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Alakaslam
United States17336 Posts
Well 100 characters much easier. Anyway it is difficult for me to produce content as either alignment, until I have a theory I generally just drum up interest for myself. Damdred's reply dispels some suspicion. So what has Misder said recently, hmmmmm 🔢1⃣9⃣#⃣🔢8⃣9⃣🔠🔟8⃣#⃣🔠9⃣#⃣#⃣™™™™™™™™™™™™®© | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 08 2014 07:34 Damdred wrote: I've read the thread ty and know what you say about you get to pick the invention from a list. Here's the suspicions, 1) Lian claimed to get an invention I believe the day(? Need to check this) ve said he didn't invent. Loan, descended this later. VE promises to talk about him but won't yet this Is strange it feels a bit dodgy especially from VE 2) we have two claims same day one watches an odd selection one visits VE who just so happens to break patterns on inventions. 3) VE wants to lynch me based on Seuss wanting to but ignores Seuss main push before death was on VE. 4) VE isn't keeping up in the thread it looks like Lian typod he and put I instead, watchers probably contains a mafia especially as ray was supposed to catch up and then just copied a question i asked 3 pages before | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30774 Posts
On November 08 2014 08:02 Chairman Ray wrote: Sorry if this is a stupid question, but did it say anywhere how many mafia there are? I can't find it among the mod filters, but I assume 4 is a reasonable number. We speculated about this... Like not long ago | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
Dramdred He always seems to be someone people are suspicious of. But then it never really comes to an actually lynch. I found it weird that he was a big topic of discussion but he wasn't even a real lynch candidate compared to risk.nuke and LT. As I mentioned before I didn't like him egging on the spat between HF and VE. Also him randoming the negative vote seemed really scummy. The other possibility is he is just bad town. He seems to be a bit clueless in some aspects of how he should present him self. Unsure. Oats is someone who had a good day one as far as I'm concerned. Day 2 was weird him and risk.nuke were going at it a bit. Risk.nuke was convinced that Oats was scum. And Oats wanted to lynch risk.nuke just as much. When Misder was provided as an alternative to the risk.nuke lynch. Oats was strongly opposed to it. And currently in day 3 with all this role/set up talk Oats seems to be thriving but he doesnt seem to be adding much scum hunting. I think he should be a possible lynch candidate today. Misder is like the lurking 3p maybe? He almost got lynched with the shenagians on day 2. What's interesting to me. Is that after some votes were placed on him he started to start putting on content. But up till that point he had had a single post with mixed up reasoning on why he was placing a vote on risk.nuke and he seemed complacent in leaving his one post for his reasoning and waiting for the lynch to come around. In regards to his role as leeroy I had a couple comments on that. For the PM at least you have chicken. Still have chicken. IT MIGHT be a flavor thing (not leeroy's death quote) I was doing some research and also reading up on it. Useless role speculation yay + Show Spoiler + Apparently this wow player was doing a raid and everyone else died in his raid and he lived, possible 3p candidate @Misder Do you want us to try to lynch you again or would you prefer to provide content before that happens? Liancourt is someone that I don't even recall even looking at much. He is so forgettable and his filter is basically All one liners that don't seem to add much to the conversation. Day 1 I thought his questions were decent and he seemed interested in what was going on. But the problem is as the game has gone on the questions are comments seem to be the same. He doesn't make his own cases. I have never seen him have a disagreement with a player or a disagreement regarding reads. He just seems like sheep basically. And doesn't substantiate his own reads. Something to note here. While he displays alot of sheeping qualities he wasn't on LT's wagon. Now this could be irrelevant as when a wagon really gains speed mafia tend to jump in when they know it's a done deal but I thought it was worth mentioning. Very possible scum. Lie low, don't attract attention seems to be his MO. Very Possible scum. HF, Ritoky Our mod confirmed townies. What surprises me is that by now we don't have mod confirmed dead townies. I know that ritoky said he has a divine shield/ bulletproof vest and HF claimed PGO or whatever. But I don't recall Ritoky claiming a hit. Or Chairman Ray saying he was notified of saving HF. As we get closer to Lylo, Mylo whatever mafia need to kill off them. Or it makes it difficult for them to find mislynch targets. When we have 2 mod confirmed town. Whom are in very good standing with the town as well it makes it a mafia nightmare. With that being said If one of them doesn't die tonite I think we should reconsider them being "confirmed town" | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
And Chairman Ray if you missed it I previously claimed Jaraxxus and my day 2 power was a secondary lynch I had to lock in at night between me and someone of my choosing. I picked Obi wan shinobi who unfortunately turned out to be town. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
The PM basically said that my shot went through but I survived and that I've got a chicken. Honestly, I thought it was the way it was phrased (which I believe I can't actually copy and paste), though the more I think about it, the more I think the PM was just for flavor. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On November 08 2014 09:54 Misder wrote: Sorry - can't really figure out this game rn. The PM basically said that my shot went through but I survived and that I've got a chicken. Honestly, I thought it was the way it was phrased (which I believe I can't actually copy and paste), though the more I think about it, the more I think the PM was just for flavor. If this is true, I'm more inclined to believe that the chicken and surviving the shot are independent. You survived the shot somehow, and then the mod also told you that the homing chicken that VE gave you is still there. I have a couple theories as to what happened, but I'll wait until liancourt claims. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On November 08 2014 09:54 Misder wrote: Sorry - can't really figure out this game rn. The PM basically said that my shot went through but I survived and that I've got a chicken. Honestly, I thought it was the way it was phrased (which I believe I can't actually copy and paste), though the more I think about it, the more I think the PM was just for flavor. Respond to my speculation of you. Also you never claimed what the hell the chicken VE gave you. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On November 08 2014 09:47 jaybrundage wrote: I don't want to lynch Circumstance/Chairman Ray. He just got into the game. Circumstance was basically afk the whole game. While lurking is a scummy thing to do. I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a busy/uninterested townie. So saying that giving Chairman Ray a chance to come back in the game and contribute would be good. Dramdred He always seems to be someone people are suspicious of. But then it never really comes to an actually lynch. I found it weird that he was a big topic of discussion but he wasn't even a real lynch candidate compared to risk.nuke and LT. As I mentioned before I didn't like him egging on the spat between HF and VE. Also him randoming the negative vote seemed really scummy. The other possibility is he is just bad town. He seems to be a bit clueless in some aspects of how he should present him self. Unsure. Oats is someone who had a good day one as far as I'm concerned. Day 2 was weird him and risk.nuke were going at it a bit. Risk.nuke was convinced that Oats was scum. And Oats wanted to lynch risk.nuke just as much. When Misder was provided as an alternative to the risk.nuke lynch. Oats was strongly opposed to it. And currently in day 3 with all this role/set up talk Oats seems to be thriving but he doesnt seem to be adding much scum hunting. I think he should be a possible lynch candidate today. Liancourt is someone that I don't even recall even looking at much. He is so forgettable and his filter is basically All one liners that don't seem to add much to the conversation. Day 1 I thought his questions were decent and he seemed interested in what was going on. But the problem is as the game has gone on the questions are comments seem to be the same. He doesn't make his own cases. I have never seen him have a disagreement with a player or a disagreement regarding reads. He just seems like sheep basically. And doesn't substantiate his own reads. Something to note here. While he displays alot of sheeping qualities he wasn't on LT's wagon. Now this could be irrelevant as when a wagon really gains speed mafia tend to jump in when they know it's a done deal but I thought it was worth mentioning. Very possible scum. Lie low, don't attract attention seems to be his MO. Very Possible scum. Here are some questions and observations for you, Why give someone a free pass for entering the game, he says he is going to catch up and is filter diving people but hes not really scum hunting per se hes trying to figure out peoples powers and has a claim thats the same as slams on the same night but that does not even enter into your list post. Why do you ignore that fact? Why don't you pressure CR hes a good player in his own right to give reads? Why give him such an easy free pass. Your read on Oats is shoddy to say the least, your saying that because risk said oats was mafia we shoudl believe him? Oats was correct in saying that people should of stayed on risk.nuke he was a huge question mark, so was misder at the time as well, there really wasn't much scum hunting to do at the points where oats was talking since they were talking about different claims and trying to figure out what was the truth. Why does that make him scum and the lynch today? Lian hasn't done much of anything all game. What good questions did he ask d1? What do you think of him saying i'm his top scum read but 24 hours past day start he hasn't even mentioned me? I think your post on me is bad, I have been bad power wise but calling me bad town I think is wrong. I've at least tried to put cases forward and try to talk things, I pressured VE I did not eg on a fight ty very much. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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Damdred
15669 Posts
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On November 08 2014 12:02 Damdred wrote: Here are some questions and observations for you, Why give someone a free pass for entering the game, he says he is going to catch up and is filter diving people but hes not really scum hunting per se hes trying to figure out peoples powers and has a claim thats the same as slams on the same night but that does not even enter into your list post. Why do you ignore that fact? Why don't you pressure CR hes a good player in his own right to give reads? Why give him such an easy free pass. Your read on Oats is shoddy to say the least, your saying that because risk said oats was mafia we shoudl believe him? Oats was correct in saying that people should of stayed on risk.nuke he was a huge question mark, so was misder at the time as well, there really wasn't much scum hunting to do at the points where oats was talking since they were talking about different claims and trying to figure out what was the truth. Why does that make him scum and the lynch today? Lian hasn't done much of anything all game. What good questions did he ask d1? What do you think of him saying i'm his top scum read but 24 hours past day start he hasn't even mentioned me? I think your post on me is bad, I have been bad power wise but calling me bad town I think is wrong. I've at least tried to put cases forward and try to talk things, I pressured VE I did not eg on a fight ty very much. (Chairman Ray) Simple he just got into the game. To expect him to read the entire 150 ish pages of the thread and expect him to have insights into people's play when in contrast we have been here gradually absorbing it all over the course of the entire game is unrealistic and foolish. If we give him a chance to catch up and also be able to observe people in real time about 5 IRL days totally assuming he lives the night. Then hopefully he can meaningfully contribute. If he was mafia wouldn't his team give him a rundown of what happened and a good counter claim list. Also it could be true we do in fact have 2 town watchers. What would stop that from happening? I don't mind pressuring people. I just don't think he should be on the docket today. We have alot more info on alot of other lynch targets. Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. If Misder is scum and we had lynched him would you be giving me this same spiel, about how we should of killed town risk.nuke instead? (Rhetorical question) I suggested Oats as a possible lynch because he is someone I had a town read previously but who lately I feel may be scum. Sometimes scum aren't terrible to the point of being obvious. His play today consisting of roles/set up isn't terrible. It just isn't what I would expect from him. I would think he would follow it with some kind of conclusion and a push to lynch someone. (Lian) I recall thinking he seemed invested in the game day 1 and was asking questions. That hasn't been the case recently. I find it scummy as hell that he hasn't pushed you when your his top scum candidate. I also find it odd that he has never been mentioned before as possible scum. I think part of it was him just lying low all the time. Which as we go on is appearing more and more scummy. As we approach lylo we need people to be forward about there views. We can't have anyone just following the crowd just because cause it lets scum blend in. Dramdred alot of confirmed townies seemed to think you have been scummy. Maybe its not a conspiracy and you can improve your play if in fact you are town. | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On November 08 2014 12:42 jaybrundage wrote: Oats was incorrect in saying we should stay on risk.nuke. Because risk.nuke was town. As opposed to slam who theorized that me and risk were mafia together with LT, placed his vote early in the phase on risk, and just afk'd the phase away? Why are you so harsh on oats but not slam? | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
My first scumread is on Misder. What happened on night 2 was that he used his ability to kill someone, and another mafia had an ability that prevents the damage and used it on Misder. The first point of suspicion I have is that Misder announced his ability and target before the deadline. Despite all possibility of mafia having roleblocks, redirects, or anything else that can tamper with his ability, Misder was brave enough to tell everyone. There is literally nothing to be gained for town from announcing his ability at that time. However it makes sense if he's mafia and he knows he's not going to die, and he's itching to let town know what's supposed to happen with his ##leeroy jenkins. The second point of suspicion is his choice of target. He had a strong scumread on me, but a shaky townread on jrkirby. Yet he yoloed on jrkirby just because of a gut feeling. He didn't consult with anybody else whether or not this was a good kill. His power doesn't restrict him using it the second night. Any town with common sense should have waited another day. If he wanted to kill jrkirby, he should have waited until he had more than a "gut feeling". If he wanted to kill me, he should have waited until I delivered something. Either way, sacrificing himself on night 2 was not the way to go. The third point of suspicion is how his ability works. Everyone's claim so far, the abilities have been written kinda vaguely and doesn't really tell you everything. However for Misder's ability, it explicitly tells him that he can only do it once per game. The only reason why the hosts would explicitly say this rule is if there's something in the game that can prevent Misder from dying when the ability goes off. Nobody claimed to have performed anything like this yet. Plus there's no reason for a town to protect Misder over ritoky or HF. Therefore such an ability exists, and it has to belong to mafia. Lynch Misder today, and when he flips mafia, we look for people who have claimed to have no N2 ability, or their N2 ability is not verified. | ||
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