25 2015 21:09 Tronak wrote: I could jump in this train since Yamato is still suspicious for me. I was hoping Yamato to answer my "summary" post and later reminder. Not sure if he didnt answer because: a) my points could harm him b) my arguments are so "noob" that not worth answering me. However I want also to jump in Yamatos & Sicklucker train and lynch Kelsier for filling 3 pages of rubish in a thread that was taking a good direction (deeper analysis were going on). About this, Eden what made you abandon your line of scum arguments on Kelsier? Just his case on sicklucker? You considered Yamato a better target? or any other thing I cant arrive to see? Finally, trying to follow up a bit the points I opened yesterday here: - My initial opinions about Scarfs-Artanis and Yamatos openings were weak as those who have talked about this (Scarfs – Artanis and guess Kelsier in his way) pointed out. I had a fast look on other Mafia games and checked that is true that game openings are full of trollish bullshit (guess no news for the veterans, they were for me though). -Also going to stop, for now, my soft push on Artanis despite he also keeps being suspicious in my newbie thinking since although I can now understand his case on Tormented, I don't buy it. All accussations on Tormented seem weak to me so far, this is a feeling not something very rational. However, I can’t abandon the idea that Artanis may want us to follow a dead line just based on how well timed his case came into the thread. After putting all this toguether, it looks like nobody gonna follow my point and my potential vote on Artanis would be futile, so I decided I’ll gather more and better information in the future. -My actual thinking on other people mentioned in my post: (i) Probulous: a good but unsuccessfull case on Damdred which he abandons, and in general short townie looking good interventions. Can’t read on him. (ii) Damdred: I am know convinced by his own defense and most players opinion that he must be town. -And to add my fresh honest thinkings about the rest: (i) WaveShadow: cant read him other than town so far. (ii) Node: I read him town as explained in previous posts. Scarfs case on him didnt make me change my mind. (iii) Scarfs: null about him with big fear of losing what I find so far a very usefull player for my learning. (iv) The Shining: ( empty ) (v) Eden: I like how she pushes, should be town. (vi) sicklucker: cant read him properly, I think if he keeps being so selective in his appeareances he could enter in my suspicious list easyly. Conclusion: I will wait some more before voting for Yamato or Kelsier based on what others may bring on the table unless something really new appears that makes me change completly my mind. A couple of things with this post. First off, its a change in tone and style compared to the rest of his filter. And, similar to how Onegu said I did this, Tronaks filter is full of posts where he calls himself newbie, noob, newb, constantly discounting his own opinion. At this point, he's still scum reading Artanis but sees the mislynch in Wave picking up traction(there is a post in his filter where he tries to pressure Wave beforehand too) so he stops pushing Artie. He understands the Tormented case from Artie but doesn't buy it. But he can't explain why Artie targeting Tormented just doesn't feel right. If he's scum, I'd imagine it is hard to explain away why your scum partner is hard pushing a green. He also says Probulous is townie looking but can't read him. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:29 Tronak wrote: Btw it was you asking for a Conglomeration. I made best case I could. Shining what do you think of Onegus case on you? Wasn't planning on defending it unless I was leading in votes. I'm more concerned with Tronak than saving myself. | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
On March 07 2015 08:26 Tronak wrote: Again the lynch Tronak thinguie as Prob tried? ... I at least put inputs behind my reasonings... and answer to anybodys questions. Now we got Onegus hardly answering questions... SL ignoring everyone, Shining making no-case on me, god! 48h ago I had FF as my best scum read but at least he "plays". Knowing shining gonna be on me, I would rather vote him tbh... This post is pretty scummy. Not voting me because he believes the Onegu case(which he's attacking while saying I'm scummy?) But instead would vote me because I'm on him. Paranoid? | ||
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The Shining
United States2406 Posts
Good news is, there's 6 of us. NK of either Yamato or Tormented. Tomorrow, I get mislynched, flip VT. Whoever doesn't die tonight dies for that NK. Your lylo is looking like Tronak, Sicklucker, Fecalfeast. | ||
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The Shining
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On March 07 2015 09:00 Tronak wrote: Read my filter tbh. My main targets been for last days Kelser>SL=shining>FF. I havent got game solving. I have. That's why I'm casing you. You have potentially scummed every single person in this game, while your town reads keep dying. The longer you go on, I believe less and less its town paranoia and more scum flinging scum in all directions. | ||
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