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Blazinghand
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On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check  So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1. Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2.
OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?
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On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate?
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H1 defended "oo"
H1 had been pushing liam day 1, then decided to just vote "oo" because "ill end up here"
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On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate?
+the oo wagon switch and his absence from conversations just to have no conclusion after and his pushing of damd despite almost none of his points showing a mafia mindset
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On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1. Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2. OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?
I pressured him at day start, so I'm assuming day 2. He said that Holyflare made up reasons to be on the OO lynch, thought that Holyflare was suspicious and didn't want to say anything in case OO flipped town, and then he said that Holyflare was town because he was too hard to read despite putting no effort into questioning him at all.
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On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1. Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2. OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2?
N1 but the majority of his reasons were day 1, i don't really think he scum read me i can't remember
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On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not.
I burnout. 500rwhp you know.
When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them.
Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT
but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces.
However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore.
Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable
Guess what
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On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not. I burnout. 500rwhp you know. When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them. Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces. However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore. Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable Guess what
so what you're basically saying is..."I'm bored no one thinks me as scum so I'm just gonna troll from now on"
Do you wanna be in my shoes bro?
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On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not. I burnout. 500rwhp you know. When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them. Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces. However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore. Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable Guess what
Yes well when you've been posting like you have people find it impossible to interact with you because you make it seemingly impossible to read any of your posts so people don't even want to start to interact with you further because they have to read text that says wtf to them. We are only humans with a limited patience to interact with things that don't follow the conventional norms of sentences and such. While some people find it fun, a lot of them do not. I don't want you banned and that isn't storrs intention either i am pretty sure he is just a little frustrated that you don't play conventionally.
I'll try and interact with you better at least if you try and answer me in a way i can understand properly.
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Blazinghand
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On October 11 2014 10:40 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? add H1 defended "oo" H1 had been pushing liam day 1, then decided to just vote "oo" because "ill end up here"
Yeah, H1's reason for voting OO is shit, as is his initial defense.
so here's my analysis of things
H1 comes in and defends OO http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23073759 , saying things like "
great post 10/10. Still don't think OO is scum though." and "Maybe you walk me through your thought process again as to why matyring to RNG is scummy?"
when he returns several hours later, he says "stop with the rng discussion" and "OO is a lurker lynch and an RNG lynch. Where the hell is batsnacks..fuck it" (in reference to hf saying batsnacks should stop him from policying)
and then he votes OO for shit reasons http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23075648
alright.... i'm convinced. I don't care about H1's weird d1 shit. the fact that he's #3 on the OO wagon makes him look townie, but honestly at the time he swapped over, OO hadn't posted yet. And... hmm. yeah, decent. ok, I don't like his D1 play. I don't see signs of a mafia mindset in it, but how he played is how I might expect a scum player to play, which is, try to derail the RnG, then hop on as an early vote (with the opportunity to hop off later). I don't think it's implausible he was just playing slow as a townie D1 though, and though he had shit reasons... he did jump on really early. long before it was clear OO got lynched. if I'm assuming that he's scum, I'm assuming that H1 played a real long game, and was thinking "after OO flips, I want to be an early wagon adopter". not implausible, but a difficult move and something only a truly skilled player like myself could pull off. He might have done it as scum. The fact that he didn't push the RNG lynch too hard after he got on the wagon is a bit damning, though.
I consider H1 to be lynchable for it. But not today. Not with OWS literally blatantly trying to save OO.
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I was never trying to save OO. Stop being such a jubjub.
I explained it a bajillion times and you're just not listening.
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On October 11 2014 10:49 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not. I burnout. 500rwhp you know. When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them. Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces. However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore. Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable Guess what Yes well when you've been posting like you have people find it impossible to interact with you because you make it seemingly impossible to read any of your posts so people don't even want to start to interact with you further because they have to read text that says wtf to them. We are only humans with a limited patience to interact with things that don't follow the conventional norms of sentences and such. While some people find it fun, a lot of them do not. I don't want you banned and that isn't storrs intention either i am pretty sure he is just a little frustrated that you don't play conventionally. I'll try and interact with you better at least if you try and answer me in a way i can understand properly.
i just want to fucking understand............and for him to push do something productive
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Blazinghand
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On October 11 2014 10:43 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:40 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 10:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 11 2014 10:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 11 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 00:57 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 11 2014 00:54 Holyflare wrote:
Because you more than conveniently don't explain anything about like 90% of your reads and you have these 2 scum reads but nothing about them ever changes so reading these other people looks really odd from you when you don't say anything about why they're town over damd/lian being scum. It's really really strange that you have 2 scum reads but wpuld rather arbitrarily call other people town instead of pushing them I'm going through the game and making certain that those two are in fact the scummiest players to me before I go about pushing a lynch on anyone. Does that not make sense? Should I just RNG a new target and push them incessantly instead of reading the game? This post Mod 12, storr is 0 Your whole game is throwing out random town reads that don't make sense and don't line up with any thought process. What really blew it for you was calling me town so conveniently based on those points you listed. I've been saying scum is very likely to bus OO because that's what he asked to do last game he was mafia and cba to play, however as you pointed out, my reason before that was "made up" therefore to you all I've done is randomly defend your scum read, pushed a flipped town and lie about a reason so that people hop on a mafia wagon. All those things are very likely for me to do as mafia. Very very likely. Yet they are super weird for anyone to town read me on. These are pretty much your only elaborated reads in the entire game too, the rest of your never lynch list isn't explained at all. All of these town reads aren't explained. Yojr scum reads aren't explained and haven't changed. And my red check So the case on H1 is 1. H1 doesn't explain anything about 90% of his reads. he has many "these people are odd" reads. 2. H1 reads damd and lian as being scum, and instead of pushing them, townreads a bunch of other people. 3. The townreads he throws up are nonsensical and don't come from any reason 4. HF acted scummy and H1 townread HF for it is this accurate? The case on h1 is that he made up reasons to townread Holyflare after thinking he was scummy for all of day 1. Read everything that I said about him at the start of day 2. OK, so a nonsensical townread on HF. just out of curiosity, did this townread begin during N1 or D2? N1 but the majority of his reasons were day 1, i don't really think he scum read me i can't remember
so it wouldn't be in response to mafia shooting you, discovering your'e vet (or had medic protection) and him trying to buddy you pre-claim or something
in any case, my conclusion is that the h1 lynch is not an awful lynch. I suspect it has a 40%+ chance to flip scum. However, it's not even closer to the OWS lynch which is like 80%+ chance to flip scum, so I will not be changing.
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Blazinghand
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On October 11 2014 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I was never trying to save OO. Stop being such a jubjub.
I explained it a bajillion times and you're just not listening.
Sure, you weren't trying to save OO, just 'jokingly' lynch someone who wasn't OO... thereby saving OO.
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Also, if you want to argue about saving OO, hopeless actually tried to do this as well.
Read Damdred's post on how hopeless was interacting with people before he moved his vote.
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If hopeless flips town we can shoot obi just for you
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I will lie down and get lynched/shot if hopeless doesn't flip scum.
That's how confident I am.
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On October 11 2014 10:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, if you want to argue about saving OO, hopeless actually tried to do this as well.
Read Damdred's post on how hopeless was interacting with people before he moved his vote.
Yeah, read my analysis of H1. he too is scummy. Not like you, he didn't put a super serious effort into it, and he got onto the wagon way early, which is less scummy. Though I just realized, it's possible he was planning to jump off, then circumstances made it impossible. So that's another way his actions would make sense for scum. In any case, OWS, you die first.
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On October 11 2014 10:51 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I was never trying to save OO. Stop being such a jubjub.
I explained it a bajillion times and you're just not listening. Sure, you weren't trying to save OO, just 'jokingly' lynch someone who wasn't OO... thereby saving OO.
annnnd if you had been in the last game, this whole joke, is actually funny and painful at the same time.
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On October 11 2014 10:53 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Also, if you want to argue about saving OO, hopeless actually tried to do this as well.
Read Damdred's post on how hopeless was interacting with people before he moved his vote. Yeah, read my analysis of H1. he too is scummy. Not like you, he didn't put a super serious effort into it, and he got onto the wagon way early, which is less scummy. Though I just realized, it's possible he was planning to jump off, then circumstances made it impossible. So that's another way his actions would make sense for scum. In any case, OWS, you die first.
You're really bad at this game.
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