If I died this night, no one would bat an eye and people would follow my list. Being still alive as pretty much the sole townread already creates doubt on both my alignment and my ideas.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 02:17 GMT

#8787

The problem for scum was that Vivax and I share the exact same idea. Killing either of us will just make sure that the other follows up on it. Shooting Chez was the only way to put people on another track. Pretty brilliant idea really.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 02:20 GMT

#8790

I SAY FORWARD
##Vote Lazermonkey

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 02:22 GMT

#8793

On January 15 2015 11:19 Vivax wrote:

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Yep, I forced them to do that with the post where I say that I wouldn't kill you cause you're a bro

Oh shit that comment was gold looking back at it.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 02:23 GMT

#8797

On January 15 2015 11:23 Vivax wrote:
I'm lynching Kelsier before LM.

I'm okay with this too. I chose the lynch last time, I'll sheep you this time.
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 02:28 GMT

#8800

I kind of don't want to let LM get away today though. It feels icky.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 02:31 GMT

#8802

But now bed.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 13:32 GMT

#8926

So GB...
In your world Mafia SL fakeclaims, then 2 mafia start second guessing his claim?

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 13:36 GMT

#8930

On January 15 2015 22:35 GlowingBear wrote:

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If it is for him to rescind in the middle of the night and get town read for his stupid thing, then yes.

Did it look planned to you? Because if it was planned it'd have to be with Kelsier who originally triggered it.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 13:42 GMT

#8935

On January 15 2015 22:38 GlowingBear wrote:

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And I'm okay with Kelsier being mafia, so... yes

But not only would this mean that 4 mafia were involved in a fakeclaim that was high risk low reward, not only that, but then SL also never pointed out how retarded this is when people brought up suspicion to get the towncred that he wanted with this action.

Yeah, no.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 13:49 GMT

#8939

Chezinu

It was a cold and windy January day,
When my friend sadly passed away.
This was the day when a boy with a knife,
took away my friends life

Today, we commemorate the loss of a valued member of our town and world citizen, Chezinu. He was a man without a home, wandering from place to place and rarely feeling welcome. I remember him visiting the town of Twitch, where people feared him for not being able to tell his visage. He speaks in riddles, often misunderstood, but those that approached him know the warmth and unwaivering companionship that he offered. Yet, people he touched seemed to die in front of his eyes.

On January 06 2015 14:21 Chezinu wrote:
Geez, my first two townreads die... It's like the mafias knows...

I'm proud to say that I was a friend of Chezinu until his final, untimely death. His problems in communication make his death all the worse. It means that mafia discriminates against the verbally disabled. The perpetrators must be brought to justice.

Chezinu, I swear on all the gods, the old, the new and the chupazi that you shall be avenged. Your death will not be in vain.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 13:52 GMT

#8942

SL, for Damdred to be scum both GB and LM need to be town and that's a world I really can't see right now.

Artanis[Xp]

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January 15 2015 13:57 GMT

#8946

On January 15 2015 22:54 GlowingBear wrote:
Artanis, what are your reasons to scumread LM excluding PoE?

I want Marv to answer that because he's been awfully waffly on actually addressing him.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 13:58 GMT

#8948

On January 15 2015 22:53 Damdred wrote:
Artanis you looked at my games town and mafia a like I think earlier. Activity wise is this less than my town games like GB and SL are claiming at this juncture?

I'm trying to find my post on you I made earlier because it's a bit fuzzy. I don't think I actually checked you activity wise.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 14:00 GMT

#8949

Ah, here it is.

On January 13 2015 01:33 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

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Why did you arrive at this conclusion?

Damdred is asking a lot of "clarifying" questions, you're right, and that along with his opposite reads on Dr.H and Ritoky does point to scum. However he did hop on the Superbia lynch over two town wagons and did not stray which I feel offsets it a bit. I also like how he's gone after Lazer. However I just decided to go look at an older game. His most recent scumgame according to the database was Fantasy Football 2 and towngame Russian Today. I believe I've heard before that Damdred doesn't engage his scum suspects when he's scum. In this game he has, so I wanted to collaborate that.

First thing I notice in his scumgame is this:

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Joking about being town. The opposite and yet similar to what he did this game. Not sure what it means but it could be significant.

In the game, he engages a few of his suspects at the start but then basically only starts conversing with GlowingBear and makes random oneliners here and there. In this game, he looks more engaged with a variety of other people rather than the narrow focus he had in FF.

So, Russian Today:

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Starts the other game with a joke about his alignment as well. Guess it has no significance after all.

In Russian today he's a lot more insightful, engages a lot of people in discussion. In the Towngame he also asks a few seemingly silly questions, but that's hard to check since that'd require going through the thread and seeing if it makes sense and I aint got time for that.

This game he looks more like Russian Today so I'm going to go with Damdred being town this game.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 14:05 GMT

#8951

On January 15 2015 23:03 sicklucker wrote:
Its not that far fetched to think super asked dandred to kill him to get town cred not that I think dandred was the #1 driving force that got super lynched. Super was sooooo inactive. He probably didnt want to play I cant give dandred too much credit for this.

I'm not giving him too much credit for it either. I just feel it offsets the initial suspicion based on the dr.h/ritoky thing.

Artanis[Xp]

Netherlands12968 Posts

January 15 2015 18:10 GMT

#8965

On January 16 2015 02:04 Lazermonkey wrote:
Like my post about GB defending Palmar was such an obvious mistake. You can say something like marv did, i.e. "sure it doesn't have a scum motive, but you are more inclined to do stuff like this as scum you are lying about half the game already". W/e. Even if that is true, its still based on WIFOM.

I think its so silly that Vivax and Artanis would go from saying I'm town to I'm scum for that. Its like next level silly.

That's not why I scumread you, I also never said you were town but that you were looking better.

I just realized that I have a problem with my suggested scumteam though due to a reason for scumreading you. It was that your greatest suspect was GB yet you plopped your vote onto Marv in the end when there were plenty of people that suspected GB (I believe SL and myself voiced concerns quite openly). However, if you were scum with marv it wouldn't make sense to bus him instead since you were broadly suspected by the thread. Though I gave the bussing argument earlier I feel it doesn't add up for you because you're likely to get lynched even if you support a scummarv lynch. It'd make more sense for Marv to go after Palmar in that case, or for you to go after GB.

Yeah, there's too much bussing in my proposed team. Not buying it anymore.