Hearthstone Mafia - Page 5

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:32 GMT

#1305

God, I can't decide if I should switch to risk or not. He looks like guaranteed scum since his return. But I still want to see what misder says after he returns.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:32 GMT

#1306

On November 03 2014 07:30 Alakaslam wrote:
Hey so what fish I consolidate

Going for Tolkien Sson everyone follow

WAT? What happened to risk? he's still super scummy.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:38 GMT

#1311

We have 4.5 hours. I agree with consolidating, but it's still too early.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:45 GMT

#1314

It looks like Misder has an extra vote on him from nobody. If you look at the history, he was one (1) before I even voted for him.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:45 GMT

#1316

My vote is not worth 2, not as far as I know.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:48 GMT

#1318

You know what, no matter how much I want a misder lynch, VE is right, risk lynch is just better.

##Unvote
##Vote: risk.nuke

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 22:49 GMT

#1319

On November 03 2014 07:47 risk.nuke wrote:
Viscera, how did I react poorly? Wouldn't mind if you were specific.

You appeared out of nowhere and said turning majority lynch into double lynch was scummy.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:05 GMT

#1330

On November 03 2014 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
He said he can't play till next cycle so why not lynch the guy that could and has been completely awful? (lt)

Because he's scum, as we've pointed out. LT was awful at the beginning, but he's been ok (not great) since he actually started playing.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:07 GMT

#1332

On November 03 2014 08:04 risk.nuke wrote:
jrkirby, I came out because I saw something worth commenting on and had time to do it. And I didn't say the ability was scummy, I said the timing and way he used it was scummy because it was being used so sub-optimally.

Viscera, Following the thread is so I'd be aware if anything big happens, It's basically skimming the thread. I haven't had time to look for mafia. I didn't see any danger in myself getting lynched today because it is stupid to lynch someone day1 when he's promised to be active day2. Like that is the optimal mafia agenda. Push the innocent guy as a lurker before he gets a chance to play. If what you say is true, that I'm scum just trying to get away with doing nothing it will be evident day2 and you can lynch me then. I don't understand how you can go like, no, it so SOOOO important to kill me today instead of after I've had a chance to post reads. Your post feel like such bullshit.

Thread: "Why don't you hunt scum?"

risk.nuke: "I'll do it later"

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:11 GMT

#1335

On November 03 2014 08:06 VisceraEyes wrote:

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This defense feels genuine. What do you think of Damdred risk?

You buy that? He's been reading the thread the whole time, but that's the only thing he thought was important to comment on?

If he were reading the thread, why not comment on the extended day? Why comment on nothing and vote on nothing till after the regular day would've ended?

He's 100% scum.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:26 GMT

#1346

On November 03 2014 07:27 Holyflare wrote:
Lt claim or die

Why are you asking him to claim? That's just bad play.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:56 GMT

#1363

The funny thing about LT is his wagon started from misder, who was AFK for the longest time.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 02 2014 23:58 GMT

#1364

Geez, risk still has no scumreads. That's a better reason to lynch someone than whatever shit LT is doing.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:03 GMT

#1367

On November 03 2014 09:01 GlowingBear wrote:
How
Can you guys
Not want
To lynch
Damdred?

Just how?
How?

Risk is 20x scummier. Damdred is just bumblingly bad. Risk is clear scum.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:13 GMT

#1370

It's pretty clear that scum want LT lynched, else he wouldn't have majority now. LT is town because of this.

Makes we kinda wary of my HF town read.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:15 GMT

#1372

Then why are you pushing town?

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:19 GMT

#1375

On November 03 2014 09:18 Holyflare wrote:

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You have 0 reasons why he is town and i have plenty on why he is mafia

Convince me.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:21 GMT

#1378

On November 03 2014 09:20 GlowingBear wrote:
I have plenty of reasons to see him as a joker.

All I know is that he's not scum.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:46 GMT

#1389

On November 03 2014 09:40 Seuss wrote:
This looks less like joker and more like faking joker to get out of a lynch to me.

That's something that occurred to me. But if he were scum, there wouldn't be so many people voting for him. Why is circumstance voting for him? With no chatting in thread either. That sounds kinda like scum trying to finish up a lynch on ~~town~~ not mafia.

Misder is still a jungle panther (stealthed) keeping his vote on him since forever ago before he really started playing. Kinda scummy.

Risk is scummy for other reasons. He's just voting LT because it's the other wagon.

jrkirby

United States1511 Posts

November 03 2014 00:54 GMT

#1394

On November 03 2014 09:52 GlowingBear wrote:
CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE
CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE
CASE ON CIRCUMSTANCE

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On November 03 2014 03:11 GlowingBear wrote:
.: Circumstance, master of passivity

A quick skim through his filter will show that he is the most passive player on the thread.
Who is his top scum read? Nobody knows.
Who does he think is town? Nobody knows.
Not only he refuses to point fingers of suspicion, he also doesn't try to push the thread forward. He did it once. Just once. With oats. But it was still wishy washy.

This is solely my case on him. I'll analyse his passivity post by post now, and bring minor arguments on him. Just click on spoiler:

+ Show Spoiler +

On October 31 2014 12:01 Circumstance wrote:
First game on TL, using TL's systems, thank God I'm town, makes things a lot easier.

(Question: If someone votes in the separate thread, is that vote binding for the day?)

Bad entrance. Downgrades his play (hi guys, I'm new on TL) and forced town claim (I'm town lololol makes things easier(?)). Doesn't look like a natural town writing style to me. As I said before, scum has a hard time trying to put himself in the game. Their writing style is mostly forced.

On October 31 2014 12:18 Circumstance wrote:

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I think it's jumping to conclusions a bit quickly - the game had a clearly defined starting time, so if you didn't post pretty quickly, you'd look suspicious in that you were laying low. Seems like an innocent misread.

You see, he doesn't compromises himself here in any position.
He says people seems forced to post and that was an null tell from Kirby, BUT he also thinks that my push on him is also null. An innocent misread. So both of us were null at that time.
I don't believe this.
In a jokey atmosphere, when someone does what I did, there is clearly a motivation behind it.
Which means
1) I'm town trying to bring serious discussion to the topic
2) I'm town having a scumread
3) I'm scum trying to look townie
4) I'm scum trying to pick on a bad post from town.

That's what you can understand from my post. There is no space for "innocent misread".

On October 31 2014 12:23 Circumstance wrote:

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Because I'm not ready to call out potential scum this early in, and the subject matter is pretty innocuous. Plus, I've dealt with a fair number of games where someone from town made these kind of quick claims that did not always pan out.

Translation: I don't want to bring attention.

On October 31 2014 12:51 Circumstance wrote:

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Just making things clear - if you didn't read portions of the thread, then what makes you say it's all fluff?

"Just making things clear" = I'm not calling you scum for that, I just want clarification. Please don't be angry at me.

On October 31 2014 13:45 Circumstance wrote:

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But the post specifically stated a goal of eliminating the Horde, which someone (don't remember who) suggested would be the Mafia. So what I'm wondering is, was Mr. Bigglesworth a sort of game event, or is there a Kel'Thuzad role?

Useless WIFOM. Disconnected conclusions. "Horde may be mafia, therefore... IS THE CAT A SORT OF EVENT OR THERE IS A KEL THUZAD ROLE?"

On October 31 2014 15:15 Circumstance wrote:
I don't know enough about explanaition posts to try and write soomething super-detailed, and there isn't all too much just yet to go off of, so I'm just gonna give a brief explanation for my first formal action.

The early suspicion for me is on Oats. A quick filter seems to show him being rather "floaty" - posting often enough to be seen as active, replying to discussion posts enough to be seen as involved, but not contributing to those same discussions enough to be seen as the originator of any idea. It seems like he's going out of his way not to initiate or develop any reads, not to move discussions forward, but merely to antagonize, to take existing discussions and say "this is bad, this is wrong, you don't know what you're doing". I can't tell if it's meant as a way to gain the trust of other players or something else entirely, but ATM, this doesn't feel like the way someone acts if they want the town to be moving towards any meaningful conclusion.

Seuss, I understand where you're coming from on GB, but for my money, I think we might be learning more if we

##Analyze: Oatsmaster

"EARLY" suspicion. Translation = "this is not going to hold water for long"
Analyze Oats. Do not vote for him.

NOW, THE MOST ILLUSTRATIVE POST:

On November 01 2014 09:42 Circumstance wrote:
So, we have GB as a call for the D1 backup, and some people seem to be jumping onboard for risk.nuke. I've read the case for lynching risk.nuke, and I'm not yet completely sold. I don't have a solid read on him yet, so can anyone give me a reason we should lynch someone else INSTEAD of risk.nuke?

So, after being afk, he comes to the thread, HE IS OK WITH THE RNG LYNCH AS PLAN B, but he is NOT SOLD ON NUKE'S CASE and ASKS FOR ANOTHER ONE?
Wow. He still has no scumread. He is not convinced of lynching anyone. And he does not take any stance.
In this post, he is:
1) Mostly ok with lynching anyone
2) Not ready enough to sheep a case (still avoiding getting attention)
3) Never taking stances

On November 01 2014 10:47 Circumstance wrote:

Show nested quote +

Do you want me to explain my schedule to you? I will if you want.

As for GB's question, my current reads aren't strong enough to lay out on the table right now, and frankly, I don't know how much it matters at this stage. We've got some clear targets that are slowly beginning to get multiple votes placed on them. If we don't consolidate, we run the risk of a no-lynch, which doesn't benefit anyone. I don't WANT to lynch you right now, GB, because I'm not a fan of RNG and you keep discussions going. But before I place my vote on risk.nuke, I want to hear the argument against it, assuming there is one, to see if it holds water.

He doesn't want to bring attention, again. Like, lol, "my opinion isn't relevant, so I'm not giving it" lolololol.

That's all.

If you don't want to read everything, read the last two quotes.
##Vote: Circumstance

At the moment, a circumstance lynch would be fine to me. But the wagon isn't gonna change, it's too late for that. The only two wagons here are LT and risk, and risk is was better of a lynch.

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