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On November 02 2014 14:59 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 14:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:I'm not being a prick. I don't find what you said about Damdred to be convincing at all and you're basing your scumread on me around the fact that I didn't agree with your ironclad case. He might have lied, or he might not have, but it's not important because these notes aren't going to be all that useful in the grand scheme of things, nor would not having these notes available to post for your convenience be indicative in any way. The thing is that I've actually dealt with a similar situation before: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465384-mission-mini-mafia?page=72#1428The guy who did the exact same thing Damdred did was actually a cop, but someone got so invested in the idea that he lied about having "notes" or what have you that he wound up getting lynched. I don't see what would have warranted Damdred being pressured or claiming because I didn't feel particularly strongly about the case then either. I have no idea why you're so mad at me. =/ Do you think if we lynch someone besides damdred today town can talk about someone besides damdred tomorrow? Who would you lynch today and talk about tomorrow?
I'm sorry.
What are you doing?
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On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes Someone asks to post notes He doesn't post notes People start to scum read him for no notes He extends time because of pressure?? We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes You say that's bad He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf.
Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle:
If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it?
What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing.
Can we talk about something else now?
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On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote: This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever.
I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless.
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On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes Someone asks to post notes He doesn't post notes People start to scum read him for no notes He extends time because of pressure?? We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes You say that's bad He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf. Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle: If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it? What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing. Can we talk about something else now? What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt). The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation.
But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so.
So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason.
@Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted.
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On November 02 2014 15:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:08 Holyflare wrote: This won't stop until you actually explain stuff btw. You haven't elaborated on any of your points whatsoever. I don't see what I haven't elaborated on. I've stated that I find the fact you're pushing really useless and you keep pressuring me in order to make me think it's not useless. No I'm pushing something multiple people agreed with and wondering why you were the only person to not agree with it and every response you leave just leaves more holes and question marks. Like there's quite literally no reason to say damd is a bad lynch unless you have a reason to not lynch him and his posts were town motivated. As it stands you have given NO town motivation to lie about reads and there is only scum motivation so you calling it bad is totally unjustified, scummy because it looks like tmi and worse now that you have "explained". We don't have to talk about it more because it's quite evident that you're mafia. Feel free to bring up a new useful subject to talk about though instead of complaining how boring this is and asking me to drop talking about it.
Except your case was bad and I'm allergic to lynching people for bad reasons unless I'm mafia.
So the second you realize your case is bad, you can unvote me and focus on scum.
Good day.
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On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes Someone asks to post notes He doesn't post notes People start to scum read him for no notes He extends time because of pressure?? We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes You say that's bad He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf. Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle: If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it? What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing. Can we talk about something else now? What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt). The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation. But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so. So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason. @Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted. then how about giving ur scum reads.
BH is one, maybe.
You might be another if you keep this up.
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On November 02 2014 15:31 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes Someone asks to post notes He doesn't post notes People start to scum read him for no notes He extends time because of pressure?? We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes You say that's bad He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf. Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle: If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it? What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing. Can we talk about something else now? What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt). The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation. But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so. So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason. @Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted. then how about giving ur scum reads. BH is one, maybe. You might be another if you keep this up. why is bh a scum read? and i'll keep this up cos i can talk to you directly.
Read my filter.
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On November 02 2014 15:37 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:28 liancourt wrote:On November 02 2014 15:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:20 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 15:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:02 Holyflare wrote: Like there's nothing convoluted about anything whatsoever.
Someone says they have notes Someone asks to post notes He doesn't post notes People start to scum read him for no notes He extends time because of pressure?? We make case saying this means he has no notes because he wouldn't be under pressure if he just copies the notes You say that's bad He posts notes after some time
Why on earth would he need to do that extension unless he was lying and buying time at that moment? There's literally nothing convoluted about this at all and many people agreed yet you somehow keep saying it means nothing whatsoever and that it's terribly far fetched and has no meaning. Like wtf. Okay, let's try to look at this from another angle: If he posted his notes within the allotted time he would've had without claiming/extending time, what made you think that he had to buy himself time and that he's scum because of it? What you are saying is a convoluted way of trying to prove someone's alignment and I don't think it's a strong case. It's a straightforward series of events but it ultimately proves nothing. Can we talk about something else now? What are you even saying. He didn't post notes that he said he had and then increased time because he thought he would get lynched. If he posted them in the alotted time he would be towny looking and avoid any discussion. I'm pretty sure he made up about having notes and then posted them afterwards and is too scared to admit it but his notes weren't actually that bad so I'm not that wary of him (although still a reasonable amount of doubt). The only motivation AT THAT TIME. Before he posted notes. Was scum motivation. But he posted the notes before the allotted time anyway, so it doesn't really matter either way since he had enough time to do so. So he just wasted his power and claimed for no reason. @Lian: It looks like you're limited my options to lynching Damdred. That's what I don't like about what you just posted. then how about giving ur scum reads. BH is one, maybe. You might be another if you keep this up. you're scum for the second part of that post
You've also called me scum for not having enough "townie indicative thoughts" and "shitposting," while not elaborating on what either of those things meant. Color me unimpressed when you continue to call me scum for bad reasons for the second game in a row.
If you want to elaborate and maybe start some kind of dialogue, then sure I'll talk to you.
This is FF1 all over again and nobody has bothered to try to learn from any of it. You're all still hysterically bad at reading me.
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On November 02 2014 15:44 Holyflare wrote: You cop checked someone who was already mafia so yeh if you say so. You're the one getting snippy saying we're bad.
Ye of no context.
I really wanted to play some video games but I had to stay here and defend myself. How annoying.
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On November 02 2014 15:50 Holyflare wrote: Your other developing scum read is lian who you already give an out to by saying "if he continues" to pressure you he's probably mafia. I don't even need to explain why that is terrible.
This is not why.
My issue is that lian is jumping on me when it's really convenient and forcing me into a lynch that I don't particularly support.
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I don't like the fact that you're writing my BH read off as if it doesn't exist.
He's calling me scum for bullshit nonreasons and I think that's scummy.
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On November 02 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote: I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads.
He didn't look like scum. What part of this are you not getting?
Stop saying that I'm not doing anything. I'm doing stuff right now and you're just blowing me off. It's infuriating.
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On November 02 2014 16:06 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 15:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 15:53 Holyflare wrote: I can't see how you're complaining that people can't read you when you've done absolutely nothing but defend someone who looked extremely like scum and you have no real scum reads. He didn't look like scum. What part of this are you not getting? Stop saying that I'm not doing anything. I'm doing stuff right now and you're just blowing me off. It's infuriating. If damd hadn't have extended this day you would have gone into n1 with a defence of someone out of the blue that looked scummy (your reasons for the defence make no sense and you even retroactively defended him by saying he posted his reads that's why he wasn't scummy even though we're talking about before he posted them) and having a scum read on bh which is factually incorrect and is contained in like 3 lines of 1 post. Oh also town reads on me and oats for really silly reasons. You think that's enough? 0 scum reads (you didn't even read bh's filter) and 2 mediocre town reads based on 1 post a few hours into the game??? Really?
All you've been doing is calling all of my reads bullshit since I started playing. If you try to personify my play into nothingness, then I guess that's just where you're going to end up.
I actually tried to come up with reads early so people would be able to gauge where I was coming from, but apparently someone thinks that I never come up with reads so talking to me is impossible.
@Lian: Sure. I guess. I looked back and I can see BH coming up with that stuff on his own. It's still mediocre, but maybe I'm biased.
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Okay, first order of business is going to sleep.
Second order of business is telling you that I'm not getting lynched and you're full of it etc etc.
Third is something. Probably a scumread. If I don't have one of those, maybe some atmosphere analysis. Idk.
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It's 2 AM in the States and the clock just turned back an hour. Lay off me.
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On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Man ok, first priority OWS, Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order then like bh
Care to explain why?
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On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Man ok, first priority OWS, Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order then like bh Care to explain why? Not really. Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"?
Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?"
Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning.
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On November 03 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2014 00:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 03 2014 00:19 Oatsmaster wrote:On November 02 2014 23:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote: Man ok, first priority OWS, Then risk.nuke/jrkirby in no particular order then like bh Care to explain why? Not really. Care to explain why your only defense is "Im town"? Care to explain why your only accusation is "not really?" Goes both ways, bro. I can't sort you if you don't give me reasoning. Read what holyflare said. Defend it properly.
I already did this. I fail to see what I haven't defended.
Is this supposed to be some kind of joke?
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