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On September 01 2014 06:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2014 06:42 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Simba.... Wtf.... I thought what we had was special....
Also, because Marv was playing like Marv plays in his town games. Marv has really good reads in his town games. Therefore, sheepable marv.
I thought we went over this HF? Like i already admitted to sheeping ritoky, and didn't vote bats who happened to be town. The reason i give apathy points is becasue if he was mafia, i think it would be easier for him to just vote for ojou-sama (bunnies) and make a case against her. I'll admit to not knowing how to read lilwade, as i don't recall ever playing with him and he hasnt posted stuff. not afraid to admit to sheeping someones reads on him. I think ojou-sama is scummy so i'm voting for her..
I don't understand this thought process at all.
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On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response
Or this one.
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Oh wait I think I was just misreading it.
Thought he was referring to batsnacks for some reason
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On September 01 2014 13:00 Amiko wrote:
The point isn't that he voted in one place and not the other, it's that everyone in his cell is voting (or trying to vote) for bunnies, so obviously at least one mafia is voting or trying to vote for bunnies.
This doesn't give any indication that it's voting town or mafia but was considering it since when we were talking about d2 earlier it wasn't the case (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=65#1281)
Why is this relevant?
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On September 01 2014 08:25 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I gave town points for Apathy voting on lilwade instead of bunnies, but do you think lilwade is an easier mislynch? In a sense there is still 24 hours to go, if he pushes on bunnies who will post for sure, or does he deflect onto lilwade, since he hasn't posted anything?
This really just looks like you're trying to fit the scenario to your narrative of what you assume scum would do (always vote the easier mislynch). Not sure why you assume that to be true.
I have, however, appreciated the fact that you've actually started playing the game, as not-great as it's been.
I dunno....too nooby to be scum has burnt me a few times before, and the alternative means it's HF in our group which would be a real pain in my ass.
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On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe?
Wanted to post this but couldnt
Gg marv
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Oh sweet Christ the list of people still voting bunnies ugh.
Also the fact that she apparently just got back and is going to post even though it doesn't seem as though she's getting lynched anymore is interesting.
I'm around now and am going to do some reading.
##unvote
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This is way too convenient
Where was this bunnies for the rest of the game
Toad you're not allowed to be scum
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On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose
Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality.
I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative.
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On September 02 2014 02:14 Professor Apathy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:08 marvellosity wrote:On September 02 2014 02:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:Now to PA His filter is a bit longer. 6 pages to be exact. I commend you for your activity. Some things I have a problem with, why did he want our group to go last? He makes jokes about it, says it's because he creates a shitstorm and needs more time to defend himself (you can find that post here- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463542-cell-mini-mafia-iii?page=15#286) but it actually seemed like he's been doing completely opposite this game. Townie points? I also want to know if the below is where he stands still On August 29 2014 07:50 Professor Apathy wrote:On August 29 2014 07:47 marvellosity wrote:
BH/HF/your mum/Amiko/lilwade best guess so far.
just so people can quiz me in a really annoying fashion later if/when i change my mind. I kind of agree A) BH B) Holy C) idk D) probably your mum but that's a gut read E) ninjabunnies As of now, reading through PA's filter, he seems the most town. He's active, questioning, and looking to try and figure out the game. The only thing that throws me off is how active he was about being mayor, and wanting our group to go last. Idc that he wanted us to go last, but his reasoning that "he would need more time to defend himself" is super scummy. I'm not going to vote yet, because I do want to hear responses to these thoughts
why? given what you've said, your vote should be on lilwade. the reasoning wasn't "I need more time to defend myself". The reason was "I tend to ragequit when I'm annoyed and can get away with it. If I'm in last Cell I can't get away with it". group A: I still think BH was mafia (now that I know bats wasn't) group B: I don't think Holy is mafia. Not as certain on his towniness as on WoS but I would have pushed Holy had I thought he's mafia to make sure noone listens to him group C: I'm actually still not sure about for various reasons I don't feel like going into group D: damdred looks somewhat okay. Yeah I'd probably still go for your mum group E: I'm obviously voting lilwade right now @Marv/WoS Show nested quote +On August 28 2014 07:03 Professor Apathy wrote:
Fear not for I am town an will murder all of mafia.
Vote me and I will organize the groups in such a way that hilarity and entertainement will be guaranteed!
##vote Professor Apathy for mighty powers
Yeah I have no actual problems with you. It's just ever since HF in Cultured I have larger internal problems with 'well if you're scum and have played like this then gg.'
And bunnies does have a point re: group C but as long as you give us the read/stuff before the day is out that's fine.
People (such as Damdred) seem to be feeling better about bunnies right now because she did some posting yesterday and is doing some now, but I'm feeling a little deja vu---this day has turned out a hell of a lot like D1. The couple things that are slightly different are the fact that bunnies actually made a little effort to try before the final hours of the day thus far, and actually posted some content (albeit terrible content) earlier on in the day whereas BH basically did nothing until the last few hours and was able to skate by (I'm still going to assume he was scum btw because it makes the most sense).
Anyway, does a scum bunnies mostly emulate her (probable) teammate in terms of playstyle/afkness/content and assume she will get away with it in the same manner? Like...they even both make a big deal about the reasons they're afk constantly.
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On September 02 2014 02:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 02 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote:it does? how come babe? because once you get modkilled from a game (and i know he was around and still got modkilled from newbie) you can focus on the other one. He's not posted any reason to afk, he just comes back in to settle the people against him with a vote and back to lurking again. I'd expect if he was town he'd just be like "sorry i was mafia in another game and more interested in winning there" and then post some kind of basic analysis or anything or say he's reading but the maintained lurk while present means he's literally just avoiding posting on purpose Sometimes I find that there is a massive disconnect with you between what you expect people to do and what actually happens in reality. I honestly don't really think I can come up with any particular narrative that makes sense to me realistically---half the time when people lurk and/or don't play the game it's for no particular reason at all and based on his earlier posting I feel like this is most likely the case. Non-alignment indicative. i really don't think so... let's say he's mafia in both games, in one game he puts all his effort into it but he lurks/posts some analysis because hes invested in that one but he clearly hasn't read this one at all so only comes back to appease people with nothingness and a vote to not get modkilled he is quite literally (and I know this for a fact) present a lot of the time but not posting here at all and didn't post in the newbie despite being here. Who does that? Mafia does that because they want to hide and not do anything. Now let's say he's town here and invested in one game as mafia but not the town one, why would he be present but still hiding? Why would he not just post anything about being busy or invested in the other game? Why hide everything and just return to stop yourself getting modkilled when your name is called out? He's dead in that game so at least he has no reason to hide here at all?
I'm almost certain I've seen one of gumshoe/Onegu do this and not be scum. No proof but whatever.
Your out-of-game methods for scumcatching are ridiculously out of hand lately and not based on reality.
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On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell.
I was not mentioned in this post at all. That's really fucking weird considering you mention literally everyone else in the game at some point.
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Actually, vote back on bunnies.
##vote: 27ninjabunnies
She's afraid of me.
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On September 02 2014 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell. I was not mentioned in this post at all. That's really fucking weird considering you mention literally everyone else in the game at some point. You weren't mentioned cause I mentioned the other two in your cell whom I have better reads on. You are pretty townie WOS, asking questions, trying to figure out the game. I actually remember you had an argument with someone, did you not? I figured me leaving you out implied I thought you were town.
Of course that's what is implied, but that doesn't stop you from mentioning Toad or every other person in the game. By leaving my name out personally I think you tried to avoid that personal touch that everyone gets when reading their name in a game. Considering I started in on you right off the gate and until recently was one of the only non-sketchy people voting for you, I think it was done on purpose for that reason.
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On September 02 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote:
i dunno there's something about cell which kinda just makes playing it boring
The narrow focus kinda sucks a bit
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On September 02 2014 02:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 02:38 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 02 2014 02:29 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 02 2014 02:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:On September 02 2014 02:16 Damdred wrote:
Well bunnies you have given your read on your cell, which they actually look pretty good and I wish you would of been here day one like this would of made things easier probably. Could you glance at the next cell and start leaving your thoughts ? Sure, I'll actually do that for the rest of the cells. A- I think this cell was BH E- Lilwade- he's not participating, leaves random comments. Idk. PA has a better tr and I'm town, so POE. D- For this cell, IDK tbh. I don't really remember either YM or NRHF. I remember you though. Your first post was pretty godly. B- HF questioning of me is super weird. But MM1 has been leaving ridiculous posts too. Late voting, ritoky sheeping, then his "I have a gut read on bunnies but screw it, let's vote off Lilwade" post was super super scummy. Then again, MM gets mislynched quite often, but he would be my number 1, followed by HF. C- I already said I have a tr on Marv. People think he's been scummy by people I mean HF, but I guess I just have a different read than HF does. I really like Amiko, too. His questioning this game has been fantastic! So I'd go for Oats in this cell. I was not mentioned in this post at all. That's really fucking weird considering you mention literally everyone else in the game at some point. You weren't mentioned cause I mentioned the other two in your cell whom I have better reads on. You are pretty townie WOS, asking questions, trying to figure out the game. I actually remember you had an argument with someone, did you not? I figured me leaving you out implied I thought you were town. Of course that's what is implied, but that doesn't stop you from mentioning Toad or every other person in the game. By leaving my name out personally I think you tried to avoid that personal touch that everyone gets when reading their name in a game. Considering I started in on you right off the gate and until recently was one of the only non-sketchy people voting for you, I think it was done on purpose for that reason. You are an idiot. I mention Toad because he is in my cell. I was giving reads. So I mention everyone else but you? Who cares? I have nothing against you and was just giving out reads on other cells. The town read on you was implied in not mentioning you. Personal touch? The only way I wouldn't mention you in a read is if we were mafia partners together, and I wanted to get suspiscion off of you, but that's not the case here because I am town, and I thought you were town. It's not like I consciously did it.
You also mention other townreads quite freely.
ehhh.
The bolded actually seems most likely.
SO many people dumping votes on lil wayne though
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Where is fake holyflare?
His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this?
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On September 02 2014 03:25 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 03:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Where is fake holyflare?
His totality of D2 posting has been absolutely horrible, mostly basing his apparent current dump vote on bunnies on weird meta shit. Did no one else pick up on this?
yes but he isn't being voted on today
Well now you guys have got me thinking about who is voting for whom and when, and I absolutely hate NRHF's vote and the circumstances behind it. But I also remember not minding the wagon on bunnies when it initially started and I think he was on it then too.
I think the fact that bunnies came back and was giving reads/answering questions freely without being asked despite the fact that she was essentially off the hook may clinch it for me. That one is also unlike the D1/BH.
##unvote
##vote: lilwade
I have another 45 min or so then it's only phoneposting if at all until usual time.
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On September 02 2014 03:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On September 02 2014 03:26 Holyflare wrote:
the thing that bugs me the most is that mysterymeat was super hesitant to vote bunnies despite scum reading her but then went so easily to wade based on nothing??? That honestly bugs me too. I pointed it out earlier. It makes me wonder if he is trying to get a mislynch just on anyone?
But how does this make sense if Toad is basically off the table?
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On September 02 2014 07:10 Not really holyflare wrote:
Alright, I'm not going to switch my vote. Ever.
Was going to say something similar to this.
Really did turn out exactly like D1.
Again seems like today comes down to two people who don't look particularly good with one doing shit tons less than the other.
##vote: your mom
I hope my mom won't be mad at me for this
lol marv for a guy who couldn't wait all day to vote this guy I'm surprised you didn't jump on that.
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