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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 00:23 GMT
#1661
On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town


no no no no no no no no no no no EVERYONE was on bunnies when you posted this slip.... wade hadn't flipped town yet THERE WAS NO POSSIBLE WAY TO KNOW THAT BUNNIES WAS MAFIA AT THIS POINT
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 03 2014 00:28 GMT
#1662
Also who the fuck started this 'I'm good at reading marv' thing?
Ask marv himself how good I am at reading him.

Also I forgot to bold this when posting @MM1

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town

lol HF you just got fucking told
The only issue I have with HF scum right now is if he is, for him to have been fairly conclusively caught by MM1 and everyone else waffling all over the place is unlikely (no offense). HF is one of if not THE best scum on TL right now, and he's not Hapa to get caught by shitlogic/shitcases. His play is still wrong but I have no clue why.

As for you, MM1, how come the bolded logic doesn't apply to me or to the bunch of other people who started out voting bunnies/BH and then switched to the alternatives? Looks more like you've already decided HF is scum and are applying tidbits you find posthumously.


HF why are you so absolutely convinced it's a slip and not your alternative 'MM1 isn't allowed to post this retroactively' case?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 00:33 GMT
#1663
There's no possible way that town mysterymeat scum reads 27ninjabunnies but then when holyflare comes along and starts questioning ninjabunnies he says "oh you're pressuring my scum read a lot you are probably scum in my cell! that's super weird of you!"

WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 03 2014 00:34 GMT
#1664
On September 03 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:
There's no possible way that town mysterymeat scum reads 27ninjabunnies but then when holyflare comes along and starts questioning ninjabunnies he says "oh you're pressuring my scum read a lot you are probably scum in my cell! that's super weird of you!"


Is that the actual turn of events? Or is there some contextual shit you're conveniently ignoring?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 03 2014 00:37 GMT
#1665
On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.

Ok here's the post?
I guess if you take the first sentence and ignore mindset then yes, you're right.
Except he also says it's because you've been calling him scum since the beginning of the game (which you were...though I think I was too lol), and there's that 'noob omgus' aura that MM1 seems to exude (though I don't and can't take that into account).

Fuck I actually though my cell was gonna be hard because I was going to have to scream and yell at HF

Let's go, input from other people on this. I don't think I have any idea who anyone else thinks is scum from our group. Even Toad's final reads post didn't conclusively finger anyone (though he put HF as lowest I think)?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 00:57 GMT
#1666
On September 01 2014 05:20 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I think i'd probably go for bunnies as the mafia in this situation. I think professor apathy is town for voting on lil wade, and i'm not sure on how to read lilwade, but from the games that i've played with bunnies her play as town has definitely been different. If bunnies does flip mafia, then the chance that ritoky was scum over BH increases in my mind. I did sheep ritoky's reads because everyone was claiming that he was town, but rereading the thread i don't really see where all of that was coming from.

##Vote: 27NinjaBunnies

On September 01 2014 06:56 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Also reading back on bunnies filter it seemed like she was like oh, i know ritoky is mafia, im going to vote on him to get me some points later. Oh everyone thinks hes town? time to vote for someone else. Thats how i interpreted that response

On September 01 2014 07:01 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I just think your playing different then how you played in our first game together, granted that it was like 3 months ago

On September 01 2014 07:04 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I think your scum vOv,

you also tried to first appeal to my emotions, which i don't think you would usually do


lots of super scum reads on bunnies, so many scum reads! Wagon atm: Bunnies .....vote now on: bunnies




On September 01 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I'm rethinking my position on bunnies, Like you noted above, bunnies does vote for BH over BSnacks, at a time when the votes were pretty close.


^^^^ toad case THAT ALSO RELATES TO LILWADE WTF WADE ALSO VOTES BH OVER BSNACKS so bs reason to switch. Current wagon at time: bunnies with sentiment to wade ..... current vote: bunnies

On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot.


I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum


current wagon: just onto lilwade now
On September 02 2014 01:49 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Going to work and i probably wont be able to check my phone. Gonna stick to my gut read on bunnies T.T

On September 02 2014 01:50 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Ah screw it lilwade it is

current wagon: lilwade.... current vote: now conveniently lilwade

so he spends all this time on bunnies but then the wagon switches to town lilwade and all his scum reads totally fall out of the window and his reason to switch is apathy's convincing case which applied to wade too, then WITH 5 MINUTES TO GO SWITCHES BACK TO BUNNIES????????? Not only that but in the post that I keep referring to as the slip he says "i'm wary because mafia are voting their partner" when 3 people in our cell were voting bunnies. The wagon was on bunnies at this time and lilwade hadn't flipped town yet so there is absolutely NO way that anyone knows if mafia are voting for their partner or for a towny. He should have been EVEN MORE WARY when the wagon speedy went to unanimous wade but he WAS NOT AT ALL.

He also tries to justify his calling bunnies mafia before wade even flipped town here:

On September 03 2014 07:55 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
are you actually a dumbass HF? If all people from the cell vote for bunnies, or course one mafia is voting on their partner. The fact is bunnies was probably mafia, as no one voted for apathy. Either we just got rolled or bunnies was mafia. Same thing with ritoky. You also did the same thing iirc, you voted on your partner and then used some dumb excuse to switch your vote to a town






When you piece together the above with:

On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.


If you see someone trying to question the hell out of your scum read then why would this be questionable at all??? If he has a town read on wave, like I did, then who else does he think I would be calling scum in our group? Some magical non-being? Either way, wade flips town, mm1 doesn't even rethink over this read at all but instead says "hm that guy who tried to bury probable MAFIA must also be MAFIA with her". No. Who does that?!

Instead, out of the blue it's:

On September 03 2014 07:24 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I just hope we lynch correctly today so we can lynch HF tomorrow


kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk


also, sarcastic comments about how this day is productive but then afking, + other tidbits which i cba to talk about
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 01:00 GMT
#1667
On September 03 2014 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.

Ok here's the post?
I guess if you take the first sentence and ignore mindset then yes, you're right.
Except he also says it's because you've been calling him scum since the beginning of the game (which you were...though I think I was too lol), and there's that 'noob omgus' aura that MM1 seems to exude (though I don't and can't take that into account).

Fuck I actually though my cell was gonna be hard because I was going to have to scream and yell at HF

Let's go, input from other people on this. I don't think I have any idea who anyone else thinks is scum from our group. Even Toad's final reads post didn't conclusively finger anyone (though he put HF as lowest I think)?


he even acknowledges you have also been calling him scum in his slip post


On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot.


I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum



Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 01:14 GMT
#1668
is nrhf haru?
Not really holyflare
Profile Joined August 2014
Japan56 Posts
September 03 2014 01:44 GMT
#1669
On September 03 2014 10:14 Holyflare wrote:
is nrhf haru?


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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 02:05 GMT
#1670
Yeh ok haru is town then
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 03:13 GMT
#1671
I was trying to find a haruhi gif that wouldn't make it suuuuuper super obvious but still kinda obvious
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 03:21 GMT
#1672
On September 03 2014 09:57 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 11:36 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
I'm rethinking my position on bunnies, Like you noted above, bunnies does vote for BH over BSnacks, at a time when the votes were pretty close.


^^^^ toad case THAT ALSO RELATES TO LILWADE WTF WADE ALSO VOTES BH OVER BSNACKS so bs reason to switch. Current wagon at time: bunnies with sentiment to wade ..... current vote: bunnies


Eh, I don't really agree with this one. I was looking at the votes for that vote and my thoughts were basically-

Bunnies swapped to Blazinghand making the vote 6batsnacks vs. 5 blazinghand. If blazinghand is scum, this looks like a risky move for bunnies since it brings it fairly close to him getting lynched.

When lilwade voted for Blazinghand it made the split 8 (Batsnacks) vs 5 (Blazinghand).

Between the two the votes looked better for bunnies as town than for lilwade since her vote brought it quite a bit closer (assuming BH scum).
Amiko
Profile Joined February 2014
United States1725 Posts
September 03 2014 03:23 GMT
#1673
I don't disagree with the rest of your comments, I think the switch back to bunnies felt inadequately explained

(though I feel like complaining about the day applies a little to you too bud)
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 03 2014 04:11 GMT
#1674
On September 03 2014 12:13 Amiko wrote:
I was trying to find a haruhi gif that wouldn't make it suuuuuper super obvious but still kinda obvious

I don't know what that is but hai haru
On September 03 2014 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 09:37 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 01 2014 07:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
The only thing im scared about atm, is that HF is also trying to bury you and i think he could be mafia in my group. Due to the fact that he's been saying that everything i've said is scummy since my intro post.

Ok here's the post?
I guess if you take the first sentence and ignore mindset then yes, you're right.
Except he also says it's because you've been calling him scum since the beginning of the game (which you were...though I think I was too lol), and there's that 'noob omgus' aura that MM1 seems to exude (though I don't and can't take that into account).

Fuck I actually though my cell was gonna be hard because I was going to have to scream and yell at HF

Let's go, input from other people on this. I don't think I have any idea who anyone else thinks is scum from our group. Even Toad's final reads post didn't conclusively finger anyone (though he put HF as lowest I think)?


he even acknowledges you have also been calling him scum in his slip post


Show nested quote +
On September 01 2014 16:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
Im just wary that we know at least one mafia is voting on their partner. I dont like wades recent response but i still bunnies is pretty scummy. As for voting only in this thread, i just forgot.


I find ot funny that both you and hf think im scum




Actually I forgot about this.
Apparently he's acknowledged that I've called him scum before but magically forgot when he needed to throw suspicion on you for the same reasons.

That's baaaaad MM1
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 03 2014 05:32 GMT
#1675
On September 03 2014 09:23 Amiko wrote:
@Oats:
Since you are sheeping marv on the off chance we get to day 5 I'll be asking you to vote on marv and letting me hammer. So let's talk till you realize the error of your ways.

- Did that question about me being happy early game have any significance?

- What do you think of the conversations between you and marv while blazinghand was up for lynch?
I didn't see an answer from marv to your question as to whether whether Blazinghand gave up as scum, but not too much else to say.

- As I see it, you thought I was suspicious on D2 based on thinking that although I had decided to vote Blazinghand, I hadn't voted. I don't understand this because (1) I think it's fairly obvious I was asking questions regarding the other players before you ever raised that point and (2) I don't real see why voting early or late seems suspicious, anyway. I guess a mafia player in Cell 4/5 could vote at the last minute to get a mislynch (and then just hope to get two more before that Cell ever comes up), but I don't see anyone as having done that so otherwise it seems null to me.

- If you think voting early or late is a scumtell, why is that any more valid than BH's slip pre-game and during-game? It seems to me the other 'slip' would be more reliable.

- If you think voting late is a scumtell, why aren't you reading any other players who voted late as scummy?



(Don't you wish Cell C was 3rd now? :D)


er lets do this one line at a time.

No, and I dont know why marv asked me to explain it. Possible filler.

marv had a whole lotta meta reasons why blazinghand was scum but never wrote it out fully intending to convince people, just sat back and sniped at whoever called bh town.

Its not about voting late as in 1 min before the deadline. Its about not making a clear stand so its not so suspicious when your team decides on a change in direction. Town dont give a shit about their own voting patterns so they vote willynilly.
Scum more careful with their votes.
GENERALLY.


After that bit and the last few days, your questions have gotten a lot better and there is more direction rather than questions for the sake of questions.

No gg, No skill.
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 06:33 GMT
#1676
@WaveofShadow

look at how many times HF, has called me scum, or tried to throw scum on me. I do admit to saying that both of you called me scum, but you can even see that i misread. If you look at your post, you never said i was actually scum. I'll apologize for misreading but it wasn't a slip.

Also look at bunnies response to me switching my vote off of her.


as a side note: i'm pretty happy with this groups lynch. The fact that everyone in our cell is actually playing probably means we are hitting scum today. I was gonna say (the fact that HF is posting a lot) but i'm trying to avoid the tunnel.
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
MysteryMeat1
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States3292 Posts
September 03 2014 06:38 GMT
#1677
As for the case of bunnies HF, i never once tried to bury lilwade. I made my case on bunnies, and never pushed once on lilwade, if you think that i had any effect or that the lynch would have been different if i had kept my votes on bunnies your wrong.

@oats: Do you think my late vote switching, is a town or scum tell?
"Cause ya know, Style before victory." -The greatest mafia player alive
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 03 2014 06:43 GMT
#1678
On September 03 2014 15:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
As for the case of bunnies HF, i never once tried to bury lilwade. I made my case on bunnies, and never pushed once on lilwade, if you think that i had any effect or that the lynch would have been different if i had kept my votes on bunnies your wrong.

@oats: Do you think my late vote switching, is a town or scum tell?

Its a town tell. scum are fine sitting on a mislynch
No gg, No skill.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
September 03 2014 08:36 GMT
#1679
On September 03 2014 15:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2014 15:38 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
As for the case of bunnies HF, i never once tried to bury lilwade. I made my case on bunnies, and never pushed once on lilwade, if you think that i had any effect or that the lynch would have been different if i had kept my votes on bunnies your wrong.

@oats: Do you think my late vote switching, is a town or scum tell?

Its a town tell. scum are fine sitting on a mislynch


The opposite because only scum feel the need to switch their votes onto a different wagon when it is already unanimous 5 minutes before deadline when it has absolutely 0 effect
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
September 03 2014 09:59 GMT
#1680
nah its dumb for scum to do that, why would they intentionally draw attention to themselves?
No gg, No skill.
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