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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 13:40 GMT
#1661
On November 08 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think bats is mafia and i also remember townreading superbia for something when i read the start of the game a couple of days ago.

KSC's stupid cop gambit probably means the slot is town. While it was incredibly stupid it's not scummy the slightest.

So sentinel and ff for mafia.


I think this is reasonable but I'm still really stuck on KSC's gambit. Maybe you could unstuck me if you explain why it might not be scummy.

I can't find the mafia motivation for the act. Why would he do that? Was he about to get lynched? No. It doesn't make any sense to me from mafia perspective.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 08 2014 13:48 GMT
#1662
On November 08 2014 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
On November 08 2014 22:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't think bats is mafia and i also remember townreading superbia for something when i read the start of the game a couple of days ago.

KSC's stupid cop gambit probably means the slot is town. While it was incredibly stupid it's not scummy the slightest.

So sentinel and ff for mafia.


I think this is reasonable but I'm still really stuck on KSC's gambit. Maybe you could unstuck me if you explain why it might not be scummy.

I can't find the mafia motivation for the act. Why would he do that? Was he about to get lynched? No. It doesn't make any sense to me from mafia perspective.


When lighting (cop) claimed people were unvoting him, by CCing KSC guaranteed the real cop would get lynched. The mafia motivation is killing the cop. Then he uncced with 3 minutes left, I tried to switch in time and voted the wrong person, and immediately after day end KSC went after me for being the one directly responsible for killing the cop. Maybe I'm just biased because people came after me (KSC, serejai, sicklucker) and not KSC.

The only redeeming thing I can find in what KSC did was toward the end he tried to get people to switch to sentinel, before he uncced. I should have known at that point he wasn't the real cop but lightning was acting really scummy D1 and I wasn't thinking straight.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 08 2014 13:50 GMT
#1663
ebwop but yeah scum motivation is he killed the cop, tried to blame someone else and get away with it. And it seems like he is getting away with it.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:00 GMT
#1664
So what i see from FF's filter is that he scumreads kush and Sentinel (softly) all game long but somehow his votes always end up on being on someone else (sicklucker & KSC).

Hell he even makes a full case on Sentinel on D1..... It doesn't make any sense. Why would you scumread some people and then push something completely different all game long?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:03 GMT
#1665
On November 08 2014 22:50 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop but yeah scum motivation is he killed the cop, tried to blame someone else and get away with it. And it seems like he is getting away with it.

Basically you cannot kill any power role without getting yourself killed the next day by counter-claiming. That's the basic assumption you should have when you do something like that as mafia. regardless of what actually happens or if you can actually get away with it.
And anyways Cava should be fairly easy to read. But yeah, i'll go read KSC and give my thoughts on him as whole if you want so.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 08 2014 14:08 GMT
#1666
On November 08 2014 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 22:50 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop but yeah scum motivation is he killed the cop, tried to blame someone else and get away with it. And it seems like he is getting away with it.

Basically you cannot kill any power role without getting yourself killed the next day by counter-claiming. That's the basic assumption you should have when you do something like that as mafia. regardless of what actually happens or if you can actually get away with it.
And anyways Cava should be fairly easy to read. But yeah, i'll go read KSC and give my thoughts on him as whole if you want so.


Do you think goon for cop is a bad trade in this setup?
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:10 GMT
#1667
On November 08 2014 23:08 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 23:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 08 2014 22:50 batsnacks wrote:
ebwop but yeah scum motivation is he killed the cop, tried to blame someone else and get away with it. And it seems like he is getting away with it.

Basically you cannot kill any power role without getting yourself killed the next day by counter-claiming. That's the basic assumption you should have when you do something like that as mafia. regardless of what actually happens or if you can actually get away with it.
And anyways Cava should be fairly easy to read. But yeah, i'll go read KSC and give my thoughts on him as whole if you want so.


Do you think goon for cop is a bad trade in this setup?

I think any 1-1 trade is bad for mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:10 GMT
#1668
especially on D1.
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batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 08 2014 14:17 GMT
#1669
You don't need to waste your time reading KSC. I think we're good.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:18 GMT
#1670
On November 08 2014 19:04 Breshke wrote:
For when you wake up obi is your town read on rayn based off sstuff you have read from the person he replaced or his own play?


Mostly his own play. He looks okay based on the stuff I've seen from him thus far.

I can't even remember who he replaced but I'll look into it when I can be assed.
Retired.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:25 GMT
#1671
Kelsier had really easy-to-follow posts and really good reads.
This is probably the best:
On November 04 2014 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
as for.my scum i like the read that Elvis has on sentinal. Also sentinal has spent a lot of the game discussing mechanics, set ups and strategies which is like a good way to try and appear helpful to town but doesn't actually help.

..which is exactly why i have a strong scumread on Sentinel.

Basically if you count out the claim shennies (which could be seen scummy) there is absolutely nothing scummy he has done, he squirts green all over the place.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:27 GMT
#1672
On November 08 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier had really easy-to-follow posts and really good reads.
This is probably the best:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
as for.my scum i like the read that Elvis has on sentinal. Also sentinal has spent a lot of the game discussing mechanics, set ups and strategies which is like a good way to try and appear helpful to town but doesn't actually help.

..which is exactly why i have a strong scumread on Sentinel.

Basically if you count out the claim shennies (which could be seen scummy) there is absolutely nothing scummy he has done, he squirts green all over the place.


Seems unhealthy.
Retired.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
November 08 2014 14:28 GMT
#1673
^ Yeah he should get that checked
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:28 GMT
#1674
Can we get a final votecount for D2 please?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:29 GMT
#1675
On November 08 2014 23:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2014 23:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Kelsier had really easy-to-follow posts and really good reads.
This is probably the best:
On November 04 2014 08:16 KelsierSC wrote:
as for.my scum i like the read that Elvis has on sentinal. Also sentinal has spent a lot of the game discussing mechanics, set ups and strategies which is like a good way to try and appear helpful to town but doesn't actually help.

..which is exactly why i have a strong scumread on Sentinel.

Basically if you count out the claim shennies (which could be seen scummy) there is absolutely nothing scummy he has done, he squirts green all over the place.


Seems unhealthy.

probably why you replaced him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#1676
Also FF has multiple posts where he promises to do something after something but he never really does anything.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:31 GMT
#1677
<3

I'm going to be phoneposting for the majority of today so I won't be caught up until way later. Anything anyone wants me to take a look at real quick?
Retired.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:35 GMT
#1678
Hey Cava one question.
How did you read sicklucker town when you were on page 26? The dude replaced in on p39...
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
November 08 2014 14:37 GMT
#1679
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=83#1647

This post made me laugh. So he gets a townread. Plus I have a really hard time believing that any of the newbies would be able to maintain a 9 page filter and look okay throughout the whole ordeal as mafia.

I'm catching up and keeping up with current events at the same time.
Retired.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
November 08 2014 14:42 GMT
#1680
Okay that makes sense.
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