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The_Templar
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September 03 2014 19:27 GMT
#610
I usually don't anticipate/dread a deadline post as much as I am now. Can we please not vote Micc considering he's useless?
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September 03 2014 19:29 GMT
#613
On September 04 2014 04:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:28 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:25 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
3d called a bunch of people scum for wanting to plynch, and then hops on a plynch bandwagon.

lool


On September 04 2014 03:53 3d12 wrote:
All in all, I don't like the idea of a plynch. However, I less like the idea of scum lurking the thread and hopping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the time. Let's change that.

##Vote: Micchan


You seemed to jump on this bandwagon easily, and now you're on the batwagon? What's your motivation, then? I posted mine.

read his filter, primarily due because of batsnacks' stupid first post


Exactly, he's still bandwagoning on bat for a 0% reason except "this might be a mission." I'll grant that's a valid reason, but I just can't see bat being mafia at this stage. His contributions are far too helpful.


Are you reading the thread?

Apparently he isn't
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The_Templar
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September 03 2014 19:29 GMT
#615
dammit I guess we're lynching Micchan
-.-
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September 03 2014 19:31 GMT
#618
On September 04 2014 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On September 04 2014 04:29 The_Templar wrote:
dammit I guess we're lynching Micchan
-.-


Can't say it's a bad lynch though. Does nothing and dies. Not a problem.

Oh well.

Not a particularly great lynch either, we'd usually be getting him later anyways.
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September 03 2014 19:32 GMT
#621
.......
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September 03 2014 19:32 GMT
#625
On September 04 2014 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On September 04 2014 04:31 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:29 The_Templar wrote:
dammit I guess we're lynching Micchan
-.-


Can't say it's a bad lynch though. Does nothing and dies. Not a problem.

Oh well.

Not a particularly great lynch either, we'd usually be getting him later anyways.


See, now that we've said this, he's probably going to flip scum and make both of us look like idiots.

lol nope
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September 03 2014 19:33 GMT
#627
god damn it. It's always the idiots that get blue roles when I'm town. This happens 100% of the time in live mafia too TT
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September 03 2014 19:36 GMT
#635
On September 04 2014 04:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Well, some people did.

But it really disgusts me how many people went afk and didn't give a shit. I think you guys get what I mean.

A grand total of 3 people here for EOD. Sickening.
I didn't even realize there were going to be blue roles this game.
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September 03 2014 19:41 GMT
#640
On September 04 2014 04:38 3d12 wrote:
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On September 04 2014 04:33 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:28 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:25 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
3d called a bunch of people scum for wanting to plynch, and then hops on a plynch bandwagon.

lool


On September 04 2014 03:53 3d12 wrote:
All in all, I don't like the idea of a plynch. However, I less like the idea of scum lurking the thread and hopping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the time. Let's change that.

##Vote: Micchan


You seemed to jump on this bandwagon easily, and now you're on the batwagon? What's your motivation, then? I posted mine.

read his filter, primarily due because of batsnacks' stupid first post


Exactly, he's still bandwagoning on bat for a 0% reason except "this might be a mission." I'll grant that's a valid reason, but I just can't see bat being mafia at this stage. His contributions are far too helpful.


What has he contributed that has been helpful?


Specifically? The kita wagon. Even though I believe it's false, bat is being concise in constructing a case based on things that are not obvious. Everyone else is chasing the obvious lynch, but bat is thinking outside the box.

Besides, if he were mafia, why would he go out of his way to start a wagon against a second party? You would think that would make you stick out more than blend in, which it did.

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On September 04 2014 04:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:32 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:28 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:26 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:25 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:21 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
3d called a bunch of people scum for wanting to plynch, and then hops on a plynch bandwagon.

lool


On September 04 2014 03:53 3d12 wrote:
All in all, I don't like the idea of a plynch. However, I less like the idea of scum lurking the thread and hopping on whatever bandwagon is hot at the time. Let's change that.

##Vote: Micchan


You seemed to jump on this bandwagon easily, and now you're on the batwagon? What's your motivation, then? I posted mine.

read his filter, primarily due because of batsnacks' stupid first post


Exactly, he's still bandwagoning on bat for a 0% reason except "this might be a mission." I'll grant that's a valid reason, but I just can't see bat being mafia at this stage. His contributions are far too helpful.


Are you reading the thread?


Which one, this one or Storm? Because it seems like you're pulling your reads on bat from the latter.

Please do point out where you've built a constructive case surrounding this thread, though.


Please shut up.


That doesn't sound very town of you... You don't like hearing what I have to say?

Besides the three people not counting you that were here for EOD.
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September 03 2014 19:42 GMT
#642
On September 04 2014 04:42 3d12 wrote:
Oh shit, I didn't get what everyone was talking about at first. The day-end post is at the bottom of page 31, for anyone else who missed it.

This sucks. I guess we can hold out hope for more blue roles, but at this point the thread is going so far off the rails that I don't even know how much that would help.

I wish we knew how many scum there were, anyway. Everyone's saying 6 scumreads from me seems too high, but I'm personally a bit more suspicious that you guys don't suspect many people. How many scum do you think there are? I'm betting at least 4.

Since there are 13 players, there are almost certainly 3 scum. Have you ever played mafia before out of curiousity?
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September 03 2014 19:43 GMT
#643
On September 04 2014 04:42 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:42 3d12 wrote:
Oh shit, I didn't get what everyone was talking about at first. The day-end post is at the bottom of page 31, for anyone else who missed it.

This sucks. I guess we can hold out hope for more blue roles, but at this point the thread is going so far off the rails that I don't even know how much that would help.

I wish we knew how many scum there were, anyway. Everyone's saying 6 scumreads from me seems too high, but I'm personally a bit more suspicious that you guys don't suspect many people. How many scum do you think there are? I'm betting at least 4.

Since there are 13 players, there are almost certainly 3 scum. Have you ever played mafia before out of curiousity?

By "played mafia" I mean not necessarily on TL
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September 03 2014 19:46 GMT
#645
On September 04 2014 04:45 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:42 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 04:42 3d12 wrote:
Oh shit, I didn't get what everyone was talking about at first. The day-end post is at the bottom of page 31, for anyone else who missed it.

This sucks. I guess we can hold out hope for more blue roles, but at this point the thread is going so far off the rails that I don't even know how much that would help.

I wish we knew how many scum there were, anyway. Everyone's saying 6 scumreads from me seems too high, but I'm personally a bit more suspicious that you guys don't suspect many people. How many scum do you think there are? I'm betting at least 4.

Since there are 13 players, there are almost certainly 3 scum. Have you ever played mafia before out of curiousity?


A few times, yeah. Mostly back in high school, it was a pretty popular game to play in band while setting up the stages.

So you guys play with a fixed number of mafia? We always played randomized, as long as it was less than half the total players. Though granted, not many people like D1 LYLO.

I once won a D1 LYLO with 7 town and 6 mafia in the sc2 mod, without anyone screwing up or leaving. It was really really weird O.o
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The_Templar
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September 03 2014 19:47 GMT
#647
On September 04 2014 04:46 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Well I'm guessing if there is a doctor blue role, I'm sure there's a couple other blue roles.

IS it too late to change my read back to scum on 3d?

Like, that was bad. just bad.

There's not more than 2 blues total I think. Will check to see if that is possible.
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The_Templar
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September 04 2014 03:26 GMT
#728
Sorry I'm not posting much in this thread right now, realized that I had a bridge game at the last second and I have classes early tomorrow. Will post a bit tomorrow morning and tomorrow afternoon before day.

On September 04 2014 10:47 Vivax wrote:
templar's case on me is awfully bad. He also brings disorder into the timeline of some of my posts.

For example something about me saying bsbsbs, then saying bsbsbs, while one of the posts was after I said something else yet he kinda displays it as if one came after the other while the order wasn't in that chronology.

I'm on the fence with him however, might be misguided townie but then I also see other stuff like:

"My meta is to do this every game and Vivax pushes me for it".

1. How am I supposed to know I never played with him.
2. From what I've gained from others he always rolled scum so why is it wrong to bring it up since apparently it's his scumm meta.

Lol. Literally two of the posts are out of order and they're a few minutes apart, and about the same thing. The rest of that post, if you actually bothered to read any of it, is by topic, followed by the order in which the related posts came in.

Newbies don't have a meta in general, and I happened to start doing these "one long post near the beginning of the game" posts before I knew what I was doing.
Yeah you probably didn't buy TL+ and look for my first game, but you can't seriously think I'm red for doing some things the same way…?

Since I made that post you've been making similarly trending posts.

On September 03 2014 22:15 Vivax wrote:
Ima take a nap now so just in case I sleep through til deadline by mistake I'm gonna put a placeholder vote on the "low hanging fruit", cause after all it's never a bad option for a D1 lynch.

##Vote: Micchan

I like what kitaman has to say about nb.

Oh you're going to take a nap so you have an excuse to be lazy. Excellent.

On September 04 2014 07:55 Vivax wrote:
Kush are you scum this game? I'm increasingly feeling like that's the case.

You gonna post activity graphs soon?

Why why why why whywhywhywhy is he red? explain pls

Seriously, you moved from being friendly with him to putting him on your red list "for not being super townie" to having "an increasing feeling" about him being red.

On September 04 2014 08:01 Vivax wrote:
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On September 04 2014 07:57 kushm4sta wrote:
vivax i did some shit before eod


Not enough bro.
I'm afraid I will have to get you lynched

"I'm afraid I will have to get the town to lynch you". Are you normally trying to control the game? It's not working. You've done this sort of thing already.

On September 04 2014 08:33 Vivax wrote:
Bats bats bats.

His first post, I regret not putting more weight into it initially.
Anyway I googled that shit and it's from some I ching or book of changes.
So basically this guy, for no apparent reason decides to quote some pages from a book of some religion or fuck knows what.

His later play is super serious.
I've read a little of bats in cell mini where he got mislynched, and well.. He started trolly, and he stayed trolly.

Here he starts trolly, and then goes tryhard. No explanation for his first post yet.

So maybe it was his mission to post that stuff and instead of slowly working his way up to a reason to post it, he just decided to jump into the cold water by posting it first and seeing what would happen.

All this stuff is a bit tinfoil I know, but... ONE explanation is better than none, and it doesn't sit right with me that it got skipped over so easily (which was also my fault). If bats was town, mafia would have tried to capitalize on it at some point, probably.

Taking full town responsibility for not taking care of batsnacks. Ok… so based on that last point, batsnacks is red to you? Or white since some people voted and then unvoted him?

On September 04 2014 11:24 Vivax wrote:
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On September 04 2014 11:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On September 04 2014 11:07 Vivax wrote:
Yeah Obi is town


Am curious as to why you think this, to sate my own ego if nothing else.


Cause as mafia you don't give a single fuck about the game and give off an aura of disinterestedness and you just went and double checked what Oats wrote.

That is the single most thin reason I have ever seen.
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The_Templar
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September 04 2014 03:35 GMT
#730
On September 04 2014 12:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Templar, Vivax can base his reads off of meta because he has tons of first hand experience of playing with both of us.

They look like shitty reasons to you because we've never played together.

Can anyone else confirm this?
(I'm off to bed)
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September 04 2014 13:04 GMT
#764
On September 04 2014 12:38 Vivax wrote:
Templar feels like very tunnel visioned to me.
However he has 6 pages of filter so far so I don't feel like he's one of the guys I would lynch any time soon.

I would be interested into knowing what his other options are however.

you mean besides batsnacks who I proposed as an alternate wagon at EOD?
3d12 is also looking very strange to me (surprise)
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September 04 2014 13:05 GMT
#765
On September 04 2014 21:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually I'm curious. How is asking for reads scummy?

3d, have you played forum mafia before (you might have answered this before, but I'm lazy and don't want to search)

he said he played live mafia a few times, didn't say anything about forum mafia (he didn't know # of mafia) so I guess… no?
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September 04 2014 15:15 GMT
#770
On September 04 2014 23:21 Oatsmaster wrote:
I was talking about this when I said overexplained votes

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On September 04 2014 02:56 mderg wrote:
I think the Micchan lynch is our best option right now. Yes, he's an easy target but there's a reason for that. His play didn't really look townie.

##vote: Micchan


batsnacks, is it really that scummy to go after easy targets? You brought this up against bot poofter and kitaman. I don't think going after easy targets is inherently a scummy thing to do. After all they are easy targets because something about them is scummy.

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On September 04 2014 03:04 Damdred wrote:
##Vote:Micchan

Theres a few things that have led me to this vote. The first being in the way that his posts have gone about. He casually threw more accusations at 3d when pressure on him was the highest. He complained about the thread but never tried to fix it, gave excuses why he did not post yesterday and never posted again. All he has done is lurk, and while lurking is not scummy his play and posts look and feel scummy to me. A couple games ago I got into a situation that was similar in arnie and I let GB slide doing somewhat the same things and I don't want to make that mistake again by letting someone go whos to scummy to be scum.


yeah im lynching damdred tmr.

I can get behind that. For people of any experience level, there shouldn't be too much of a reason to lynch someone that isn't doing anything because it's a policy lynch. They are trying to be defensive.
I will look at Damdred's posting pattern more closely around the end of night (I'll try to be before the end of night in case I die).
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September 04 2014 15:42 GMT
#774
On September 05 2014 00:18 3d12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 21:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually I'm curious. How is asking for reads scummy?

3d, have you played forum mafia before (you might have answered this before, but I'm lazy and don't want to search)


I did answer this, and Templar is correct. I've never played forum mafia, only RL and that was about 4-5 years ago now. Is there really that much of a disparity in the meta between the two?

live mafia = flailing around and yelling
forum mafia = lynching people that flail around and yell
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September 04 2014 16:40 GMT
#780
On September 05 2014 01:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 05 2014 00:29 3d12 wrote:
On September 04 2014 22:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On September 04 2014 22:05 The_Templar wrote:
On September 04 2014 21:59 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Actually I'm curious. How is asking for reads scummy?

3d, have you played forum mafia before (you might have answered this before, but I'm lazy and don't want to search)

he said he played live mafia a few times, didn't say anything about forum mafia (he didn't know # of mafia) so I guess… no?


Then that leads me to this question: did those who asked for other people's reads always turn out scum?



Always? No. And no, asking for reads is not inherently scummy. I find the "explain why you find this important" behavior pretty scummy for D1, considering there's generally very little to find important before the first lynch. Again, this may be a difference in meta, but typically nobody's opinion is worth asking about on D1 and most people who do ask for opinions at that stage are too wrapped up in their mafia mindset to come up with an opinion of their own. This obviously wasn't the case with you, as you showed later on, but it did make me suspicious when my first posted impression of bat was taken to mean a true town read by a lot of people.

Does this sound like a newbie writing it to anyone else?


No... It really doesn't -.-
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