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Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:25 GMT
#2882
On January 04 2015 03:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 03:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Vivax is starting to make sense.

Kelsier why don't you want to lynch Robik?


Do you?

I think there are better lynches.

I might. I didn't like how he had a scumread on you for some reason then never got back to telling us why as well as the thing Vivax pointed out. He's also been pretty useless for the most part, drawing attention to stuff like sicklucker's question about who the cop should check.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:26 GMT
#2883
Actually, he did say he was going to post the case about why Kelsier is scum today.
I look forward to it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:33 GMT
#2886
On January 04 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis will you be in the thread about 3 hours from now? I need to have a chat with you.


Here is what is breaking my brain here.

before the night kills. We have people who scum read geript. We have a few people who late vote on bats, I think I made good cases on dam and SL I have been pressing these people.

But after the night kills we get this "ooh Viv is confirmed scum" i am like the only person along with hat who actually tries to question him or even consider the night kills. A lot of people come in and vote afk. They dont even question just attempt buries .

No one is even considering other people and all these geript scum reads are now forgotten because "i dunno he felt sorta town actually"

I think my brain is exploding. Again people consider my cses on SL and dam, explain why geript is town now because i don't get this at all.


I can't promise 3 hours specifically but I'll be around.

As for why Geript is town (though I still have doubts), I posted it before. His end of D1 play made no sense from a scum perspective and I could make sense out of it from a town perspective in leaving a legacy. He didn't try to survive at all costs, nor did he quit entirely. It just seems like a high risk low reward play for mafia to make, whereas the town reasoning is simple: Provide a guideline for town to go on after his death.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:33 GMT
#2888
On January 04 2015 03:32 KelsierSC wrote:
Also people are completely glossing over how perfectly the night kills incriminate Viv


Koshi and Eden were townread by the stark majority of town. I don't see a need for additional reasoning for mafia to shoot them.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:39 GMT
#2891
On January 04 2015 03:36 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 03:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 04 2015 03:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis will you be in the thread about 3 hours from now? I need to have a chat with you.


Here is what is breaking my brain here.

before the night kills. We have people who scum read geript. We have a few people who late vote on bats, I think I made good cases on dam and SL I have been pressing these people.

But after the night kills we get this "ooh Viv is confirmed scum" i am like the only person along with hat who actually tries to question him or even consider the night kills. A lot of people come in and vote afk. They dont even question just attempt buries .

No one is even considering other people and all these geript scum reads are now forgotten because "i dunno he felt sorta town actually"

I think my brain is exploding. Again people consider my cses on SL and dam, explain why geript is town now because i don't get this at all.


I can't promise 3 hours specifically but I'll be around.

As for why Geript is town (though I still have doubts), I posted it before. His end of D1 play made no sense from a scum perspective and I could make sense out of it from a town perspective in leaving a legacy. He didn't try to survive at all costs, nor did he quit entirely. It just seems like a high risk low reward play for mafia to make, whereas the town reasoning is simple: Provide a guideline for town to go on after his death.


If he is scum where should his vote have gone?

If you say bats I already explained why that doesn't work.

There are plenty of good cases on geript. My case, palmers case are good. Also people had scum reads on geript n1 but after the night kills suddenly no one gives a shit.

Your filter is too long for me to find it. What were your reasons for Geript not being able to vote Bats?

Also my case was the best.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:45 GMT
#2896
On January 04 2015 03:44 justanothertownie wrote:
How is this so hard to understand? If geript votes batsnacks NOONE will scumread him for that alone because every townie would do exactly that. Stop being dense.

This. Voting for self-preservation is as alignment unindicative as it gets. Unless there's a jester in play.
Geript are you a jester?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:46 GMT
#2897
On January 04 2015 03:45 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 03:44 justanothertownie wrote:
How is this so hard to understand? If geript votes batsnacks NOONE will scumread him for that alone because every townie would do exactly that. Stop being dense.


The only reason people have this townread on geript is because of his weird vote, which is a shit reason anyway. If you think he votes on bats and doesn't get lynched today I just..

I just told you why I have a townread on Geript. It had nothing to do with his vote and everything to do with his posts about 4 hours leading up to the lynch.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:50 GMT
#2902
On January 04 2015 03:48 KelsierSC wrote:
Artanis you just said you townreas geript because you didn't understand.scum motivation for his vote

I never said that. I said I didn't understand the town nor scum motivation for his vote so I considered that action null.
I townread Geript because
His end of D1 play made no sense from a scum perspective and I could make sense out of it from a town perspective in leaving a legacy. He didn't try to survive at all costs, nor did he quit entirely. It just seems like a high risk low reward play for mafia to make, whereas the town reasoning is simple: Provide a guideline for town to go on after his death.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:54 GMT
#2904
I'm not completely convinced Geript is town yet either. I still have doubts, but his play at the end of D1 made me want to keep him around for a bit longer. If he does fuck all today I'd be happy to lynch him, but that goes for more people than just Geript.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 18:55 GMT
#2907
Honestly we should just vote Superbia until he starts shitting townie bricks. 5 posts since D1 is unacceptable.
##Unvote Vivax
##Vote Superbia
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 19:40 GMT
#2922
On January 04 2015 04:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 04 2015 02:48 Damdred wrote:
I do kind of like that point that Vivax is making though, Robik didn't really follow through with what he was talking during the night.


Not just that, he scolds me when I'm analysing Eden.

On January 03 2015 10:10 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz.

vivax, stop shitposting or you will get lynched per koshi's request


He's like SO confident that Eden is town. But going as far as calling it shitposting when I'm just talking about my impressions.
He scumreads JAT a little during the day but during the night he completely ignores the argument between us, and D2 he's like 100 % sure I'm the only viable lynch for the day. No questions asked, no comments given.

this is describing my town play to a T btw. strong clearing people i think are town and leading conversation away from them because its useless and i will not let them get lynched...also, while you may think im dumb and ballsy, i dont spend my last 4 posts talking about how im going to kill eden for making good posts and then kill him.

This is wifom, don't do that.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 19:54 GMT
#2933
On January 04 2015 03:26 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Actually, he did say he was going to post the case about why Kelsier is scum today.
I look forward to it.

Robik?
On January 04 2015 04:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 04:40 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
On January 04 2015 04:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 04 2015 02:54 Vivax wrote:
On January 04 2015 02:48 Damdred wrote:
I do kind of like that point that Vivax is making though, Robik didn't really follow through with what he was talking during the night.


Not just that, he scolds me when I'm analysing Eden.

On January 03 2015 10:10 IAmRobik wrote:
On January 03 2015 10:05 Vivax wrote:
Kinda bugs me how Eden first scumreads Doc, then scumreads Chyz, then goes on with saying "One or the other is mafia" when they have been in such a clińch. Excluding a bussing here cause of that ragequit from Chyz. But I feel like Eden has been way less vocal about DrH than say TheCyyz.

vivax, stop shitposting or you will get lynched per koshi's request


He's like SO confident that Eden is town. But going as far as calling it shitposting when I'm just talking about my impressions.
He scumreads JAT a little during the day but during the night he completely ignores the argument between us, and D2 he's like 100 % sure I'm the only viable lynch for the day. No questions asked, no comments given.

this is describing my town play to a T btw. strong clearing people i think are town and leading conversation away from them because its useless and i will not let them get lynched...also, while you may think im dumb and ballsy, i dont spend my last 4 posts talking about how im going to kill eden for making good posts and then kill him.

This is wifom, don't do that.

its a bit wifomy, but it is true, so why cant i use that to towns advantage. also, do you or do you not agree with me that town is more likely to be posting come phase shift than scum, given that it was late arriving and scum are probably waitingfor flips to see if they hit roles and so they wouldnt tallk/slip about their night kill

It's more than a bit wifomy. If you use it as a defense as to why you'd be town then that means it has no value as you could've planned it as scum very easily.

I guess a little bit but I wouldn't put too much stock on it.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 20:50 GMT
#3016
Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying.

On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred.

Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong.

Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads?

So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post

On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.

Quick thought list

I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.

Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either.

Not too impressive imo.

BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum!

Vivax called damdred town very recently actually.

He did? where?

Take a look into his filter and you will find it.


Artanis, you around?

Hai.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 20:52 GMT
#3018
Guys can we please pile on Superbia until he starts posting at the very least so he doesn't live with a <1 page filter into D3?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 20:55 GMT
#3020
Speak of the devil.

Why are you bringing that up now? It's been 2 days and he explained it by saying he forced himself to choose between a town/scum read. I think it's a shit explanation but I don't think that makes him very mafia.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 21:03 GMT
#3027
On January 04 2015 06:00 Lazermonkey wrote:
Artanis/Superbia/Robik/anyone else that is here: comments on Damdred?

I still need to read his filter since your case is pretty much "he hasn't been doing this, check his filter".
Will you vote Superbia with me?
Superbia4lynch '15.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 21:04 GMT
#3028
On January 04 2015 06:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2015 05:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Robik is looking pretty bad. Maybe worse than Vivax. Still want to lynch Superbia more because his constant check-ins and then not doing anythings are annoying.

On January 04 2015 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:44 Lazermonkey wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:39 justanothertownie wrote:
On January 04 2015 05:37 Lazermonkey wrote:
I'm actually super cool with killing Vivax atm. But since everyone else is as well, and there is no point in town afk for 48 hours and agree how scummy we think Vivax is, we might as well talk about someone else. Like Damdred.

Damdred is not chasing scum. He is answering everyone very politely when they ask him questions and he is always really fast to answer suspicion on him. This is not necessarily bad, both town and scum wants to survive and be polite. But when that is ALL you do then there is something seriously wrong.

Reading the last two pages of filter he has three suspects, me, SL and DH. But none of us are even close to get lynched atm. So, why would you ever prioritizing answer questions instead of pushing your scum reads?

So what does Damdred think of the other relavant stuff? Like the guy who is about to get lynched, Vivax? Well, noone knows. While Damdred does mention Vivax in some contexts, the only time he even comes remotely close to taking any stance on Vivax is in this post

On January 02 2015 11:35 Damdred wrote:
I'm sorry for my absence, had parents and work today so got sucked away.

Quick thought list

I do not think i would lynch Chy today yea his going away post was kind of meh but he put the effort in to at least do it and his frustration really seems like its honest, and the tunnel on him this game is way different then the game he is linked to I think. Its way more concentrated here and I don't think he really can do much when hes being called scum for almost half the posts every page.

Koshi really brought up something good about vivax I think but i'm not sure that i like how geript is marching to his death here either.

Not too impressive imo.

BONUS FACT : Vivax never takes a stance on Damdred. Take that for what its worth but I think its very likely that we have both Vivax and Damdred as scum!

Vivax called damdred town very recently actually.

He did? where?

Take a look into his filter and you will find it.


Artanis, you around?

Hai.

Show nested quote +
On January 03 2015 11:30 Artanis[Xp] wrote:


I find it weird how Palmar/Robik/Vivax all jumped on JAT at pretty much the same time. I have a retarded theory about that that I can only share post-night. Agreed with Marv that especially Vivax' case was reaching. Palmar's feels genuine. I remember him making a post about making no shenannies at night. Unfortunately, I'm a bad boy.

Could you explain this now?

Oh right. I figured that there might be scum in there trying to incriminate you long enough for a medic to decide not to heal you that night so they could shoot you.

Guess I was wrong since 2 people died and none of them were you.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 21:14 GMT
#3045
On January 04 2015 06:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Superbia is doing something he did when he was mafia the last time. Interesting.

Can you elaborate on that?
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 21:21 GMT
#3063
Superbia you're being awfully abrasive for someone who posted 5 times in the last 3 days. We have every right to be upset with you. Suck it up and do some work.
Artanis[Xp]
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Netherlands12968 Posts
January 03 2015 21:27 GMT
#3070
Just making sure I understand your points on Damdred before I go through his filter Lazer:
-Not chasing scum
-Focussing attention on defending himself and answering questions rather than developing reads
-Asking the wrong people questions
-Doesn't take a stance on Vivax

Tell me if I missed anything.
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